Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[truce]

1 minute ago, JennyM said:

 

This is from our publication. Book of Daniel.      

Yes, it happened during the First World War, during the Second World War, and continues to happen to this day. 

[truce]

Maybe at this point, we need to weigh in the thoughts of the other more experienced brothers on this forum. I really want to know: Can we say emphatically that Daniel 11:27,28 has already been fulfilled, or is it more appropriate to say that it is in the course of fulfillment? I am open to being corrected. 

[Dages]

27 minutes ago, truce said:

Maybe at this point, we need to weigh in the thoughts of the other more experienced brothers on this forum. I really want to know: Can we say emphatically that Daniel 11:27,28 has already been fulfilled, or is it more appropriate to say that it is in the course of fulfillment? I am open to being corrected. 

so far, our last article on this (2020) links it to WWI and that's logical. It's done.
 

[Andrey]

“As regards these two kings, their heart will be inclined to do what is bad, and they will sit at one table speaking lies to each other. But nothing will succeed, because the end is yet for the time appointed. (Daniel 11:27)

 

What about Jehovah’s people? They had long declared that “the appointed times of the nations” would end in 1914. (Luke 21:24) In that year, God’s Kingdom in the hands of King David’s Heir, Jesus Christ, was established in the heavens. (2 Samuel 7:12-16; Luke 22:28, 29) As far back as March 1880, the Watch Tower magazine linked the rule of God’s Kingdom with the ending of “the appointed times of the nations,” or “the times of the Gentiles.” (King James Version) (Pay Attention to Daniel’s Prophecy! p. 260-261, The Rival Kings Enter the 20th Century) https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101999035#h=13

 

“At the time appointed he [the king of the north] will go back,” the angel foretold, “and he will actually come against the south; but it will not prove to be at the last the same as at the first.” (Daniel 11:29) God’s “time appointed” to end Gentile domination of the earth came in 1914 when he set up the heavenly Kingdom. (Pay Attention to Daniel’s Prophecy! p. 261-262, The Rival Kings Enter the 20th Century) https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101999035#h=15

Edited May 19 by Andrey

[IceBreeze]

2 hours ago, truce said:

Even during the time of Hitler and Winston Churchill, such lies have continued to be spoken with the signing of certain treaties, and it continues on to this day. 

Thanks.

Edited May 19 by IceBreeze

[Andrey]

“As regards these two kings, their heart will be inclined to do what is bad, and they will sit at one table speaking lies to each other. But nothing will succeed, because the end is yet for the time appointed. (Daniel 11:27)

 

25. “And both these kings’ hearts shall be to do mis chief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.” (Daniel 11:27) In 1914 Jehovah enthroned his King, Christ Jesus, and sent him forth to rule while the enemy still held on to his power. In A.D. 1914“ the king of the north” included Germany, Austria and Italy, with the Vatican riding on all of them as religious adviser and dictator; the so-called “Dreibund” at all times had the blessing of the pope. And in that same year, 1914, the British Empire set up a Protectorate over Egypt, and therefore represented the interest of Egypt and stood for “the king of the south”. The British Empire was supported by its ally, the United States of America. For a brief space Italy followed her father’s practice of deception and lined up with the British Empire, expecting to gain some benefit therefrom; but in 1922 Mussolini seized the power and again Italy returned to the fold of its father, the chief of demons, and became the ally of and associate with the Vatican. Mark this, that "both of these kings’ claim to be Christian, that is, to follow Christ, but their hearts are exactly in the opposite direction, that is, their motive and purpose is bent on ruling in opposition to Christ, the King of The Theocracy. Hence, their course of action or claim is hypocritical and deceptive.

