Lloyd777

There's no YouTube app directly from YouTube..............yet........as of today, 03/30/24. But there is an app that works well called "Juno For YouTube" that has a one-time fee of $5.00. Money well spent, though I'm not able to control it as easily as I might like. But that may just be my ineptitude in using the AVP. I do have a "YouTube Premium" account that I can sign into on this "Juno For YouTube" app. It's not exactly the sames, but it is close, and you can make the videos go close to full screen. Actually, totally full screen doesn't seem to even be possible on the AVP, especially when you have the screen expanded to something greater than what you'd get in a true movie theater. To see some of the details of how the app works, there is a website by the creator of the app (I think) that describes some of its features here: https://christianselig.com/2024/02/introducing-juno/

03/28/24 I immediately got the H1N1 flu that lasted for 3 weeks the day after I got the Apple Vision Pro. Perhaps that should have told me something? Anyway, do you want the good news or the bad news first? Good news: If you watch a lot of movies or even if you just like having a huge screen for watching JW videos, like even the "Morning Worship" talks (which I love), and you like the "Was It Designed" videos (who doesn't?) or any of our videos for that matter, the AVP is great. I can't wait to see the "Jesus" video on this thing when it is released! The AVP is like having a large theater room in this relatively small device, and comparatively cheap compared to the cost of a high-end theater room. It's like being on the front row at a convention, so your attention is greatly increased, though you'd be hard pressed to take notes, unless you are a good typist, which I am not. But with such astounding clarity and with such a gigantic view, you will likely get more from what you see and hear. The sound is pretty fantastic too, though you won't be able to actually feel the bass as well as if you have a couple of quality sub-woofers on your stereo system. But what is called "spatial sound" coming from the AVP is pretty fantastic. More good news is that many of the apps that work well on an iPad, will also work pretty well on the AVP, and that includes JW Library! There is not a JW Library app created by the brothers specifically for the AVP, but there is the app that was designed for the iPad that works fairly well on the AVP. That was huge news to me since JW Library is where I spend a lot of my time. The 3d pics and videos you can take with the AVP or even with an iPhone 15 or better, are stunning! Man oh man I wish I had this when my kids and grandkids were young! The 3d stuff is so good it'll make you cry. The AVP has several other WOW factors, but I'm limiting this post to mostly what I think might be the most interesting for our JW community. Bad news: I'm gonna start off with the worst thing. If you have a wife/husband or family, the AVP will most likely distance you from them. Apple tried hard to reduce the isolation factor by allowing someone to see your face (or at least a representation of your face) when someone approaches. But that doesn't quite do it. Sure, if you're single there won't be a problem and the AVP may be perfect for you. But it does distance you from those in your household, and that's not an insignificant thing to consider. Imagine watching a video or movie that you and your wife/husband or family might like watching together. That ain't happening if you are separated from them when you're inside the AVP world. But I must say, on the other hand, that if your wife/husband or family is watching something you can't stand, then the AVP can be a "way out." For instance, I have trouble buying into sci-fi or superhero movies, which my wife enjoys. I just fall asleep. I'd rather be watching some documentary or comedy or JW Library video. But even then, you can see how the AVP could take on the role of isolator. Beware of that! Other bad news: It's heavy and can press in rather heavily on your face. The included head strap can be used in place of the strap that goes back around your head, but there still can be a bit of discomfort. It's not as functional to use with JW Library as one might wish. I'm regularly making notes and highlighting answers in JW Library (on my iPad). So far, that's not so easy with the AVP. With the exception of watching videos or listening to this or that, I much prefer my iPad to the AVP. It may be that I just haven't mastered highlighting answers with the AVP yet (which involves focusing on what you want to highlight and then "clicking" (by bringing your thumb and forefinger together), but using the Apple Pencil on an iPad seems much quicker and more accurate. Improvements from Apple may be forthcoming. In fact I was waiting for an Apple update before I wrote this post, but that update may not happen for several months now. So, I was happy to see JW Library available for the AVP, but disappointed that I couldn't use it as easily as I do with an iPad. No YouTube app yet, though there is word out that that is on the way, and there is a substitute as well. (Wanna watch some really cool YouTube videos? Watch all 8 episodes of "Secrets of the Cell with Michael Behe." He's the professor who wrote "Darwin's Black Box," spoken of initially in the May 8, 1997 Awake!) The AVP is designed for just one person to use. I wear gas-permeable contacts, and the AVP won't work with those. So I have to take out my contacts and had to buy and use the Leica prescription lenses that install into the AVP. That really wasn't a problem for me since I often wear my glasses around the house in preference to my contacts. But no one else in my house has the same prescription as I do, so the AVP only works well for me. Yes, there is a guest mode, but setting up in Guest Mode isn't so easy and if you are in Guest Mode and take off the AVP, all your "Guest Mode" settings disappear. So if, for instance, you want your wife and/or kids to also be able to use the AVP, you'll have to buy another one or two or three..... ($3,500+ each). The power supply only lasts 2 hours. Not really a problem for me since I mostly use the AVP at my desk and the power supply can be plugged in to a charger at all times. But if you're in a plane, watching a 2+ hour movie movie, you'll likely run out of power before the movie is over. There are however portable power supplies that one can buy to extend the time you can watch your movie or event on the go. Final sum up: Would I buy it again (provided I had the extra cash)? Yes, in a heartbeat! But I'm old and like fidgeting around with new technology. But the stunning video in itself is, for me, well worth the price. And if I still had kids, the 3d pics and vids that I'd be able to take would just be another important reason that I'd want this device. Downsides and a few problems? Sure, especially the possibility of isolating yourself from the fam. But for me, heavily outweighed by the positives, and I always keep a close eye on the wife and our relationship. See, I got a thing for her, so...................

