Clerical Celibacy, Not A Doctrine

[Allabord4Jah]

Pope Francis' No. 2: Clerical celibacy is open to discussion

 

By F. Brinley Bruton, Staff Writer, NBC News

 

The Vatican’s new secretary of state has said that priestly celibacy is not church dogma and therefore open to discussion, marking a significant change in approach towards one of the thorniest issues facing the Roman Catholic Church.

 

"Celibacy is not an institution but look, it is also true that you can discuss (it) because as you say this is not a dogma, a dogma of the church," Archbishop Pietro Parolin said in response to a question during an interview with Venezuelan newspaper El Universal.

 

He added that while it was not dogma, clerical celibacy was a deeply entrenched Catholic tradition.

"The efforts that the church made to keep ecclesiastical celibacy, to impose ecclesiastical celibacy, have to be taken into consideration," Parolin said. "One cannot say simply that this belongs in the past."

 

As secretary of state, Parolin is the head of government and seen as the most powerful official at the Vatican after the pontiff.   Many of Pope Francis' predecessors had declared the subject off-limits.   “There has been a lot of resistance to discussing the issue of celibacy,” said Abigal Frymann, online editor and former foreign editor with U.K.-based Catholic weekly The Tablet.  "[Parolin’s comments] open up a fascinating argument."

 

Father Federico Lombardi, the director of the Holy See’s press office, said Parolin’s comments were "in line with the teachings of the church."

 

Pope's No. 2: Clerical celibacy is open for discussion

 

(Yes, we all see the "true teachings of the church" in this instance, celibacy has caused to countless millions since this religion came into existence)

 

 

[trottigy]

1 Timothy 1:4 However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons, 2 by the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, marked in their conscience as with a branding iron; 3 forbidding to marry, commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be partaken of with thanksgiving by those who have faith and accurately know the truth.

[feather]

Father Federico Lombardi, the director of the Holy See’s press office, said Parolin’s comments were "in line with the teachings of the church."

 -->  “Do not handle, nor taste, nor touch,” respecting things that are all destined to destruction by being used up,

     in accordance with the commands and teachings of men? Those very things are, indeed, possessed of

      an appearance of wisdom in a self-imposed form of worship and mock humility, a severe treatment of the body;

        but they are of no value in combating the satisfying of the flesh ~ Col 2:21-23

 

He added that while it was not dogma, clerical celibacy was a deeply entrenched Catholic tradition.

--> For YOU know that it was not with corruptible things, with silver or gold, that YOU were delivered from YOUR

       fruitless form of conduct received by tradition from YOUR forefathers  ~ 1 Pe 1:18

 

--> and thus YOU make the word of God invalid by YOUR tradition which YOU handed down.

        And many things similar to this YOU do.” ~ Mark 7:13

 

[MizPeg]

Maybe this new group of clerics that rule the Catholics will be the start of the weeping nd gnashing¿

[Fee-bee]

"Tickling the ears"

[Rajan]

While on the subject,  I remember a joke:

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A young monk arrives at the monastery. He is assigned to helping the other monks in  copying the old canons and laws of the church by hand.

 

He notices, however, that all of the monks are copying from copies,  not from the original manuscript. So, the new monk goes to the head abbot to  question this, pointing out that if someone made even a small error in the first copy,  it would never be picked up! In fact, that error would be continued in all of the subsequent copies.

 

The head monk, says, "We have been copying from the copies for centuries,  but you make a good point, my son."

 

He goes down into the dark caves underneath the monastery where the original  manuscripts are held as archives in a locked vault that hasn't been opened for hundreds  of years. Hours go by and nobody sees the old abbot.

 

So, the young monk gets worried and goes down to look for him.  He sees him banging his head against the wall and wailing.

 

"We missed the R!

 We missed the R!

 We missed the R!"

 

His forehead is all bloody and bruised and he is crying

 uncontrollably. The young monk asks the old abbot, "What's wrong, father?"

 With A choking voice, the old abbot replies, "The word was.. CELEBRATE"