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In our continuing effort to keep JWTalk a safe, friendly, and encouraging forum for Jehovah's people to interact online, the Moderators have chosen to welcome both @Stormswift (Mandi) and @hatcheckgirl (Lucy) to the Moderator team.

Noooo! The lunatics have taken over the asylum! We're very happy to have you both join the team.

I echo Lucy's words thanks to all the team for this - I'm chuffed too ... or stoked.

Awesome, more lady mods.

Two very level headed sisters. Accept my feline felicitations! I think, it seems like a rather stressful job... o_o

Exciting. I’m so grateful to be a part of this big, wonderful family. With two more to keep us rounded up. Two lovely additions, I might add. I thank you for taking on the responsibility!

I was just looking at the time zones....thx. KING BOB!

Ok, sooo, can we, like, talk about this for a minute? I mean, it seems to be a bit lopsided, you know, looks like 'down unduh' is going to be well represented, what about us 'upper' continent dwellers? Are we going to be held to some other, ahem, 'lower' standards than we have enjoyed so far? I don't know, I've heard things....scary things....I dunno---.... (Love you guys, I feel good about knowing you two are there, I trust you. ..thanks for doing this. )

Well, the reason why we took them on is that we needed someone to understand the posts with Aussie accent. G'day!

Thank you guys! I'm chuffed, (and that is a good thing).

Johan, can you really see Jehovah's organization referring to a homosexual couple as "husband and wife"? Ever?

I would not like my husband to be referred to as my partner - he's more than that. To me it's demeaning the sanctity of marriage ... interesting topic to consider. I think as individuals we should all sort out what our consciences are urging us to do, before the situation arises.

You mean we can furnish this place? I henceforth put forth this New Zealand style house for consideration.

I've been on other boards where the duties were divided by forum. So far here it works fine with everyone having equal input everywhere. Administrators additional duties are housekeeping. We approve new applications for membership and have access to the admin email. We also discuss forum redesign, restructure, adding or removing forums before presenting the ideas to the other moderators. Other than that, we're all share equal function.

No, it's going to be nice. We're all on the same team!

Hooray and congratulations

Husband and wife expressions reflect not only the manner of speaking but Jehovah sanctity of marriage Godless society under the influence of Satan and his demons are pushing "neutral gender" agenda twisting original state for marriage. I will never ever go along with them .. NEVER. I kindly, but strongly disagree with your views. No offense my dear brother

If a kid on a plane is a bit lively then perhaps ‘handler’ would be appropriate.

Music to my ears...Mandi and Lucy, such fine examples, I always look forward to their encouraging and well thought out comments ! Nice addition, Thanks Bob ! Hopefully soon Bro. Neil too...

The sun never sets on the jwtalk.net moderator team

Administratiors and moderators ALL moderate the forum, no assigned tasks. Except Bob who is king.

That means that boys administer better while girls moderate better. And then there's the exception that confirms the rule. Now try and translate that in gender-neutral language.

6 Male Administrators 5 Female Moderators 1 Male Moderator

Not sure about the level headed on my part ... but I can go with that for now. Thanks x

Wow!! Great news!!

I love it! GOOOOOOD choice!

The Scandinavian editions are simply called “The New World Translation of the Bible”.

It's the same thing though Johan being asked to use or NOT use certain terms is contrary to Jehovah's standards - and his standards don't change. The term husband and wife same sex are often used in court settings where same sex marriage has become legal in that state or country.

What I love about this site is the diversity of perspectives that add so much flavour to our topics. However, respectfully, I draw a line when factions of Satan's system tell me how to season my speech - when I've spent a lifetime allowing myself to be molded and tweaked according to Jehovah's standards. So until terms change via Jehovah's channel I will adhere to my current way of speaking. Sorry to disagree with you, but in good conscience I can't agree with change unless Jehovah tells me too.

Yes they are going to offend a wider group than the ones they are trying not to offend. I just don't get it.

Excuse me Mr. Carlos - I have a NZ accent ... while national distinction is not an issue as I respect our aussie speaking brothers and sisters very much - I overlook their rougher than kiwi accents because I love them.

Congratulations! Yes, more spiritually strong ones to watch over us and keep it clean and safe. Wonderful.

Two new sensible spiritually minded Sisters to moderate our sometimes immoderate and nonsensical postings. We wish you all the best in your Moderator endeavors!!!

I had a workmate who is gay and got married with his boyfriend. My colleagues often referred to that man as "his husband" and from a legal viewpoint that usage is correct: They are legally married and therefore husband and husband. Yet I never called that man his husband. I called him his partner, because partner is accurate and respectful at the same time. I could not call him his husband in a good conscience because even if they are legally married in the eyes of Caesar, they are not in Jehovah's eyes. So we can accommodate to social realities to a degree, but there are lines I would not cross. Now if I refer to my wife, I would never say she's "my partner". That would be like saying: "She's an acquaintance that lives in the same house with me." Of course she's my partner but she's much more than that. If the words husband and wife disappeared from our language, I guess we would have to use whatever words are understood by everybody. But those terms are still safe and sound and very much alive, so I wouldn't be concerned with that.