Obviously, you are a much wiser and patient man than I!

Up until just a few months ago, I felt the exact same way you do. Everything I owned was either android or windows. No Apple products at all……until I found out that JW Library was optimized for the iPad, and has no lag even with absolutely everything in English downloaded into JW Library, included all the videos (except 1) downloaded in 720p. Also no lag in the latest iPhones with everything downloaded! Price is a bear though, isn’t it? Still, I’ve found that in this particular case, one does get what one pays for, at least at this point of time. So I’m taking a chance on the AVP. On the other hand, as they say, a fool and his money are soon parted. And I may prove to be just that fool. We’ll see.

It hit me the same way when I first saw it, not to mention the fact that with 1TB of storage, an extra battery, a carrying case, the latest charger and charging cord, corrective Zeiss lenses, and taxes it cost me over $4,800.00!! And I may find that I’ll also need the $100 Apple keyboard. However, for me personally, an old dude who seldom even uses his car, I compared the cost of a vehicle to the cost of the AVP, and realized that since I spend much, much more time at home than in my car, comparatively speaking, the AVP is much cheaper, especially when compared to some of the SUV’s in out parking lot. Ever priced a loaded Denali? Woe! Not judging anyone, but I thought that for me, in the life I’m rather forced into by age, this might be worth a shot. There may be down sides that I’m unaware of, making it a waste of funds. But, we’ll see. Apple advertising can be compelling, but I’ll post the raw truth as I see it when I’ve “driven” it for a while, though mine doesn’t arrive till the last part of February, 2024. And I certainly don’t want to try and move someone who doesn’t have the funds to buy in. Being debt free is much more valuable than any material thing in my opinion. Oops, I’ve run off at the mouth again. Sorry about that!

I'm not a "gotta have the latest gadget" kinda guy.....well, I don't think so. But the Apple Vision Pro looks quite interesting. I'm buying. Anyone else? If not, I'll report back and let folks know how it is and whether it's useful in any "theocratic" or any spiritual way. (Rationalization: I'm getting darn old, can't play sports like I used to, have trouble walking upright, or even waking much farther than to my car and back. So, though I do NOT play video games (don't get me started on that!), I do tend to look for stuff I can do in my study/library. So I want to test this out. It does look mighty cool!)

To Desert Dan: Thanks for turning me on to the Humane AI Pin! I gotta say that I'm impressed and most willing to try it out. One can't help but wonder if the foreign language translation part would work well at the door.

Right, as I said in my original post: "Now if you don't download and keep much on your devices, I'm sure JW Library will work fine on both Android and Windows. But being a bit of a perfectionist and wanting most everything that JW Library has (over 312 GB worth) on each of my 2 devices, as well as my notes, highlighting, and whatever I might import, then Apple is the best choice [for me], yes even with their rather infuriatingly closed ecosystem." I'm happy that folks are satisfied with their devices, whatever platform one uses. But if, and please note that I said IF, one wants ALL the material in JW Library on your device (and more) then I'll suggest that, based on my experience and testing, that the Apple products work best for me. But I would also suggest that one do what works best for him/her. In fact, a down side to using Apple products that I miss is that, using Windows desktop computers with multiple screens, I can have JW Library and Watchtower Library, and Watchtower Online Library all open and easily available at one time. Not so easy with an iPad, though I am working on that. And Watchtower Library (what used to be the CD) just isn't made for Apple at all. But keep in mind also that with "Playlists," one can add your own videos and audio to JW Library, requiring additional space depending on just how one has things set up. I'm not a rich man, but I'll always choose the best products I can possibly afford that run what the brothers provide, namely JW Library, Watchtower Library, Watchtower Online Library, etc versus a fancier car or even a fancier house. A $1500 phone or $3000 iPad sounds like a lot, but compared to a $100,000 Cadillac Escalade, maybe it doesn't seem so drastic. We put our funds into what we believe to be most important to us individually, right? I do appreciate the detailed input here from so many. I read each post and put your various experiences into my thinking. As one of actor Martin Mull's character once said, "It's been a slice!"

