Catholic Church Scandal - thousands of stolen babies in Spain

[rbrown1205]

I wonder if we need to be careful about terms....

The Catholic Church (and it is clear that this particular article is about its atrocities specifically) is not only the harlot - all of false religion is.

Protestant religious leaders all over the world directly identify the "whore of Babylon" with the Catholic Church only. That gets them off of the hook, so to speak, because they feel they don't need to look at their own unholy acts, not the least of which are sexually related, spiritually blinding, and/or are related to involvement in political affairs. Plus, there are those religions outside of Christendom, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, etc.- they are all part of Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religon, characterized by teaching doctrines that originated in ancient Babylon, and by their involvement with the kings of the earth.

[retroHelen]

This is the ongoing scandal of the Catholic Countries who used the Church to further their dictatorship's power by removing children from dissenters and re-homing them with Catholic families faithful to the church and their ruling government and involves more countries than previously realised. The Church organisation thus identifying itself 'by it's fruitage' to match false Christianity by it's unchristian actions and therefore part of what God calls all false religions 'Babylon the Great' of whose sins Revelation says have, over the centuries 'massed clear up to heaven' for final judgement by the Heavenly Courts to be brought upon them all.

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Questions are being raised over the New Pope Francis' role or knowledge of the disappearing of babies in Argentina, where church run orphanages/adoption services run by priests/nuns re-homed the stolen children from government dissenters on behalf of the government:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22064929

"The election of Pope Francis has thrown a spotlight on his conduct as a priest under Argentina's military dictatorship in the late 70s and early 80s, and in particular at what point he found out about one of the country's most shameful episodes. ...But there is another story that demands answers - the supremely toxic affair of "disappeared" pregnant women, who gave birth to their children while being held in detention centres. Most of the mothers were murdered and their children handed on to "deserving" couples who were well connected with Argentina's brutal military junta.

This is very much a live political issue. A number of the children have discovered the painful truth about their past, while hundreds more still remain blissfully ignorant of their parentage. The campaigning grandmothers assert that many priests and nuns were complicit in what happened and are still at large in society. They show no sign of letting the matter rest.

The stories of missing children were not kept under wraps in Argentina during military rule. Estela showed me French, Brazilian and Canadian press reports from 1979, which carried out detailed investigations into the phenomenon. There were reports in the English-speaking Buenos Aires Herald, a publication which incurred the wrath of the ruling military junta.

....There is TV archive footage of the campaigning mothers and grandmothers from 1979, in silent procession in the Plaza de Mayo, in the very heart of the city of Buenos Aires, holding up pictures of their missing loved ones. They spoke out to foreign news crews about their families, courageous acts which at one stage ended up with General Galtieri´s regime firing rubber bullets at the women to try and evict them from the square.

The Society of Jesus is an international order with nearly 20,000 priests worldwide. News is circulated widely among the various provinces, so if Father Bergoglio did not learn about any of this until 1985, as he said under oath in court, it appears he was leading quite an insulated existence.

In 1998, Bergoglio was made archbishop of Buenos Aires, effectively the titular head of the Argentine Catholic Church and in 2001 he was made a cardinal.

Ten years later, in the 2011 court hearing into the cases of missing children, he was asked if the Church had ever held or was, at the time, currently holding, a commission of enquiry into these matters. His written reply reads as follows: "I don't know if the hierarchy had such a body during the military dictatorship. It's possible that a lay group of the faithful of a religious congregation set something like that up or is currently doing it. I don't know."

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/former-argentinian-dictator-says-he-told-catholic-church-of-disappeared-1.542154

[SUNRAY]

A harlot is a harlot (is a harlot)... they will do anything for money and that's the point. Even with these scandals rocking her, she doesn't think anything will bring her down.

But down she'll come. Everything is in place, but its Jehovah that decides enough!

I really like the point about a harlot and money! Money makes the world go round, many say...Satan's world!

