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There is bias in all these outlets....However, I’ve have purposely compared the stories and have seen first hand the deception and spinning that happens Dailey. If CNN is all you watch you wouldn’t see it. Fox is the highest rated...becasue most people can see the extreme bias on most of these other media outlets. CNN has all these LGBQ+ nonsense that the world has been buying into. They promote it along with all the other distortions. Like that story about Federal Freezing from CNN....First thing they do is imply people on food stamps and SS checks etc.....will be thrown under the bus.. Lie. First.... the full story is that it’s Only a temporary pause on certain programs known for wasteful spending and believe me it’s insane. By doing this...so far they stopped 50 million dollars from going to Gaza. Why? For condoms. This is rampant and just on example of many....adding up to literally hundreds of billions of dollars in waste. So that should be a good thing, right? Not if you hate the President.

That is DOGE at work....cleaning up all the waste in Government.....People who need assistance are not going to be abandoned. But there is literally hundreds of billions of dollars wasted on crazy stuff you would not even believe. But this is not about assistance for elderly or poor etc.... However beware, CNN will always try to change a positive into a negative with political enemies. Don’t swallow much of what they say politically. Their ratings have plummeted because more people can see through all the spinning and the misleading information they’ve spouted in the past few years. All news outlets have a bias.... but CNN takes the Cake.

Jesus also knocked over the tables, whipping and clearing out the money grubbers....but that does mean WE are now justified in doing such things. Jesus will ultimately Judge Herod. The FS never mentions Trump or Biden except that Trump was nearly assassinated, showing the growing violence. Then they quote Biden mentioning a nuclear armageddon. So it appears that the message is to avoid it direct criticism of specific current leaders. So the appearance is always Nuetrallity. Our neutrality has saved lives. I got a private message from a brother here who makes a good point. There are people on the outside looking in on this forum and If we allow ourselves to start bashing specific politicians here by name....how in the world can we say we are neutral? I’ve been embarrassed several times over the years by some well meaning friends who at a public meeting mention the president by Name and proceed to bash him......giving all newcomers the impression that we aren not neutral. The opposite of what we should do. We’ve even been counseled in the past not to bash a specific religion by name but to couch our remarks so as not to offend any visitors that may be a member of the church being bashed. I recall years ago a sister calling "Catholics stupid”..... Lot of good that did. But this topic of politics and politicians is a burning topic today and so easy to get sucked into. I think it is very wise and discreet advice from the FS to be neutral in our speech and actions.....even in our thoughts, which is much much more difficult. The FS urges neutrality, not just because we only support God’s Kingdom....but because they know if our neutrality were to disappear somehow......we would also lose our unity very quickly.

Things will be turning around soon and we’ll be hearing that word “Peace” a lot.

I agree it doesn’t matter who you’re talking about....I never said that was the problem. No matter which leader we start naming and criticizing and having a knee jerk reaction to every perceived misstep. This is a common theme here. We just had a topic that illustrates the danger in these comments. Brother Jackson in a talk said specifically...we need to 'avoid critiquing specific current leaders by name’. Anybody remember which talk that was? Anyway, you're welcome to send brother Jackson a letter and tell him not to put that badge on you. Im just the messenger.

I would recommend not getting caught up in the back and forth of the “clay” and the “Iron”. When we do that it becomes very obvious to all.... we have a political preference. Perhaps we all do...... but when you jump on the bandwagon of one side or the other to condemn every little foolish thing it removes all doubt and it reflects badly on us all. Just sayin’. And I need to take the same advice. This is a rabbit hole we shouldn’t be going down.....it causes disunity when we get caught up in these political games.

True, it’s not impossible, and some are balanced .......but overall....it seems to be what Jesus said...Matthew 19:24 . Jesus used hyperbole here but nevertheless the emphasis is on the unique and especially difficult challenges a rich man would have to overcome. Of course some have different definitions of what being “rich” means.

Interesting illustration but might need explaining. The story compares a window and a mirror to explain how money can affect people. When you look through a window, you see the world....other people, nature, and life happening around you. But when you look at a mirror, you only see yourself. The difference? A thin layer of silver on the back of the mirror. The silver represents money. The lesson is, when people focus too much on wealth, they might stop seeing others and only see themselves....their own wants, needs, and desires. It can make you selfish if you only see yourself,... like looking in the mirror. So, the question is: Are you looking through a window or staring into a mirror?

Rogue free floating planets are hard to detect because they don’t reflect much light, and unless they radiate heat, there’s not much to see. Scientists think there may be as many rogue planets as stars in our galaxy, but we haven’t found any confirmed ones near us yet. If there were one hanging around our galaxy, we’d likely notice its gravitational effects or detect it in infrared. So far,..... nothing here.

