Joe Schmoe

Just an FYI, Roku is something someone who does not wish to use Cable TV would use. There is no Cable TV subscription needed to use Roku. In fact for some older ones it's simpler to use than a computer.

I would appreciate the file, please.

Exactly! This is the point I was trying to make. We don't know for sure either way. We only know for sure that we can rely on Jehovah to make it right.

Ok. But I would be curious how you reconcile the tropical plants that have been discovered under the ice in the arctic. [emoji6] Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Just to throw a wrench into the discussion. I don't dispute global warming. I also don't dispute mankind ruining the earth. However global warming cannot be conclusively tied to humans. Explain how tropical plants have been found underneath the deep sheet ice on land in the arctic. Was man overheating the earth thousands of years ago pre-industrialization? For all we know this is merely another cycle in earth's climate system. Fact: Global Warming is being politicized for political gain. Fact: No matter what so-called experts (who always have a bias) claim, global warming has not been conclusively tied to human activity. Even though experts say it has been, remember that these are the same folks that beat their chests proclaiming evolution is a fact, when it too has not been conclusively proven. These scientists funding is directly related to bias and manipulating the data one way or another. In fact their has been a lot of uproar lately in scientific circles because recently experts have been showing how easy it is to manipulate the data to get funding for studies and research. Even the experts are getting tired of it. Take it all with a grain of salt. The only for sure thing is that we know the season we're in, and we know only Jehovah will make everything right, whatever the issue. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

I'm seeing a lot of mention of "copyright" in this thread. Brothers, just a heads up, but... The JW.org logo is not copyrighted! You cannot copyright names, titles, slogans or short phrases. This includes logos. Source: http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html#title That's right. There is a big difference between copyrights and trademarks. Logos are typically trademarked, not copyrighted. The only rare possibility to copyright a logo is if it's sufficiently unique and artistic (and the JW.org logo has already been deemed to not be unique and artistic enough even for a trademark, in fact the original application for the JW.org logo through the US Patent and Trademark office was denied for that very reason [US Serial Registration Number: 85896124], though upon revision it was eventually approved for trademark which is still not the same as a copyright). Even then there is no legal basis for preventing someone from wearing/using/promoting a logo unless they're trying to falsely use the logo to act as a representative or agent of the business/organization the logo belongs to. For a very basic example....Think of Nike shoes. Or Nike branded shirts. cop·y·right ˈkäpēˌrīt/ noun 1. the exclusive legal right, given to an originator or an assignee to print, publish, perform, film, or record literary, artistic, or musical material, and to authorize others to do the same. trade·mark ˈtrādˌmärk/ noun 1. a symbol, word, or words legally registered or established by use as representing a company or product. synonyms: logo, brand, emblem, sign, mark, stamp, symbol, badge, crest, monogram, colophon;More I hope this sheds some light on the matter.

This is exactly the right way to do it.

I'm with you on this. My personal feeling on the matter is that the new Terms of Use are overly broad and if strictly held would even prohibit their own RSS feed, because you would be using a non JW.org platform to view the content. Also the downloading of the publications for use in our e-reader apps would technically be prohibited too.Overall I think the gist of it is that they only want us getting our stuff from the official source only. I think they're mostly trying to discourage all the "jw" type apps (bible, sing book, WT library) that are being released on the app stores.

Hey I understand where some of you are coming from thinking it's not in violation of the Terms of Use. I once felt the same way, but when they changed the Terms lately I had to take a second look. I loved having apps like this. But the Terms of Use are very clear. They only want us getting/using the content ON jw.org and no where else whether an application, social media, or other means. Also the argument that "The Branch would have had it removed by now" doesn't fly. I work directly in that area and have worked on apps that show up in the play store. Removing infringing apps is not "easy". There are countless examples of other apps that definitely infring against the jw.org terms of use and have also not been removed. Let me just end by saying...I'm not trying to stir up contention here. I like a good chunk of you really like the idea of this app in the OP. I keep hoping that the brothers keep adding useful functionality to behave similarly.

If one reads the latest Terms of Use on the jw.org website, it would seem this app is in violation of that. Anyone who uses/downloads such an app would be sharing in that infringement. Just saying....

I would definitely be interested in hearing updates about the appeals process. I really hope that the organization is vindicated.

What all is that about?

This one is a great one we're considering for our children. My brother and his wife used them. From what I have heard the guy who started it was a Circuit Overseer at one point, and allows/includes spiritual learning in line with our beliefs for actual school credit. In other words, if your high school child wants to go out in field service, it's encouraged. Ozbeck Educational Services I've also known close friends that completed American School and that also has been a good option for a lot of Witnesses that I know.

Hello Cindy, I don't have much to add to this thread, but I have to say I love your sense of humor during this ordeal. Typically people get all stressed out and depressed. In your few posts you've actually made me laugh in a good way! I only hope I can always keep my chin up like you seem to. It's encouraging to see other fellow brothers and sisters stay happy even when the situation is bad. Thanks for that!

Interesting thought just popped into mind. So they tax religion finally, maybe even toss in some legislation divorcing church from state. Imagine a speech along the lines of: 'We've finally put religion in it's proper place, no longer can they have such influence on our politics or economic affairs. We finally have TRUE peace and securi...(EXPLOSION of Armageddon)'. Then again, it may not happen like this at all...There's been talk of peace and security off and on for decades. All we know is that we're waiting for Babylon The Great to get it's death blow.