I spent the money and time on the iPad M2 and the iPhone 15 and downloaded all 312+ GB of JW Library material to both of them to find that there was absolutely no lag when opening the JW Library app or moving around within the app. Timing it, I can't even say the word "one" before the app fully opens! And I know for a fact that with my "Samsung Note 20 Ultra 5G" with the same amount of material downloaded, that the JW Library app takes 60 seconds to open and also lags considerably when moving around within the app. So, for instance, when a brother giving a talk asks us to look at a Bible verse, because of the lag, there is not enough time to get to the verse before he's read it and moved on. Thus, I have become quite disenchanted with Android as far as using JW Library goes within that ecosystem, and while Windows doesn't lag as much, it still does lag some. I leave it to someone else to buy the latest Surface Pro or whatever other Windows product one may choose to buy or build, to also take the 2 days or so it takes to download all 312GB+ of the JW Library and prove that there is no lag. At this point, like it was proven on Seinfeld that the yogurt had fat, I'm gonna guess that even the latest Android and Windows products will lag. But who knows? Frankly, I'm gonna guess that Apple is doing something within their products that eliminate the lag, and that's it is not only a simple matter of having faster chips or "innards." Why? Because no matter how little or how much of JW Library that one downloads within the Apple products that I tested, there is zero change in how long the app takes to open or move within the app. But I have not found one person who can definitively tell me exactly what is going on.

10/17/23 I gonna hate to have to admit it, because I've been "Android" for many years, but if one uses JW Library mostly on one's phone or an iPad/tablet or even a Windows laptop or computer, and one is looking for speed and no lag from JW Library, Apple wins hands down (except on price!). The story: I noticed that JW Library was taking longer and longer to open on my Samsung Android Note phone (60 seconds to just open!), and even starting to take a while on my computer. The more I added to the JW Library app, the slower it opened and the slower it took to go, for instance, from a video to the Insight Book. Then I tried an Apple iPad, the M2 Pro, 2022, 6th generation. Guess what? No lag!!! Everything opened and switched instantly. Then I tried JW Library on the brand new iPhone 15 Pro Max. And no lag there either! Opens instantly, switching is instant as well. And that was with almost everything that JW Library has downloaded onto both my iPad and also onto this new iPhone, including all the videos in 720p and all the audio. Now if you don't download and keep much on your devices, I'm sure JW Library will work fine on both Android and Windows. But being a bit of a perfectionist and wanting most everything that JW Library has (over 312 GB worth) on each of my 2 devices, as well as my notes, highlighting, and whatever I might import, then Apple is the best choice, yes even with their rather infuriatingly closed ecosystem. Well, that's my summation, and I'm sticking to it. DANGER: Downloading anything in JW Library over 2 GB at a time, can cause JW Library to crash, and it is then non-recoverable. And, unless I've missed something, there is only one item in JW Library that is over 2 GB long that is available for download, and it is the "2014 Annual Meeting Program" that is 4hrs, 7 minutes, and 5 seconds long. If downloaded in 720p, that's a 2.9 GB download, and you can say goodbye to all your JW Library files! So if you must have that particular video, only download it in 480p, which is 1.9 GB, and you'll be safe.

I hope so! -Lloyd

I had hoped to be able to report that I had been able to download virtually everything that JW Library has available onto my iPad so that I would be crowned "King Downloader," and thus be allowed to plunder and pillage neighboring towns. Well, I have been mostly successful! Further, with virtually everything downloaded, including all videos, there is zero lag in opening up JW Library or switching from one thing to another, like going from a Watchtower to the Bible, or book, or to anything. It's all seamless on this iPad Pro M2 2022. I asked Bard, "Why is the Apple iPad so much faster than Samsung tablets?" BARD gave a darn good answer that you may want to check out. (BARD is free of course) And I'm not an Apple fan boy, but "facts is facts," and I've certainly been impressed by how fast this iPad is, especially as opposed to the lagging one encounters with Android and Windows offerings....that I have used. (Next up is a test of the latest Apple iPhone.....when it is released) But what kept me from shooting off fireworks was the fact that now, some of my notes, or at least, parts of some of them seem to have disappeared. For instance, in the May 22, 2005 Awake!, there is an article about "libraries," which is a favorite topic of mine. (I should have been a librarian) Anyway, on page 20 of that Awake!, I had highlighted the name of a book, "A History Of Libraries In The Western Wold," and added a note with the tag, "Lloyd's Library." But when I click on the square of the left hand side of the JW Library page for that Awake!, no note appears on the right hand side of the page like it used to. Odd hunh? And I tested that out on both Windows JW Library, and IOS JW Library. Anyway, I thought that might have been caused by the amount of material that I had downloaded. However, now I am convinced that that anomaly has been as a result of the addition of "playlists" to the app, likely to be fixed in future releases. So grab your pitchforks and let's go a-pillaging! Wait, no. Better not. We all got friends in neighboring towns, right!?