 

26. Their “hearts shall be to do mischief”. This part of the prophecy translated by Rotherham reads: “Their heart will be set on acting wickedly.” They are set on acting contrary to the Almighty God Jehovah and his Theocratic Government by Christ Jesus; hence their course of action is wicked. While claiming to be Christian, if they ever were, they both have forgotten God. Their course of action ignores the Theocratic rule by Christ Jesus the King, and they act in defiance of Almighty God, devising their own wicked schemes for world domination. The schemes of these two kings clash with each other, and both are against The Theocratic Government. Those two “kings”, that is, “of the north” and “of the south”, do not look to Jehovah and his kingdom for which Christ Jesus had commanded all of his followers to pray, but each has his heart set on world control under demonism; and since the determination is to rule or ruin, those kings set about to destroy each other, so that "the nations are angry and God’s wrath is come". (Rev. 11:18) They both prepare in advance for their destructive work.

 

27. “And they shall speak lies at one table.” Both of these kings resort to tactics of their father to cover up their real selfish purposes. Both practice diplomacy, which is usually deceptive, and which is particularly made manifest by the Axis powers in recent years. By that is meant that the Axis powers promise one thing and do the very opposite. But the chief lie in which both kings engage is this: By their course of action both deny that Jehovah God is the Supreme One, the Owner of the earth, and that He has appointed and anointed His beloved Son as the Ruler of the earth. Contrary to God’s purpose, both of these kings attempt to set up a rule of their own to control the earth, and both indulge in speaking falsehoods, claim to be Christian and yet denying God and Christ. They speak lies, of which their father the Devil is the past master and author. Looking back a few years before the World War, both of these kings were members of the Hague Court of International Arbitration and claimed to be, and presumably were, for peace. But they were not for the “peace of God”, most assuredly. As workers of lawlessness they“ speak peace to their neighbours, but mischief is in their hearts”. (Ps. 28:3) While claiming to be for peace, outwardly both were arming, and about the time of the coming of Christ Jesus both of these kings, under the direction of their father, the chief of demons, began a war with each other.

 

28. The prophecy identifies themas “at one table”, where they sit and diplomatically speak flattering and peaceful words. They sit at what table? Certainly not the table of Jehovah; because all of His ways are truth and righteousness, and not even a “shadow of turning” from the truth is at his table. (Ps. 33: 4; Jas. 1:17) It must be, therefore, that both kings sit "at the table", which table is provided because the Devil is the father of fraud, deception and lies, and both kings sitting at the table, as the prophecy declares, “speak lies.” No one can sit at Jehovah’s table and partake of the things thereof, and at the same time partake of the Devil’ s provender. “Ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.” (1 Cor. 10: 21) The Devil’s table is the table of demon religion, filled with nauseating provender. The clergy, who are the spiritual advisers, have become intoxicated on the Devil’s wine, and says Jehovah: “But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment. For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.”— Isa. 28:7, 8.

 

29. Both “the king of the north” and “the king of the south” have false notions as to the kingdom of God, and their blindness is due to the teachings of their spiritual advisers, the religious clergy. Both kings are sparring and fighting for a position of advantage concerning world domination. Both of such kings are bent on ruling the earth contrary to the purpose of Jehovah God, and are therefore in agreement on one thing, to wit, that they are both opposed to the wit nesses of Jehovah who proclaim the name of the great Theocrat and of his Theocratic Government by Christ Jesus.

 

30. Furthermore, both of those kings think to “change times and laws” to suit their own conven ience and schemes. (Dan. 7: 25) For some time prior to 1918 the Lord had caused his truth of and con cerning his government of righteousness to be pro claimed throughout the realms of those two “kings”, making known that the Gentile times were about to end and that the time for the coming and setting up of The Theocratic Government under Christ was at hand. Both “the king of the north” and “the king of the south” ignored that message and went on selfishly working at their own schemes to rule the world. While sitting at the same table and using words concerning the arbitration and settlement of all world disputes by the Hague Court, both were using all their means to prepare for a deadly conflict that the successful one might rule the earth as desired and contrary to God’s appointed way of rule. But how about the success of such schemes for world domina tion? Shall the same prosper? The prophecy gives the answer.

 

40. Faithful servants of the Lord, and hence sincere students of God’s Word, will pursue the remainder of Daniel’s prophecy with keenest interest and with real joy, because it seems clearly to be Jehovah’s time for them to have an understanding thereof.

