Public execution 😳

[Tortuga]

This shows how much the world and government is changing. The first public execution since 1945...

 

US to livestream Army firing squad execution of Fort Hood shooter, Pentagon says | Reuters https://share.google/WSMQu0DKwgzAokMPd

[lostinthought]

Medieval. Pretty sure that the only people who think this is a good idea have never seen someone who was shot to death. It's not like Hollywood/videogames. It's likely going to be messy, loud and take a lot longer than you might think.
The silver lining is that this, combined with other recent botched executions, might put the public off the idea of capital punishment in future. 

[Kwabena]

Iron and clay. 

Soft enough to let the people think that and the state are on the same level but hard enough to do public executions. 

[Jim Jam]

In ancient Israel executions were public too

[Shawnster]

(Romans 13:4) 4 for it is God’s minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear, for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword. It is God’s minister, an avenger to express wrath against the one practicing what is bad.

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&pub=nwtsty&srctype=wol&bible=45013004&srcid=share

 

I actually think it would not have been televised had it not been for the botched execution in Tennessee. This feels like the federal government trying to say "look at me, I can do it better". 

[BLEmom]

It’s horrifying to think of the implications of a livestream execution in this day and age. 

Young people watching. 
How some will laugh and rejoice while watching. 

Literally the whole world watching in unison. 
The recordings that will be made and played over and over. 
AI being used to alter scenes. 
 

I know it’s all happened before but for it to be livestreamed is a whole new level. 
It’s similar to The Hunger Games. 
People are so desensitized and this will only increase all of that.  

[LeolaRootStew]

10 hours ago, Shawnster said:

(Romans 13:4) 4 for it is God’s minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear, for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword. It is God’s minister, an avenger to express wrath against the one practicing what is bad.

 

Exactly the scripture I was going to cite. I am neither for nor against public executions because governments have a right to decide how they handle judicial cases, but I'll note it was matter of course in Israel to stone people to death so I can't pretend it's a "barbaric" concept to execute criminals. Each person will have to decide whether or not it is appropriate to watch.

[Shawnster]

200 years ago all executions were in front of a live audience, no? Everyone in town could go watch the hangin'

[Kunlesky]

It is horrifying to witness life snuffed out of a person as they gasp for their last breath. As a teenager, I was curious enough to try to attend one, unsuccessfully, in the early '80s. Those being executed were armed robbers, and the location lies between my high school and my home. Thinking back, though, the punishment seems fitting for the crime, as they were ruthless killers; it would still have haunted my sleep...

[Tortuga]

12 hours ago, BLEmom said:

It’s horrifying to think of the implications of a livestream execution in this day and age. 

I keep thinking it's a bluff. Trump will blame someone else for not letting it happen. 

[tekmantwo]

1 hour ago, Tortuga said:

I keep thinking it's a bluff. 

Bread and circuses...

[Michał]

Im not suprised he got capital punishment for killing 13 persons. According to the article last public execution was in 1936. I think killing a murderer in front of victims family is one thing or in front of people close to the crime but streaming it live for billions to watch is something else entirely. 

[Tortuga]

7 hours ago, tekmantwo said:

Bread and circuses...

Yeah, maybe. Public executions are supposed to deter people from crime and solidify the governments power and authority. However history shows it isn't very effective. 

[Tortuga]

Those of us old enough to remember LBJ can remember his strong personality and how the Vietnam war ruined his political career. I have seen a lot of people comparing LBJ and Trump.

[lostinthought]

13 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

 

Exactly the scripture I was going to cite. I am neither for nor against public executions because governments have a right to decide how they handle judicial cases, but I'll note it was matter of course in Israel to stone people to death so I can't pretend it's a "barbaric" concept to execute criminals. Each person will have to decide whether or not it is appropriate to watch.

 

I don't think watching such medieval-era act of violence would be appropiate for a christian.

[truce]

2 hours ago, lostinthought said:

 

I don't think watching such medieval-era act of violence would be appropiate for a christian.

Romans 13:4

2 hours ago, Tortuga said:

Those of us old enough to remember LBJ can remember his strong personality and how the Vietnam war ruined his political career. I have seen a lot of people comparing LBJ and Trump.

Who's LBJ? Lyndon B Johnson?

[LeolaRootStew]

2 hours ago, lostinthought said:

 

I don't think watching such medieval-era act of violence would be appropiate for a christian.

 

Like I said, that's your decision.

[Mike]

 
I don't think watching such medieval-era act of violence would be appropiate for a christian.

I agree. Christians hate violence. Any execution is a violent act. Why watch what Jehovah hates?


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[Shawnster]

58 minutes ago, Mike said:

I agree. Christians hate violence. Any execution is a violent act. Why watch what Jehovah hates?


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This is an opinion based on conscience.  Someone else may not consider execution an act of violence. 

 

On the other hand, some might consider it state-sanctioned murder. 

 

Bottom line is it is not appropriate for a Christian to make a blanket statement that something is not appropriate for a Christian if there is no clear scripture command.  As we are learning these past couple of years, Jehovah expects us to stand on our own and apply our God-given reasoning ability in applying Bible principles to reach conclusions for which there are no direct scriptural guidelines. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Shawnster

[truce]

2 hours ago, Shawnster said:

 

This is an opinion based on conscience.  Someone else may not consider execution an act of violence. 

 

On the other hand, some might consider it state-sanctioned murder. 

 

Bottom line is it is not appropriate for a Christian to make a blanket statement that something is not appropriate for a Christian if there is no clear scripture command.  As we are learning these past couple of years, Jehovah expects us to stand on our own and apply our God-given reasoning ability in applying Bible principles to reach conclusions for which there are no direct scriptural guidelines. 

Exactement ça.