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Yes, I remember that....the same for miles/kilometers.......I think they may have changed their mind on converting. But if they did convert to metric, I would be in trouble.Your formula above makes no sense to me at all.

I'm with you on that one.....well, the great tribulation or my dog having to go outside.

So we see, though most people have come to see that God's name is Jehovah....they still have an adversion to it. How sad for them.

I saw that they named the song being sung, O Guide Me O Great Jehovah, Guide Me....and that it was a welsh song.....which of course, made me think of you. You are hearing different religions using God's name a bit more.....which can be a witness in itself. Even those who never put faith in the name Jehovah may atleast be interested when one of his witnesses come knocking on the door....they just may listen for the first time.

here on the central coast of california our weather has been on the chilly side but sunny and clear. yesterday it was actually a beautiful day with a warming trend today thru the weekend. perfect for service! i have been trying to keep my eyes on our friends in the severe weather zone as flooding and tornadoes are hitting hard! i have a few friends in the areas hardest hit. one thing for sure, our weather is very weird and it easy to see how Jehovah will use the natural elements to cleanse the earth in due time. in the meantime, keep our brothers in our prayers! Will do, Dianne, thankyou for the reminder.....hope all is well for our brothers and sisters who live in those areas.

like they said on the news yesterday "they have been living in sin for the last 7 years"....so,... oun't get me started You mean they have been living the fairytale for 7 years and we didn't know??!! That's way of fairytales.....once upon a time... and they lived happily ever after. ;)

No, I will not. I'm already tired of the news media's everyday news about Kate's childhood, Will's childhood....their school years, the guessing of what style of dress she will wear....really.....I'm sorry, but I don't care anything about the wedding. I hope they have a nice day and all, but, to use an english phrase, "It's just not my cup of tea." I do know of someone who said they are getting up at 3 or 4 in the morning to watch it, though she is the only one that I know of that would do that.

I live in northeast Ohio and we have had alot of rainy days/partially rainy days. No tornadoes though as some in the south have had and in the Mid-West. It is the wettest spring that I can remember. The weather patterns are definitely messed up. I've not heard of so many tornadoes in one storm either. I am hoping for nicer weather for May....April showers bring May flowers as the expression goes.

I live in northeast Ohio and we have had alot of rainy days/partially rainy days. No tornadoes though as some in the south have had and in the Mid-West. It is the wettest spring that I can remember. The weather patterns are definitely messed up.

Thankyou Fran, there is wisdom in your words. I know we have been counseled in recent years to speak less, and to listen more. I love also your, "love builds up" comment....in fact love should be the over-riding quality we as Jehovah's Witnesses should strive to emulate.....we are all imperfect, all make mistakes, but love "covers a multitude of sins." Let's remember whatever we do, we show love for the other person, whether we are the one that feels the need to correct, or we are the one being corrected. :readbible:

I see what you are saying Karen...I do not know... I also think if they are saying Peace and Security and then turn on religion...I ask myself why if they think they have peace and security... what is the reason they are turning on religion... btw time sequence from my notes...last Sunday public talk 1) Peace and Security...1 Thessalonians 5:3. 2) World politics and UN turn on and destroy false religion...Revelation 17:16 3)Political elements turn on Jehovah's people...which leads to Armageddon...Ezekiel 38 18-20 : Daniel 2:44,45 4)Satan taken out...abyssed ...Revelation 20:1-3 5)Paradise...Revelation 21 :3,4 6)Resurrection...John 5:28,29 7)1000 year reign...Jesus hands back to Jehovah...1 Corinthians 15; 24-28 8).Satan let loose...final test...Satan and all his followers destroyed...everlasting life for all who pass...Revelation 20:7,8 Thanks again Sian. We too had a recent talk on the great tribulation, with the outline you have shared. We know these things are soon take place, we won't know just how, but when we see these things start to occur, then we are told to raise ourselves erect, as our deliverance is near. So, I appreciate the spiritual food we've been given. And just like the disciples were curious as to "when these things" are to occur, we too are curious. Jesus telling us to "keep on the watch" is important, as we don't want to become drowsy, and thinking like those in the world, that the end is not yet. Some things we will know, when we see it. Then I will have my answer on who proclaims peace and security and what that in fact means.