Every 25 years the Catholic Church has a “Jubilee”. This is supposed to be a time for spiritual renewal, forgiveness, and pilgrimage. The tradition dates back to 1300, when Pope Boniface VIII proclaimed the first Christian jubilee. Wikipedia The upcoming Jubilee Year, themed "Pilgrims of Hope," will commence on December 24, 2024, with Pope Francis opening the Holy Door of St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican. This act symbolizes the opening of a pathway to salvation and grace. Subsequent openings of Holy Doors at other major basilicas in Rome will follow, each marking significant moments in the Jubilee celebrations. This is not your grandmother’s Catholic Church.....Evidently, ”Tolerance" supersedes or overrules Jehovah’s laws and principles. In the “Woke” world Tolerance is now more important than Love. Except they won’t tolerate anyone who won’t tolerate immorality. 2Timothy 4:3 "For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the wholesome teaching,+ but according to their own desires, they will surround themselves with teachers to have their ears tickled.+ 4 They will turn away from listening to the truth..." "Vatican's Holy Year calendar includes event for LGBT Catholics" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/vaticans-holy-year-calendar-includes-event-lgbt-catholics-2024-12-06/?utm_source=chatgpt.com VATICAN CITY, Dec 6 (Reuters) - The Vatican has included an event organised by LGBT Catholics on its official online calendar for the upcoming 2025 Roman Catholic Holy Year, in an unusual sign of openness by the global Church toward the gay community.

Jehovah’s name is sacred, and we should use it only in ways that honor Him. Wearing a T-shirt or hat, bumper stickers etc.... with God’s name or a Bible verse might seem like a way to promote faith, but we have to consider if it reflects the dignity and respect Jehovah deserves. For example, if a T-shirt with Jehovah’s name on it is worn in situations where it might be treated casually or even disrespectfully, we could unintentionally leave a bad impression about Jehovah. Not to be taken lightly. Bible covers or "No Blood” jewelry, record keeping items etc.... they are not usually extravagant or expensive.....but they do serve practical purpose. I think some sellers are pioneers trying to make a few bucks.....but I doubt they are making lots of money. Maybe some of the bigger bookbinding companies owned by JWs make out well....I really don’t know it’s just my impression. However, IMO using God’s name or other spiritual symbols for commercial purposes or on decorative items blurs the line between honoring Jehovah and treating sacred things in a casual or commercial way. Ultimately though, it’s a personal decision. Any brother or sister in this business should reflect on their motive for using such items and whether it aligns with the principles of dignity, modesty, and respect for Jehovah. "Do all things for God’s Glory.”

Noah took all his pets with him. Seriously though, my wife is a cat lady. I hope we don’t have to quickly leave, because trying to take 2 cats in crates who are skittish will be a problem. While I love my cats and dogs I’ve had over the years, and I still think of my childhood dog and get a little emotional.... yet my reason and better judgement tells me to do whatever Jehovah directs me to do and don’t do a "Lots wife" with respect to our pets. However, if the situation seems right I would take my 2 cats with me.....but not if it is a risk to my family. If we get thrown in Jail, perhaps our brothers and sisters can care for them. Whatever pain is caused if we have to let our pets go, Jehovah will help with that. On the other hand we know that animals in general will survive the GT. Why not our pets? So maybe we will have our pets. 🐈

Yet, you can’t look away. Something keeps pulling us back.......

Do you deliver?

Sounds good! Topic complete.

Thank you. What is your opinion on the US Election?

Dawn thank you for that invitation to leave. It wasn’t my intension to interrupt the Trump bashing session. But just curious.....Why are you here? Do you have any opinion about the US election.....other than bashing Trump? It goes both ways.

