Neanderthals shared ancestor with humans

[surfergirl]

http://www.smh.com.au/world/science/neanderthals-shared-ancestor-with-humans-20120815-248zp.html

Sorry for mucking up topic I don't know how to edit that one.

Is Suppose to be about the Netherlands, Having a human ancestor, My computer is still miss behaving. LOL

[rbrown1205]

Weird. They said before that we have like 90+% of DNA in common with chimps or apes, or whatever. What makes the Neaderthals related to us in some way with 4% of DNA? We also have 90+% DNA with dolphins, so what does that prove anyway?

http://www.thewhalepeople.com/2010/10/endangered-whales-dolphins-wipe-those-smiles-off-your-faces/

God created us, and gave each of the animals what they needed to survive. This fact does not mean that we came from them.

[Dages]

Dolphin... interesting point.

[BlueRose]

Weird. They said before that we have like 90+% of DNA in common with chimps or apes, or whatever. What makes the Neaderthals related to us in some way with 4% of DNA? We also have 90+% DNA with dolphins, so what does that prove anyway?

http://www.thewhalepeople.com/2010/10/endangered-whales-dolphins-wipe-those-smiles-off-your-faces/

God created us, and gave each of the animals what they needed to survive. This fact does not mean that we came from them.

That's not what they are saying. For some time now scientists have said that humans and Neanderthals existed together. Now they say, in addition, that apparently they had a human ancestor. That fits in to my theory that the Neaderthals were the Nephilim. Their mothers were human. Can't wait to find out all about it! (New System)

[RichardTalking]

Thanks for the article Gabe!

This is an interesting topic. I just received a new book last week, called "Science & Human Origins", but I still haven't found the time to start reading it

As always, problems with common ancestry are explained away so easy! The article says:

"The Cambridge researchers examined demographic patterns suggesting humans were far from intimate with the species they displaced in Europe almost 40,000 years ago. That conflicts with recent studies that found inter-species mating probably occurred. 'The levels of hybridisation people have spoken about is too high,'' said Andrea Manica, a researcher from Cambridge University who wrote the study, in a telephone interview. ''If any hybridisation happened, then it would have been minimal.''

So, the demographic "evidence" contradicts the genetic "evidence"?? Hmm, why should that be? Notice the word "suggesting" It's flip flop time since Darwin's days, nothing has changed really. Common ancestry always wins, whatever the problem may be! Better to give care to a dead patient than to allow divine creation or intelligent design (or honestly saying "We don't know" ). Who's laughing?

''Differences between populations can be explained by common ancestry,''

LOL! Normally similarities are seen as evidence for common ancestry, but because they need another explanation to fit their demographic data, now they believe "differences...can be explained by common ancestry". Like I said, common ancestry always wins, whatever the contradictions.

Agape, br. Richard

[rbrown1205]

Contradictory theories - and a picture of a fellow who looks like the guy down the street!!

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Human-Neanderthal Interbreeding Theory

Study casts doubt on human-Neanderthal interbreeding theory

Cambridge scientists claim DNA overlap between Neanderthals and modern humans is a remnant of a common ancestor

Alok Jha, science correspondent

The Guardian, Monday 13 August 2012

[bohemian]

This is an interesting topic. I just received a new book last week, called "Science & Human Origins", but I still haven't found the time to start reading it

Agape, br. Richard

I have that book on my Kindle, and found it very interesting, if a little above my head at times. I exchanged emails with Casey Luskin on the subject of chromosome fusion and he was very helpful.

As for 'common ancestry', it is often cited as the cause of similarities between species, then the similarities between species are used as evidence for common ancestry. The circular reasoning is logically flawed: you cannot presuppose the existence of something and then use it as the evidence for that something to exist.

It is similar to Hawking's "The universe will create itself", presupposing X to prove the existence of X.