Things you learned in school that were just plain wrong or could have been incorrect.

[kejedo]

The Flight brothers were the Wright Brothers, right? Wrong.  Wikimedia credits Richard Pearse

The story: In March of 1902, the New Zealand farmer took flight for roughly 350 yards (by most eyewitness accounts) in a monoplane aircraft before crashing into a hedge. This little-known experiment took place months before the Wright brothers more sustained flight.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pearse_aeroplane_replica,_South_Canterbury_Museum-2.jpg

Others have a claim to fame for the flight race, as early as the 1800s 

http://mentalfloss.com/article/16814/who-flew-wright-brothers

Anyhoot, it wasn't Wilbur and Orville. 

p.s. Digging up an old thread is not the same as resurrecting it, Wright?

[Tortuga]

The Flight brothers were the Wright Brothers, right? Wrong.  Wikimedia credits Richard Pearse

The story: In March of 1902, the New Zealand farmer took flight for roughly 350 yards (by most eyewitness accounts) in a monoplane aircraft before crashing into a hedge. This little-known experiment took place months before the Wright brothers more sustained flight.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pearse_aeroplane_replica,_South_Canterbury_Museum-2.jpg

Others have a claim to fame for the flight race, as early as the 1800s 

http://mentalfloss.com/article/16814/who-flew-wright-brothers

Anyhoot, it wasn't Wilbur and Orville. 

p.s. Digging up an old thread is not the same as resurrecting it, Wright?

 

But the Wright brothers were the first ones to offer free drinks in first class

[kejedo]

Reports of a lone hero makes for a romantic tale but are rarely true.

 

http://www.historynet.com/paul-reveres-true-account-of-the-midnight-ride.htm

 

War had begun, and, as usual, truth was the first casualty. Without his consent or connivance, Revere was cast in the role of the solitary hero by the press, propagandists, and poets. By his own account, his actions that night were far less romantic than was popularly reported. He wrote about receiving much help, being rarely alone, and, due to a sound plan, Patriots alerting the countryside before he ever rose to the saddle. Paul Revere acted as a team member, an essential role if the goal of defeating the world’s greatest military power was to be realized.

I read the whole article. Very compelling.

[kejedo]

Do you have to wait 30 minutes after eating before swimming?

 

According to Dr. Charles Smith, of the Family and Preventative Medicine Department at UAMS, there is no medical evidence to support the myth.

http://www.uamshealth.com/wait30minutestoeatafterswim

[Tortuga]

 

Do you have to wait 30 minutes after eating before swimming?

 

According to Dr. Charles Smith, of the Family and Preventative Medicine Department at UAMS, there is no medical evidence to support the myth.

http://www.uamshealth.com/wait30minutestoeatafterswim

 

 

I always suspected that was my mom's way of making me help clean the dishes after eating.

[kejedo]

One common myth about cancer is that it will spread if it’s exposed to air during surgery.Cancer does not spread because it has been exposed to air. If you delay or refuse surgery because of this myth, you may be harming yourself by not getting effective treatment.

http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/treatmenttypes/surgery/surgery-surgery-and-cancer-spread

[kejedo]

No evidence that Betsy Ross sewed the first am. flag;  As for Benjamin Franklin’s statement, “We must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall hang separately” … well, there’s no proof he ever said that.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2015/07/03/five-things-you-think-you-know-about-july-4-that-are-wrong/

[kejedo]

No evidence that Betsy Ross sewed the first am. flag;  As for Benjamin Franklin’s statement, “We must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall hang separately” … well, there’s no proof he ever said that.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2015/07/03/five-things-you-think-you-know-about-july-4-that-are-wrong/

But, Off topic a bit: Yesterday I attended a Double High School Graduation Party, All Witnesses. There were four of us there who had been baptized on July 4. (not this year). We took a group picture, (hard to call a group of four a selfie.) 

[kejedo]

"Listen my children and you shall hear of the midnight ride of Paul Revere." Longfellow had it wrong. Paul Revere was arrested and didn't complete the ride. Dawes was the man, joined by Prescott. Revisionist History by a poet.