Especially for those limited few of us who want to download absolutely everything in JW Library onto our iPads: After trying to download everything in JW Library onto my "2022 iPad M2 that has 2 TB of storage and 16 GB of memory", I ran into another wall that caused JW Library to crash repeatedly, forcing me to delete the app and all the files I had downloaded.....for the second time. My much more computer literate son compared the wall I'm running into to limitations that had been present in Java and the old CS6 version of Adobe "After Effects." He wrote, "In Java there is or was a limitation that required you to have all of your application in adjacent areas of memory. If you didn't have that continuity, the app would run out of memory, even if you had plenty of free physical RAM available. After Effects, the old CS6 version could only address 16 GB of memory per thread, and then it would effectively run out of memory. So I wonder if the JW Library app is hitting a useable memory limit, something like the two cases above." Wait, wait, wait!!!! I think I've found the problem....that could be associated with the limitations my son wrote about above! There is a 2.9 GB 4:07:05 "2014 Annual Meeting Program" video (in 720p) available in JW Library that crashes the app when you try and download that video alone. That is, by far, the longest video in the JW Library app. So I tried downloading that incredibly long video in 480p, which amounts to 1.9GB, and I was successful! Therefore , I strongly suspect that there is a 2GB limit to any video or file that one might want to download into JW Library. Go over that limit and the app will experience an unrecoverable crash. For the final test, I'm again going to, for the third time, try and download everything that is available in the JW Library app into my 2022 iPad M2 (especially since now I've already successfully downloaded that 1 extremely long video, albeit in 480p) I'll be back here, probably in a couple of weeks to post whether I was successful or not. By the way, in the "Ever Loyal" kids video that was recently posted in JW Library, how many squirrels did you count? -Lloyd Stewart, 71 years old, but never fully grown up

Warning!!!! I ran into a snag with my new iPad M2 Pro 2022 that has 2 TB of storage and thus 16 GB of RAM. In an attempt to download absolutely everything that can be downloaded into JW Library, while trying to download probably the last 20% of the remaining videos, I foolishly tried to download them all at once by clicking on the "cloud" for each video, for probably 50-60 of the videos, one after another without allowing each video to download before going to the next. So when I woke up the next morning and opened JW Library, the app, like always, opened instantly. However, when I clicked on "Library," the app would crash and continues to crash. As I've spent hours and hours downloading so much data into JW Library, you can imagine the frustration. Serves me right for being so greedy as to want everything, right? But I didn't really know why the app was crashing, so I asked BARD (Google's version of AI), and here's a possible reason/warning BARD gave: "Avoid downloading large amounts of data at once. If you need to download a lot of data, try to do it in smaller batches. This will help to prevent the app from overloading." Well, "downloading large amounts of data all at once" is exactly what I did. So, I'm pretty much back to square one, needing to delete not only the app, but apparently all the data as well, then reinstall the app and then start downloading data again. Well, as Homer Simpson says, "What are ya gonna do?" Anyway, if anyone else is crazy enough to want to download everything that is downloadable in JW Library, as BARD says, "Do it in smaller batches!!!"

I usually do the "new cell phone every two years" thing and I'm switching from Android to the newest iPhone whenever that comes out. And I've never been an Apple proponent till now, but I have to admit that the M2 2022 iPad Pro has impressed me and made me a believer, what with being able to download virtually everything that is available in JW Library, and then open it instantaneously, and also being able to switch from one thing to another within the app with no delay. Neither Android nor Windows computers can do that that I am aware of, though admittedly I have not tested the latest tablets. But I have indeed tested one of the latest Samsung phones with disappointing results, that is to say, excessive delays and slowdown as more and more is downloaded into JW Library in that device. Seems like the better deals are around Black Friday, so that's when I hope to get the iPhone 15 or whatever they're gonna call it, and then you can bet your boots that I'll put it to the test, downloading as much as I can into the JW Library app onto that device and then checking to see if it all opens instantly, or if the app begins to run slowly the more is added to it. Watch this space!