Thankyou Jan, I appreciate you sharing that. Yes, in the FDS feeds us well, spiritually. In our Revelation book, Chapter 34, par. 3,4, speaking of the "John class" as watchful and under angelic direction (par 2) it states: par3) "From September 18-20, 1942, at the height of WWII, Jehovah's Witnesses in the United States held their New World Theocratic Assembly. The key city, Cleveland, Ohio, was tied in by telephone with more than 50 other convention cities, for a peak attendance of 129,699. Where wartime conditions permitted, other conventions repeated the program around the world. At the time, many of Jehovah's people expected that the war would escalate into God's war of Armageddon; hence the title of the public talk, "Peace--Can It Last?," aroused much curiosity. How could the new president of the Watch Tower Society, N. H. Knorr, presume to talk about peace when the very opposite seemed to be in store for the nations? The reason was that the John class was paying 'more than the usual attention' to God's prophetic Word.--Hebrews 2:1; 2 Peter 1:19" par 4) What light did the talk "Peace--Can It Last?" throw on the prophecy? Clearly identifying the scarlet-colored wild beast of Revelation 17:3 as the League of Nations, President Knorr went on to discuss its stormy career on the basis of the angel's following words to John: "The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction."--Revelation 17:8a" par 5) (describes those nations in the League of Nations when in Sept. 1939 the Nazi dictator of Germany launched WWII) "Having failed to keep peace in the world, the League of Nations virtually plunged into an abyss of inactivity.By 1942 it had become a has-been. Neither before this nor at some later date--but right on time---did Jehovah interpret to his people the full depth of meaning of the vision! At the New World Theocratic Assembly, President Knorr could declare, in line with the prophecy, that "the wild beast....is not." He then asked the question, "will the League remain in the pit? Quoting Revelation 17:8, he answered: "The association of worldly nations will rise again." That is just how it proved to be--in vindication of Jehovah's prophetic Word!" I also found Brother Knorr's words remarkable too, "The association of worldly nations will rise again." He did not say, "The League of Nations," as when it came back, its name had changed to "the United Nations." Again quite accurate phrasing at this most important assembly held in Cleveland, Ohio in 1942. How truly blessed we are. :readbible:

Thankyou Leann, I appreciate your thoughts. I have been sharing that very Scripture in Jeremiah w/others for awhile now.....and hadn't noticed the cross reference to 1 Thes. 5:3......that does make sense to me. And it is quite possible that the escalating concerns in the Middle East, and right now, in Libya, but also Iran, w/the just passed "no fly zone" in Libya by the UN.....maybe the conditions in the Middle East will look more "peaceful" in the days ahead. I certainly could see religious leaders, in particular, in Christendom, pronounce "Peace and security!" With that, then sudden destruction would come to BTG. Well, the important thing is, however it happens, we know that there will be a pronouncment of peace and security and the nations w/the UN destroying BTG. So much seems to be coming to a head, in so many ways, our concentration needs to be on our meetings, the ministry, and staying close to Jehovah and his organization. :readbible:

Thanks for sharing that Sian, I've been rereading parts of the "Revelation" book and I like the thought expressed, "What form will this significant cry of "Peace and security!" take? It is here mentioned as being outstanding just before the sudden destruction of those making the cry. Hence, it will HAVE TO BE MORE PRONOUNCED THAN ANY PREVIOUS DECLARATIONS BY WORLD LEADERS. No doubt, IT WILL BE ON AN EARTH-WIDE SCALE. Yet, it will be a facade." (emphasis mine) (chp. 34, p 251, par. 14) So the "outstanding pronouncment" or "significant cry" comes "just before the sudden destruction of those making the cry." So those making the pronouncement, are they not the governments, UN, world leaders? The paragraph in Revelation indicates that. If so, does peace and security pronouncment come before or after the destruction of BTG? This is what is confusing to me. I fully accept what is given us by the FDS.....but the destruction of BTG comes first, as the first phase of the great tribulation.....so, does the announcing of "Peace and security!" come before destruction of BTG, w/the rest of Satan's system, w/governments, merchants, unrighteous to follow? The part that confuses me is the statement of after the pronouncment, then "sudden destruction" would be upon them. Any others want to weigh in, or Sian, maybe you a little more? :readbible: This question of mine looks confusing.......what I'm asking is "who" is doing the pronouncment of "Peace and security!" ? Paragraph 14 says that it "is here mentioned as being outstanding just before the sudden destruction of those making the cry." And then goes on to say in the same paragraph, "it will have to be more pronounced than any previous declarations by world leaders." So is it the religions making the pronouncment or the world leaders, as it says that sudden destruction comes to "those making the cry?" Maybe I'm thinking too literal, and the cry is given, and then sudden destruction comes to BTG. But I had thought that 'sudden destruction" was speaking of all unrighteous at the end of the great tribulation. That one would be standing and one would be taken along, etc. Anyways, this is the one thing that has confused me abit, but again, I'm happy to be so well-fed by the FDS. :readbible:

Hi Shawn, I'm not sure what you mean by "some of us assume the decision will come from the UN. Yes, it could stem from "a seeming unrelated events," but whatever the things that lead up to BTG's destruction, it will be by the hands of the "image" that is given the power by the nations to do so. We also know that it is Jehovah that puts the one thought into their heart, they thinking it is their idea, when it is Jehovah's thought. We listed the book, Revelation, It's Grand Climax At Hand! w/chpts. and paragraphs where we find this information. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point, but I wouldn't call it an assumption as the FDS has told us the means as to how BTG is destroyed. If I am misunderstanding, I do apologize. But I also wanted to say welcome too.