I read on another thead, "One if by land, two if by sea" also from Longfellow's poem. Thought I'd post a link to myths regarding Paul Revere and the so called midnight ride.

 http://www.paul-revere-heritage.com/myths-and-facts.html.

[kejedo]

in usa, today is columbus day. we now recognize, almost everything reported  about him has been shown to be incorrect. what about william tell shooting an apple off his son's head/   i spent many tedious hours translating willhelm tell from german to english in high school.  now, not only is the apple shooting incident doubted, it is suggested that no such person as william tell ever existed.  

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/in-search-of-william-tell-2198511/?no-ist

 

There is just one small problem: many historians doubt that Tell ever made those two famous arrow shots in 1307, and many are convinced that no such person as William Tell ever existed.


Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/in-search-of-william-tell-2198511/#5ATVXr7SpZdt7j0T.99

[Tortuga]

in usa, today is columbus day. we now recognize, almost everything reported  about him has been shown to be incorrect. what about william tell shooting an apple off his son's head/   i spent many tedious hours translating willhelm tell from german to english in high school.  now, not only is the apple shooting incident doubted, it is suggested that no such person as william tell ever existed.  

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/in-search-of-william-tell-2198511/?no-ist

 

There is just one small problem: many historians doubt that Tell ever made those two famous arrow shots in 1307, and many are convinced that no such person as William Tell ever existed.

Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/in-search-of-william-tell-2198511/#5ATVXr7SpZdt7j0T.99

 

You can never Tell....

[kejedo]

http://www.tickld.com/x/jaw/voldemort-and-24-other-words-youve-been-pronouncing-wrong-19-is-ridiculous

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

p.s. It is true that the middle name of Theodor Geisel — “Seuss,” which was also his mother’s maiden name — was pronounced “Zoice” by the family, and by Theodor Geisel himself. He also wrote vulgar comics and was not a doctor.

[Tortuga]

http://www.tickld.com/x/jaw/voldemort-and-24-other-words-youve-been-pronouncing-wrong-19-is-ridiculous

 

 

I didn't see Philistine on the list...

[Providence]

during my school years. We were taught bamuda triangle was a place between heaven and earth where things dissappear. Don't know what this concept is.

[kejedo]

"Cute" which we think of as warm, fuzzy, and cuddly, originally meant 'sharp,' and came from the word acute. As for which is more correct, card shark vs card sharp, it's regional. Card sharp is preferred in British English, while card shark is more common in American, Canadian, and Australian English. Which do you think came first, Pool Sharp or Pool Shark? 

[seagull]

"Cute" which we think of as warm, fuzzy, and cuddly, originally meant 'sharp,' and came from the word acute. As for which is more correct, card shark vs card sharp, it's regional. Card sharp is preferred in British English, while card shark is more common in American, Canadian, and Australian English. Which do you think came first, Pool Sharp or Pool Shark? 

 

To back this up, we generally use "cute" in the warm, fuzzy, cuddly way but we do use it sometimes in keeping with the original meaning as well.  For example, if someone was to do gain an advantage in a situation through some kind of cunning or in a clever way then they could be described as being cute.

[kejedo]

'Mosaic' is usually describing a work of art made up of small pieces.  Tracing the noun shows no indication of the smaller tiles, or fragments pieced together, but showing spaces in between. Tracing the adjective leads me to surmise that the art form could have been inspired by Moses fragmented tablets

Mosaic (adj.) http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Mosaic' title="Look up Mosaic at Dictionary.com">
Edited December 1, 2015 by kejedo

[kejedo]

 

'Mosaic' is usually describing a work of art made up of small pieces.  Tracing the noun shows no indication of the smaller tiles, or fragments pieced together, but showing spaces in between. Tracing the adjective leads me to surmise that the art form could have been inspired by Moses fragmented tablets

Mosaic (adj.) 