Congratulations, precious spiritual sisters! I always enjoy your posts and the fine example you display. Very well deserved!

I suppose if this system lasts another 100 years where this might be the case - there will likely be bigger issues to deal with.

Wonderful news: We have some new moderators on the forum! Big congratulations -You know who you are!

And, yet, that was not how the topic began. Aussie airline isn't banning the use of gender words when gender neutral words clarify the meaning. In fact, the exact opposite is being done by this Aussie airline rule. Referring to a child's parent when the mother is meant does not clarify the conversation. Likewise when referring to a parent's child when their son is the topic does not clarify the conversation.

I am quite surprised with your view.

Let's hope it just stays a threat and not a reality.

Agreed Brother Johan, if it's accepted by the Organization, otherwise even with our speech we can quickly find ourselves driving around those dark alleys of Satan's system ... I remember a part at the last convention ... where we need to adhere to the morality of Jehovah's standards - setting our moral compass if you like according to what comes through the scriptures and his channel. Speech can quickly deteriorate into something that means something totally different as you pointed out with "Fader" - and we can be very skillful in being both empathetic and understood by those in our community - not by changing our 'lingo' necessarily to be made understood, but by sticking to Jehovah's speech (the truth) and keeping it simple and using clear illustrations rather than perhaps condoning a lifestyle contrary to Jehovah's morals/standards by bringing our speech down to a level that is accepting of this world's declining morals. (That's not to be confused with being humble and speaking to all kinds as we would as a servant of Jehovah - just speech like clothing that defines certain lifestyles we don't agree with). The other point is - if Jehovah is drawing someone - there has to be a clear distinction between his people (and their dress and speech) and that of the world - or they may not see the difference.

There is more to married life than working and providing the necessary things. The marriage vow involves certain responsibilities that the man and the woman must live up to. The Bible outlines these. As the text says: For success in marriage, each mate must accept personal responsibility and obey Jehovah. We are all individually accountable for our actions whether we are married or not.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baoding_balls?wprov=sfla1 I always thought that they where for meditation. They have the ying yang symbol too. Deals with Taoism. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin_and_yang?wprov=sfla1

Please let me add how appreciative I am of glancing into all your lives. We are sort of insulated from such on the level we are privileged here. It means so very much to me.

*groan* It could be because the current CEO of Qantas is gay, maybe? I can see this being rolled out in govt departments too. It’s offensive to call out our customers by their title, eg Mr or Mrs, while they wait to be served. Don’t actually know why.

What are you supposed to say instead of mum and dad?? Guardian?

Your mom definitely sounds like a great example for all of us. I, too, was very touched by the video of the woman dancing. Absolutely love hearing stories like this along with the stories of people returning to the truth after many years. This gives me energy and makes me feel like I can endure.. then here comes something that knocks me to my knees once again, making feel the need to focus on how the end can't be far off. With me, it is truly a back and forth thing.. takes A LOT of prayer, personal study, and staying busy helping others in order to endure. I really would like to thank you all for being so kind and understanding about this, despite the fact that everyone sees this from a different perspective. Add this to the gigantic list of things that I love about Jehovah's people.

Yes, it is our last memorial this year. We just need to wait and see if there is another one next year.

As I watch my mom, now 71, slowly be crippled with arthritis and her legs bo and toes twist I feel the same way "Yes, I am coming quickly.'" "Amen! Come, Lord Jesus." Then, a few nights ago, I was at mom's and we we're talking about this and she says, " I saw the video - the one they played at this week's CL&M meeting - and watched that lady dance as she learned about the resurrection and that she'd she her husband again. And I think, I can wait a little longer. When I hurt, I am just going to remember her dancing. ". I just love that little mom of mine. I too am working on remembering the dancing. And trusting that Jah knows the best time that helps the most people and He can fix anything. So, I can wait patiently and stay busy.

Well I have one right by my door as I leave, but it's not complete. Soo, thus far I have food, water, first aid kit, toiletries such as a bar of soap, tooth brush, tooth paste, deodorant, mouthwash, baby wipes (for cleansing in case there's no water), flashlight, portable radio, whistle, Bible. I need copies of papers, dollars, keys made, meds. (I have a feeling I left something out here). Oh! A sister had said that another sister bought a inflatable mattress, and at first I thought that was ridiculous. But now after thinking about it I think that's a very good idea because who wants to sleep on a floor? I'm buying one. Oh and a blanket, jeans, underwear, bra, sneakers comfortable shoes, socks, a jacket, hat, and a simple dress or skirt and blouse to attend meetings and field service while in a shelter or fall out location, and literature. And I might purchase just a very few baby supplies for sisters such as formula, baby food, diapers. You never know. They might in their haste to get away at the authorities' urging, forget such things or maybe not have enough. Sooo this means then that another bag, a large book bag to throw over the back might suffice. So in addition to the rolling bag by the door, I have one to carry on the back. I'm planning to fill that with clothes. There's an old metal shopping cart I have (makes a lot of noise but who cares when you're trying to run for your life from natural disasters?). The bottom will hold the inflatable mattress, then the one rolling bag, then maybe the one to carry on your back. Whew!! Sure hope all of the above won't be needed, I'm tired already! Lol.