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Which is right
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When you ask “Which is right,” what two options are you deciding between?
You said:
I believe UN is in fact Gog of Magog the coalition of nations that will want to exterminate Jehovah’s organization on Earth, shortly after destroying BTG If I remember correctly, Gog is lead by the KotN ? It will sure be interesting to observe the dynamics within the UN after Rev 17:17 takes effect. One or two (Russia, China) dominate ?
Based on 2015 updated material.
1. Is Gog of Magog the UN?
No.
Jehovah’s Witnesses no longer identify Gog of Magog with a political entity such as the UN, Russia, or any worldly coalition.
The 2015 clarification (Watchtower, May 2015, Study Edition) explained:
Gog of Magog = Satan after he is cast out of heaven
Gog is Satan himself, not a human government.
After Armageddon begins, Satan gathers the nations to attack Jehovah’s people.
He acts as a leader of this global assault, but he is the identity of Gog, not an organization.
So:
✔ Gog = Satan
✔ The attack = worldwide political forces united
✘ Not the UN
✘ Not Russia or China
✘ Not the King of the North
2. Who will lead the attack on Jehovah’s people?
According to the May 2015 WT clarification:
The nations, as a collective “coalition,” will act under Satan’s direction (Gog).
There is no single nation or political bloc that leads. Instead:
All governments will act in unity,
Moved along by Jehovah to fulfill His purpose (Rev. 17:17),
And stirred by Satan’s rage, just before the end.
3. What about the UN?
While Gog is not the UN, the UN does play a major prophetic role, but in a different stage of events:
Before the attack on God’s people:
The UN = wild beast (Rev. 17)
It is given authority to destroy Babylon the Great (all false religion).
Jehovah “puts it into their hearts” to do this (Rev. 17:16-17).
But after BTG is gone, the situation shifts:
During the attack on Jehovah’s people:
It is not just the UN.
All remaining governments (under Satan as Gog) join the assault.
4. Is Gog connected with the King of the North?
Not directly.
King of the North = the dominant aggressive world power that opposes Jehovah’s people in the last days (currently understood to be Russia and its allies).
Gog of Magog = Satan after being cast out of heaven, leading a worldwide coalition.
They are not the same.
However:
The King of the North will take part in the attack.
But he won’t be leading it as “Gog.”
5. What about the UN’s internal dynamics—will Russia or China dominate?
We cannot say.
What we do know from Revelation 17:17:
Jehovah will make all political powers cooperate long enough to accomplish His will.
The UN will act in ways it normally couldn’t (or wouldn’t) by its own political logic.
The destruction of Babylon the Great will be unified, not driven by a single nation.
After that?
Alliances may shift.
The UN’s internal tensions may change.
But the exact geopolitical details are deliberately not revealed to us.
What we are certain of is:
Jehovah will control events. Political influence inside the UN will not determine prophecy—Jehovah’s purpose will.
Summary (the “right” understanding):
Gog = Satan, not the UN.
The UN destroys false religion, not Jehovah’s people.
The global attack on Jehovah’s people comes after BTG is gone, led by Satan (Gog).
The King of the North is a separate prophecy, though it participates in the final assault.
No one nation (Russia or China) is prophesied to dominate the UN during these events.
I believe after rereading the researched material this sums it up and polishes in a way that is easy to follow.