[retroHelen]

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/03/pope-francis-jorge-bergoglio-argentina-dirty-war.html

The Church is now denying any role with the Military Junta in Argentina in the ongoing revelations from an ex- Military junta official. However, how much they knew of what was going on and turning a blind eye is not discussed and there are on record 2000 apologies by clergy for 'mistakes' made under the junta's rule. some of the evidence will be hard to find in the secretive rule that destroyed much of it's paperwork when it was overthrown. However, other sources have revealed that some of Argentina's government detention centres were on Church owned land.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11/09/argentina-catholic-bishops-deny-ex-dictator-claim-church-played-role-in/

[Lin ASL Ebron]

Another example of the demonic influence over politics and religion. It's fascinating to hear how the Western governments treat their own citizens and then look at how they explain to school children the horrific treatment of Native Americans and other indigenous people. People believe "well, it was unfortunate that that happened to Them", fully believing that that same government (people who want to rule over others) would Never Treat Us like that. Somehow, rich nation citizens really believe that "we're better because we live here".

Worshiping Jehovah enables us to see things as they really are, warts and all. This clarity makes serving Jehovah and His many promises that much more sweeter. Jehovah will bring tribulation on all those causing tribulation for other humans, even raising from death those who have been killed unjustly.

[Dustparticle]

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/03/pope-francis-jorge-bergoglio-argentina-dirty-war.html

The Church is now denying any role with the Military Junta in Argentina in the ongoing revelations from an ex- Military junta official. However, how much they knew of what was going on and turning a blind eye is not discussed and there are on record 2000 apologies by clergy for 'mistakes' made under the junta's rule. some of the evidence will be hard to find in the secretive rule that destroyed much of it's paperwork when it was overthrown. However, other sources have revealed that some of Argentina's government detention centres were on Church owned land.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11/09/argentina-catholic-bishops-deny-ex-dictator-claim-church-played-role-in/

How can they deny when people were seeing priests blessing the dungeons where they torture the children?

[retroHelen]

Last year, after other countries were exposed Chile, was also exposed for similar behaviour:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/15/chile-catholic-priests-investigated-stolen-babies

 

"The Catholic church in Chile is under investigation over allegations that priests played a central role in a network that stole newborn babies from single mothers.

 

Police investigators are now probing dozens of cases in which unmarried women who became pregnant were pressured by priests to give up their child for adoption. Those who refused were anaesthetised during delivery and, upon awakening, told that the child had died. The healthy babies were hidden from their biological mothers and given away in order to be raised by married couples in "traditional" Catholic families."

 

Church leaders now admit they have known about the network for at least 10 years. Most of the cases now being investigated date from the 1970s and 1980s, but some were reported in 2005...In a series of online articles, the collective's reporters tracked down and documented an underground network of wealthy families, gynaecologists, social workers, lawyers and, at the heart of the scheme, Gerardo Joannon, a gregarious and popular priest.

 

Church officials then announced that Joannon has been ordered to refrain from speaking further about the cases, which investigators now believe involves six Santiago-area hospitals. Several other priests are alleged to have been involved in the scheme, but have not been named....

 

"They had funerals with empty caskets. ...Asked about the ethics and honesty of holding funeral services for newborn children who in fact were alive, Joannon told reporters from Ciper, "I never held a funeral mass … these were masses where thanks were given to God for that day in which the young woman made such a tremendous sacrifice."Pressed with evidence by parents that funeral services were indeed held, Joannon then said he was "sure that [the baby] was dead. The doctor told me [the baby] was dead."

 

A website for victims has logged dozens of alleged cases. Some of the inquiries come from parents looking for their children and others from children looking for their parents.

Edited October 13, 2015 by retroHelen

[outwalkin]

I recently watched a movie about this in Ireland. Based on a true story. "Philomena".

[Trina]

Yes, terrible situation and this has happened all over the world. i believe that the church has had to pay money compensation for many situations where they committed similar crimes in the past, maybe this will be the eating of fleshy parts described in the bible. When there is no money it will stop functioning.