Ireland is the first

[Dustparticle]

 Today is not a good day being part Irish: http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/23/europe/ireland-referendum-same-sex-marriage/index.html

 

 Today I will be part French

Edited May 23, 2015 by Dustparticle

[Áine]

I have never known a country change so quickly ...we now find that not only have contraceptives, divorce and tampons become legal, we are now the first country to hold a referendum and vote in a right to have same sex marriage . It seems that same sex divorce will also have to be legal !! Good old Catholic Ireland.

Edited May 23, 2015 by anniebea

[RICIA]

One of the campaigners of the 'YES' Campaign, was interviewed this morning on BBC1 Breakfast. She stated that she grew up in a family of Jehovah's Witnesses in Sri Lanka and was kicked out of the family home when she 'came out' as a lesbian. She gave birth to a baby boy a few days ago and asked her girlfriend on live Dublin radio if she would marry her. Her girlfriend said 'yes'.

The Presenter stated whether abortion would be the next change of law...

This is Ireland - a staunch Catholic country. The Catholic Church are now told to take a 'Reality Check'...

BTG's end is just before our eyes Bro & Sis', before our eyes!...

[carlos]

Ireland may be the first country where a referendum was held to decide on gay marriage, but it is by no means the first country were gay marriage has been made legal. In other places (like Spain) politicians made it legal without even asking the population.

 

What the case of Ireland illustrates very well is how the power of traditional churches is quickly stepping back in Europe, even in their former strongholds.

[Stavro]

Ireland is among the last of the European nations to grant legal recognition to same sex unions, they're not the first by any measurement. (France granted civil partnership in 1999, and legalized same sex marriage in 2013.)

 

But keeping this in perspective, there are no purely secular nations that directly outlaw fornication, yet it seems that everyone is so polarized against gays that straight fornication is praised as natural, despite both acts being equally unscriptural.

[carlos]

But keeping this in perspective, there are no purely secular nations that directly outlaw fornication, yet it seems that everyone is so polarized against gays that straight fornication is praised as natural, despite both acts being equally unscriptural.

 

I agree with you that this happens, but I haven't seen anyone in this thread praising fornication yet.

 

Legalization of same sex marriage is significative because it's happening in countries where churches have strongly condemned homosexuality for centuries. That reveals how much power they are losing. On the other hand, few churches have ever actively prosecuted immorality, especially between unmarried people, or between a man and an unmarried woman. So the absence of laws against fornication isn't so relevant.

[Stavro]

I agree with you that this happens, but I haven't seen anyone in this thread praising fornication yet.

 

I was speaking of the overall attitude.

 

In the US, it's not uncommon for national-level politicians and celebrities to speak against homosexality by citing the Bible, but everyone else will silently ignore the fact that they openly live with (and often have children by) unmarried partners.

[Shawnster]

Ireland is among the last of the European nations to grant legal recognition to same sex unions, they're not the first by any measurement. (France granted civil partnership in 1999, and legalized same sex marriage in 2013.)

 

But keeping this in perspective, there are no purely secular nations that directly outlaw fornication, yet it seems that everyone is so polarized against gays that straight fornication is praised as natural, despite both acts being equally unscriptural.

 

 

Yes.  This.  Somebody may refuse to bake a cake or take pictures of a gay wedding based on "religious" grounds, but they don't bat an eye at heterosexual people "living in sin."  Rent them rooms at a bed and breakfast?  No problem.  Take pictures of the happy couple with their newborn baby born out of wedlock?  Aw, how adorable.  

 

Straight people can break God's laws and Christendom doesn't care.  

[charlielynch1992]

This is mad! It just shows how hypocritical the Catholic Church is. I do not understand what they think sometimes. I do not