Pope wants to change line Our Father Prayer

[Tia]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/12/07/pope-francis-wants-to-change-line-our-father-prayer.html

 

Pope Francis has suggested he wants to make a change to The Lord's Prayer,

widely known among the faithful as the “Our Father.”

Specifically, the Catholic leader said in an interview Wednesday he would prefer

to adjust the phrase “lead us not into temptation,” saying that it too strongly suggested that God leads people to sin.

“That is not a good translation,” the pope said, according to Reuters.

The phrase “do not let us fall into temptation,” which the Catholic Church in France has previously decided to use,

would be a more appropriate alternative, Francis said.

[EccentricM]

Sounds fair. It's a translation/context issue after all.  That or "lead us away from temptation". 

 

Falls in line with James 1:13 -  "When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone."

Edited December 8, 2017 by EccentricM

[New World Explorer]

I thought they wanted to change into: Don't let your Kingdom come to destroy us! (meaning Christedom)

[Tia]

6 hours ago, EccentricM said:

Sounds fair. It's a translation/context issue after all.  That or "lead us away from temptation". 

 

Falls in line with James 1:13 -  "When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone."

 

My thoughts exactly - just to note for FS.

[carlos]

That's strange. When I went to school (several decades ago) the Our Father was prayed every day by the class and they already said "Do not let us fall into temptation". I didn't know that was not the official version.

[sunshine]

7 hours ago, Gregexplore said:

I thought they wanted to change into: Don't let your Kingdom come to destroy us! (meaning Christedom)

 

I thought it would be about God's name - after all they've already banned the mention of it in their services.  Why not go the whole hog so we can sit back and enjoy the show.  Seriously though, he is being reasonable as language has changed and it would clarify the meaning.

Edited December 8, 2017 by sunshine

[Tortuga]

If the pope read the magazines he would have understood that scripture a long time ago.

 

*** w09 2/15 p. 18 par. 16 Do Jesus’ Sayings Influence Your Prayers? ***
16 “Do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the wicked one.” (Matt. 6:13) How are we to understand these two related requests in Jesus’ model prayer? One thing is certain: Jehovah does not tempt us to commit sin. (Read James 1:13.) Satan—“the wicked one”—is the real “Tempter.” (Matt. 4:3) However, the Bible speaks of God as doing things that he is merely permitting. (Ruth 1:20, 21; Eccl. 11:5) Therefore, “do not bring us into temptation” is a petition that Jehovah not permit us to succumb when we are tempted to disobey him. Finally, the plea “deliver us from the wicked one” is a request that Jehovah not allow Satan to overcome us. And we can be confident that ‘God will not let us be tempted beyond what we can bear.’—Read 1 Corinthians 10:13.
 

 

*** w15 6/15 p. 28 pars. 13-14 Live in Harmony With the Model Prayer—Part II ***
13Jehovah is holy and therefore never tempts anyone to do evil. Rather, it is the Devil who is “the Tempter.” (Matt. 4:3) The Devil can create tempting situations. Yet, it is up to each individual whether he will allow himself to be brought into temptation or not. (Read James 1:13-15.) For his part, Jesus immediately rejected each temptation by the use of a relevant quotation from God’s Word. Thus, Jesus upheld God’s rightful sovereignty. But Satan did not give up. He waited “until another convenient time.” (Luke 4:13) Jesus continued to resist all of Satan’s efforts to break his integrity. Christ upheld the righteousness of Jehovah’s sovereignty and proved that a perfect human can be faithful despite the most extreme test. However, Satan attempts to ensnare Jesus’ followers, including you.
14 Because of the ongoing issue regarding God’s sovereignty, Jehovah allows the Tempter to use this world to tempt us. God is not bringing us into temptation. On the contrary, he has confidence in us and he wants to help us. Out of respect for our free will, though, Jehovah does not automatically prevent us from falling into temptation. We have to do two things—remain spiritually awake and persist in prayer. How does Jehovah answer our prayers?
 

Edited December 8, 2017 by Tortuga