Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Shawnster]

7 hours ago, Ahuvah said:

That's why it needs to be from Jehovah,  if it's his time Mr. Trump and cohorts won't have a choice.

 

Exactly. Which shows that all these links to various world events and wondering if these are any indication how close we are to the end (especially in comparison to news events from previous weeks , previous years, or previous decades) is really pointless. Jehovah will put it into their hearts when he puts it into their hearts. He's not waiting on the right moment or right leader. 

[chuck83]

12 hours ago, Dark King said:

With artificial intelligence, It'd be very easy to figure who is obeying Caesar and who is not.

If they go crypto (digital dollar + private ledger) + AI and making the US a cashless society. Cash transactions and under the table work goes out the window. Unless trading becomes a thing? No way out. You’d account for every penny. 

[Dark King]

10 hours ago, Shawnster said:

18 hours ago, Ahuvah said:

That's why it needs to be from Jehovah,  if it's his time Mr. Trump and cohorts won't have a choice.

 

Exactly. Which shows that all these links to various world events and wondering if these are any indication how close we are to the end (especially in comparison to news events from previous weeks , previous years, or previous decades) is really pointless. Jehovah will put it into their hearts when he puts it into their hearts. He's not waiting on the right moment or right leader. 

I respectfully disagree my brother. I don't think paying attention to world events is pointless. 

 

I think paying attention to world events show some of us solid evidence proof that Satan the devil and His wicked spirit co-rulers and his human co-rulers are completely incompetent and has ruined the human race almost to no repair. It give us  the proof that Satan is a liar. He and mankind cannot rule mankind.

 

I think that's the point the reason why the friends post these things. And can use these news 📰 🗞️ events to show non witnesses we have proof that this world 🌎 is corrupt and beyond repair by the current rulers.

 

We are just posting and/or archiving evidence this scripture is true and pointing it out to each other. So we can testify actually.             See below 👇🏾 Scripture. 

 

(Ecclesiastes 8:9) 9 All of this I have seen, and I applied my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, during the time that man has dominated man to his harm.

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&pub=nwtsty&srctype=wol&bible=21008009&srcid=share

 

[Shawnster]

33 minutes ago, Dark King said:

I respectfully disagree my brother. I don't think paying attention to world events is pointless. 

 

You're obc not alone in how you feel. 

 

I agree it's important to be aware of current events. The organization sets the example. Israel goes to war and the featured article on the website is about will Armageddon be fought in the Middle East. Texas suffers a massive flood and the website features an article on natural disasters. We are encouraged to use current events in our ministry. 

 

But tell me this. We have 412 pages of discussions agonizing and dissecting every major news event. The focus on the actions of the President of the United States is intense. Tell me, what is the example our organization sets in this regard? Do we have such detailed website articles or Watchtower articles or videos that display this level of intensity in regards current events? 

 

Does keeping on the watch mean it is necessary to focus this intensely on the news? Is that what the Slave tells us? 

 

Does Jehovah need to wait for the right president or the right world conditions to implant his one thought or can he do so at any moment he chooses? 

[Dark King]

29 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Does keeping on the watch mean it is necessary to focus this intensely on the news? Is that what the Slave tells us? 

 

Does Jehovah need to wait for the right president or the right world conditions to implant his one thought or can he do so at any moment he chooses? 

You right sometimes we go a little overboard with our analyzing the news. For some us it's helpful but it's understandable for some it's not. Personally I be more careful what I post 📯 so I'm not overwhelming anyone. And thank you for the counsel. 

 

Acts 17:31 says Jehovah has set a day so that day was probably set in the beginning of Satan, Adam and Eve rebellion, and now Jehovah is just sitting back and watching and waiting for the our clock to come to an end. There's another scripture that's Jehovah said he will speed things up in his time. So when I say he's just watching and waiting I know he's in control. So Jehovah knows who's will be the Kings of the Earth at the time of the end. We just don't know. And or guesses who will be in the end.

 

(Acts 17:31) 31 Because he has set a day on which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has provided a guarantee to all men by resurrecting him from the dead.”

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&pub=nwtsty&srctype=wol&bible=44017031&srcid=share

 

(Isaiah 60:22) 22 The little one will become a thousand

And the small one a mighty nation.

I myself, Jehovah, will speed it up in its own time.”

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&pub=nwtsty&srctype=wol&bible=23060022&srcid=share

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Dark King

[Ahuvah]

3 hours ago, Dark King said:

I respectfully disagree my brother. I don't think paying attention to world events is pointless. 

 

I think paying attention to world events show some of us solid evidence proof that Satan the devil and His wicked spirit co-rulers and his human co-rulers are completely incompetent and has ruined the human race almost to no repair. It give us  the proof that Satan is a liar. He and mankind cannot rule mankind.

 

I think that's the point the reason why the friends post these things. And can use these news 📰 🗞️ events to show non witnesses we have proof that this world 🌎 is corrupt and beyond repair by the current rulers.

 

We are just posting and/or archiving evidence this scripture is true and pointing it out to each other. So we can testify actually.             See below 👇🏾 Scripture. 

 

(Ecclesiastes 8:9) 9 All of this I have seen, and I applied my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, during the time that man has dominated man to his harm.

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&pub=nwtsty&srctype=wol&bible=21008009&srcid=share

 

 And, respectfully, Shawn isn't saying we shouldn't watch world events, or not to use them pinpoint to the prophecies in scripture. 

 

It's an undeniable fact though, that outcome immediately in front of us, is whether we are at the point of Jehovah stepping in. Because no matter who is in power, as pointed out, they want to keep that power.

 

For ALL the Kings to give their power to the UN as in Rev 17:17, it can only be by Jehovah’s hand, as these nations will stay proud and in opposition to Jehovah to the very end. 

Edited 18 hours ago by Ahuvah

[Dhanyel]

China, North Korea and Russia represent biggest security challenge since World War II, Japan says

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/16/asia/japan-defense-white-paper-china-russia-north-korea-intl-hnk-ml

“The existing order of world peace is being seriously challenged, and Japan finds itself in the most severe and complex security environment of the post-war era,” ... 

[ChrisC]

8 hours ago, Shawnster said:

 

You're obc not alone in how you feel. 

 

I agree it's important to be aware of current events. The organization sets the example. Israel goes to war and the featured article on the website is about will Armageddon be fought in the Middle East. Texas suffers a massive flood and the website features an article on natural disasters. We are encouraged to use current events in our ministry. 

 

But tell me this. We have 412 pages of discussions agonizing and dissecting every major news event. The focus on the actions of the President of the United States is intense. Tell me, what is the example our organization sets in this regard? Do we have such detailed website articles or Watchtower articles or videos that display this level of intensity in regards current events? 

 

Does keeping on the watch mean it is necessary to focus this intensely on the news? Is that what the Slave tells us? 

 

Does Jehovah need to wait for the right president or the right world conditions to implant his one thought or can he do so at any moment he chooses? 

 

An ex-C.O. here once said that he mostly ignores the news but ‘just gets a newspaper once a week’, for the sake of the ministry.

It seemed like a good balance.

[cme]

lord help us.  We all have opinions.  We are all watching and waiting.  Some are more zealous than others.  Some have more to say than others.  Others might be a little to strict?

 

None of us think alike.  We are all different with different ideas, input and opinions.

 

We all know that we are on the threshold of the GT and, we are excited to see our deliverance getting near.

 

Leave it at that.