Shawn....very few on this topic have been neutral in the sense of not favoring one or the other. It’s mostly been a Trump bashing therapy session. Just my opinion.... but acknowledging that one side may hold more practical views in certain contexts does not necessarily compromise neutrality. Anyone with even a little knowledge will form an opinion to some degree just naturally. My views are based on specific policies or outcomes rather than loyalty to any political party itself. Or favoring a person color, gender, personality etc.. I’m pointing out the old "Better of Two Evils” View. Both parties and candidates are part of Satan’s system and have significant flaws, but that doesn’t mean that one side may not present less harmful or more tolerable options, and make life a little easy for it’s citizens. I’m pointing out while both sides may be corrupt and immoral in different ways, they are not equal in competence to govern. The “iron” is stronger and more stable than the “clay”......that’s just a fact, not opinion. That’s how I was trying to connect what’s happening today within a scriptural discussion. But it’s become Therapy for the Trump haters. In this sense, neutrality doesn't mean complete indifference to everything It’s obvious that there is not complete indifference here. But it doesn’t necessarily mean we are putting our trust or allegiance to these doomed Kingdoms. When the brothers tell us don't even “think” about it? That is good advice however it is an idealist statement. That would be best thing to do......absolutely. However is it realistic? For maybe a few. But as this topic so well illustrates.....people naturally form opinions. We are advised not to even form an opinion. Why? .....because it can Lead taking a side and then breaking our neutrality. But I don’t believe just naturally forming an opinion on which side governs in a more practical way means I have abandoned Jehovah and taken sides with the world as soon as I form an opinion. That’s a little far fetched. The concern of the GB is that we don’t get lured in....and that is a concern for some. But just expressing an opinion does not make a person disloyal. If the president tells his VP that out of 2 of his arch enemies, in his opinion China’s Communist government is much more efficient and practical that Russia’s Government....... Is he now disloyal to the US? Does it mean he has taken sides? Hardly. That being said....I warned very early in this topic it was a bad idea and should be closed becasue I knew it would just become a Trump bashing session.....It’s a perfect reflection of what you see in the main stream media.....and the media is certainly not neutral. If we can’t relate this topic to a bible discussion......what is the point? Other than the therapeutic benefit some get. Cookies and Milk might be a better option.

If this topic is going to continue I would recommend it be about prophecy related of how we are affect by the policies of rulers.....rather than just bashing one side......repeating how dishonest one person on one side is...... when you have LGBTQ+ and other ant-religious groups trying to take over the culture.....and push their immorality on children and such. Is Trump being a shady business man is worse than all the above immorality that the other side pushes? That tells me that these are 90% emotionally driven views based on media reports. And many even in the truth have become conditioned to what the kooks are pushing on the culture and it’s no longer shocking. But if someone’s personality rubs us the wrong way....it's “derangement syndrome". The Iron aspect of the dream image refers to it strength as a world power. The weakening factor is the “Clay”. We know who the clay is. Just sayin’. The “clay” represents internal division, instability, and the inherent weakness of human rulership. This fulfills the prophecy that the 7th WP will ultimately fail and be replaced by God’s perfect rulership. I understand Trump is dishonest and has been sexually immoral in the past. I am only offering my view on his competence to govern in this system vs Harris’. He has been dishonest in his personal business....but I’m speaking to his qualifications to Govern. She is also dishonest as she has lied straight faced.....but that is to be expected......but that’s not the problem. The main Problem is: She is incompetent. That is what many avoid acknowledging....I guess it’s more fun to bash Trump. Did anyone see some of the woke women saying that because men voted for trump they will be getting no more sex. This is the mentality we’re talking about along with cancel culture. Several popular presidents have been adulterers’ while in office. Jefferson, Harding, FDR, Kennedy, and Clinton.....all adulterers’ while serving as President....Yet they are considered by many as great rulers. Even Nixon was considered a very competent President. That is the main point I am making....I’m not here to defend trumps sins. So its really about the policies not the personality in this world.

The Fact is, Kings, rulers politicians or groups of politicians are sexually immoral or corrupt and have been that way since day one. Even among God’s chosen people. Nothing new here. The same people who call one candidate immoral or crooked.....have voted for another candidates who are also either immoral or corrupt. Bashing one candidate for their personal sins is meaningless unless you bash them all. So if you are trying to convince me that Trump is shady business man. Your’e preaching to the choir. I’m speaking to competence not personality. Many people get very emotional and overlook basic facts. Again, I hate to interrupt the Trump bashing party here but I was hoping it would be more about what is actually happening instead of conspiracy theories such as Trump is going to be a dictator and another Hitler.....a fascist, etc.....Worst of all he could interfere with killing babies. I find it interesting that we keep referring to Trumps dishonesty about his personal finances....But I never mention the blatantly immoral views of the other side. Your focus is one one person’s dishonesty when the others sides moral views are as bad....and I would say Much Worse! For example: We all know that cheating on taxes is much worse than allowing a man claiming to be a woman to use rest rooms and locker rooms for women and girls. Right? Trump is not a typical politician, We live in a “woke" society where everyone is racist and everything is offensive. In contrast, he is blunt, arrogant and rude to those rude to him. He has done a great deal to expose the falsehoods the media puts out. Most people don’t trust the media and for good reason. They are people and people are mostly bias toward their own worldviews. Most media is left leaning. There’s no question about that. Fox New is the main one that is bias toward Trump. ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC,,,,,, these all hate Trump. If I hear a story on CNN for example...and I’m curious, I will check Fox to get the other side. Almost always, one side will leave out certain details that can change one's perception. None of these sources are neutral in reporting.....theres always that spin they all put on it. It seems other women and minorities have a very different opinion than you. Because more women and minorities voted for Trump this time than previous times. Harris had less votes from women than Biden. After 4 years People can see, she is a much worse a phony than Trump...and her biggest problem is she is incompetent. They made it no secret that she was chosen as VP based on her gender and skin color. Isn't that the definition of racism? This is how they think....it’s not about what best for everyone as a whole.....it’s about gender, color, looks, sexual preferences. It’s “Identity politics”. In the mean time, inflation and crime goes crazy....and the poor minorities and homeless are never really helped as promised. Instead, they send Billions and Billions of tax payer dollars overseas. The Supreme Court sent back the right to kill your baby to the States to decide locally. The women have been going nuts. Started marching on the streets like a bunch of “Karens”. This is the reason they say "Trump hates women". They think he will ban the killing of innocent babies. God forbid that happen. Before believing or repeating everything you hear, it’s wise to check both sides of these stories you are hearing....then use a fact checker. There’s a lot of lies and misinformation floating around these days. Good advice!