 

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Mosaic&allowed_in_frame=0'>

[carlos]

'Mosaic' is usually describing a work of art made up of small pieces.  Tracing the noun shows no indication of the smaller tiles, or fragments pieced together, but showing spaces in between. Tracing the adjective leads me to surmise that the art form could have been inspired by Moses fragmented tablets

 

The origin of this word is not clear, but it comes from Greek, and it's probably related to the Muses (= the Greek goddesses that inspired artists).

Edited December 1, 2015 by carlos

[kejedo]

The origin of this word is not clear, but it comes from Greek, and it's probably related to the Muses (= the Greek goddesses that inspired artists).

Here's the full adjective definition from etymology on line - Mosaic "pertaining to Moses," 1660s (earlier Mosaical, 1560s), from Modern Latin Mosaicus, from Moses.

I knew that about Muses and was wondering if Muses was a derivation of Moses. One of the pantheons of mythology had a God named Jove. This post should have been in my offtopic thread.

[carlos]

Here's the full adjective definition from etymology on line - Mosaic "pertaining to Moses," 1660s (earlier Mosaical, 1560s), from Modern Latin Mosaicus, from Moses.

I knew that about Muses and was wondering if Muses was a derivation of Moses. One of the pantheons of mythology had a God named Jove. This post should have been in my offtopic thread.

 

Yes, there is no doubt about that. But maybe they are homonyms: two different words, with different meanings and different origins, which by chance look the same. The dictionary actually treats them as two different words, with different entries.

 

Mosaic -> relative to Moses, from Latin > Hebrew (Moses)

Mosaic -> decoration made assembling little pieces, from Latin > Greek (Muses)

[kejedo]

Many believe if a frog is put in cold water (that is gradually brought to a boil,) it will not be able to jump out. The old old experiment was done with a frog that had its brain removed. Modern experiments have tested the hypothesis and concluded it will jump before it gets hot, they don't sit still for you," - as long as there is not a cover on the pot, the frog will jump out. There seems to be a mistaken control group where frogs were dropped into water that was already boiling, and could not get out fast enough. Personally, I like frogs and would never boil one. As for turtle soup, that's just wrong. 

Modern sources tend to dispute that the phenomenon is real. In 1995, Professor Douglas Melton, of the Harvard University Biology department, said, "If you put a frog in boiling water, it won't jump out. It will die. If you put it in cold water, it will jump before it gets hot—they don't sit still for you." Dr. George R. Zug, curator of reptiles and amphibians at the National Museum of Natural History, also rejected the suggestion, saying that "If a frog had a means of getting out, it certainly would get out."^[3]

In 2002 Dr. Victor H. Hutchison, Professor Emeritus of Zoology at the University of Oklahoma, with a research interest in thermal relations of amphibians, said that "The legend is entirely incorrect!". He described how the critical thermal maximum for many frog species has been determined by contemporary research experiments: as the water is heated by about 2 °F, or 1.1 °C, per minute, the frog becomes increasingly active as it tries to escape, and eventually jumps out if the container allows it.^[4][9]

 

Legend of the boiling frog is just a legend by Whit Gibbons, Ecoviews, November 18, 2002, retrieved November 24, 2015

 

Could be wrong, always open to new info and adjustments.

Edited December 11, 2015 by kejedo

[Tortuga]

Legend of the boiling frog is just a legend by Whit Gibbons, Ecoviews, November 18, 2002, retrieved November 24, 2015

 

I mention that in a post, somewhere....

I did some research and it appear the frog in boiling water is just a story. I know it was used in many talks so i hope the brothers are updating their talks..

[kejedo]

I mention that in a post, somewhere....

I did some research and it appear the frog in boiling water is just a story. I know it was used in many talks so i hope the brothers are updating their talks..

Yes, I do think I remember seeing this on another post here, but i forgot where. Maybe I put this in the wrong place. Personally, I try to check out illustrations before I use them.  What's your take on turtle soup?

[carlos]

Come on, will you ruin a great illustration just because it's not true?

Edited December 12, 2015 by carlos