Yes, as I said all sins can be forgiven or lead to death. The death part we agree on....however, my assertion is that some sins are obviously more offensive and disgusting than other sins .....even to Jehovah. Are you saying that is not true?

Many Presidents have been sexually immoral....that’s no secret. Clinton was a real pervert right in the Oval Office. Kennedy was immoral and many others. Topic was supposed to be about the outcome and effects of the Election.....I thought that might be more about prophecy or even policies.....but it seems we have the “Trump derangement syndrome” here. This country is way past arguing that a politician has been sexually immoral....Most people don’t care because they know many on both side are or have been. People care about their wallets most.

Yes all sin leads to death. However, the Bible indicates that some sins are particularly offensive or detestable to Jehovah because of their nature or the degree to which they show disrespect for His holiness and sovereignty. Recall those "sins” listed in Proverbs 6: 16-19 that are especially detestable to Jehovah? All sin leads to death and any sin can be forgiven. However, some sins including the LGBTQ+ is an assault on Jehovah’s holiness....and our senses. Of course some of us have been so bombarded with it that we are becoming sympathetic. Nevertheless, considering the conduct in Sodom and Gomorrah and what happened there and Jesus comparison of them to our day, I would think Jehovah feels the way today about certain sins, as he did back then. While all sin results in death without repentance, some sins are more offensive due to their nature, the degree of harm they cause, or their assault on Jehovah’s sovereignty and holiness. Even on us personally we put sins at different degrees. Would you rather someone steal your car or murder your child? They are both sins that can lead to death and can be forgiven. But would you view them as the same....just Plain old Sin?

They only run every 4 years. Many candidates have run several times. Biden has run 4 times in his career. Harris has run 2 times and she may be back. Trump 3 times. FDR ran 4 times, Reagan ran 4 times and many others ran 3 times. So there’s nothing strange there. Where did Harris get her money? From upstanding citizens? LGBTQ and all the Hollywood Celebs pushing these lifestyles. Sounds like many prefer that bunch be in power. Men playing In women’s sports, in their locker rooms. etc..... They have some extreme views....and perverted. They make trump look like Snow White. They don’t even pretend to care what God or the Bible say. They ridicule religious beliefs whenever they can. They’re guilty of the literal slaughter and murder of millions of babies and they fight for the right to continue to do that.... with ferocity. Harris’ VP running mate T. Walz as Governor signed law in Minnesota law that permits abortions at any stage of pregnancy, without specific gestational limits. Maybe I’m just too “old fashioned”. This new culture is definitely not my cup of tea These are the leaders of a new Sodom and Gomorrah Culture Jesus warned we would see. Yet many are more concerned by Trumps morals character. However, No worries, I think many will eventually get their wish anyway. Trump will be gone.....maybe assassinated .... The “woke" and "progressives” will get back in power and will take down religion and pave the way to Armageddon for us. All is Good!

I recall in 2019 the US was producing more oil that it was using. However, immediately in 2020 Biden slowed the drilling way down and started importing more from other countries. Gas prices and started going up dramatically. Later I recall they had to take from the U.S. oil reservers to help stabilize the prices. The reserve oil is only supposed to used for emergencies....such as in case of war. So they cut down the local drilling to appease the fringe part of their party and everyone has paid for it dearly. Of course the lifestyle of those in power is not affected.