 

The Watchtower. September 15, 1941. DEMON RULE ENDING. PART 1. "The END shall he at the time appointed.” — Dan. 11:27. p. 275-283.

[Dustparticle]

After the Iranian president  helicopter crash, this news shows up. Major things are happening in that area. https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-saudi-arabia-near-potentially-123841713.html

[Sofia]

1 hour ago, Dustparticle said:

After the Iranian president  helicopter crash, this news shows up. Major things are happening in that area. https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-saudi-arabia-near-potentially-123841713.html

My spine shivers with all these happenings

the consequences upon KOTN if Iran president dies… are unpredictable 

If Putin is superstitious as believed he will do more to protect himself from a coup d etat or atempt against him or his regime 

[Dustparticle]

4 minutes ago, Sofia said:

My spine shivers with all these happenings

the consequences upon KOTN if Iran president dies… are unpredictable 

If Putin is superstitious as believed he will do more to protect himself from a coup d etat or atempt against him or his regime 

You right sis, plus this can make things worse too.

[Richie]

1 hour ago, Dustparticle said:

After the Iranian president  helicopter crash, this news shows up. Major things are happening in that area. https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-saudi-arabia-near-potentially-123841713.html

Expect the unexpected.... The same with Bible prophecies. Let see more details to come. 

[Richie]

26 minutes ago, Sofia said:

My spine shivers with all these happenings

the consequences upon KOTN if Iran president dies… are unpredictable 

If Putin is superstitious as believed he will do more to protect himself from a coup d etat or atempt against him or his regime 

One of the wings of the KOTN is now broken. It looks like KOTN will dive from its cruising flight.

[Richie]

1 hour ago, Dustparticle said:

After the Iranian president  helicopter crash, this news shows up. Major things are happening in that area. https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-saudi-arabia-near-potentially-123841713.html

It is so noticeable. A lot of remarkable global happenings in 2024... Hopefully, GT is next. We are so well prepared whatever the consequnce. Just look after the disaster (HOPE) that is how Jehovah strengthen us today.

[Sofia]

[JennyM]

 

[Dustparticle]

He is dead https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/raisi-iran-president-helicopter-crash-05-20-24/index.html

[Richie]

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/raisi-iran-president-helicopter-crash-05-20-24/index.html

 

Iran's President Raisi has died in a helicopter crash. 

 

Let see how this incident changes the course of KOTN heading.

 

 

[JennyM]

25 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

He is dead https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/raisi-iran-president-helicopter-crash-05-20-24/index.html

He can be replaced and system of Iran will continue.

[Richie]

4 minutes ago, JennyM said:

He can be replaced and system of Iran will continue.

So far nobody can tell. Either the new guy will track the same way or will go in different direction. So far, people of Iran will vote for the new president. We knew in the past that most voters change their preference. 

[Dustparticle]

12 minutes ago, JennyM said:

He can be replaced and system of Iran will continue.

 True, yet by a monster?

[Andrey]

2 hours ago, Dustparticle said:

He is dead https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/raisi-iran-president-helicopter-crash-05-20-24/index.html

 

Acts 24:15

[Sofia]

3 hours ago, Dustparticle said:

 True, yet by a monster?

They killed the monsters… Raisi was supposed to replace Khomeni soon since he s 85

Raisi was a cleric as well

[JennyM]

On 5/19/2024 at 6:42 PM, Richie said:

Yes, we are now "In the time of the end"... while verse 27 just indicates the coming of the period of the end.

Annual quoted this when they identified that Russia and its allies are the KOTN. DAniel 11:40-43. 

[Dustparticle]

56 minutes ago, JennyM said:

Annual quoted this when they identified that Russia and its allies are the KOTN. DAniel 11:40-43. 

 

 I think the main focus now is in verse 40-43. This is the period we live in.

[Richie]

 

ICC announces applications for arrest warrants for Israel PM. 

 

A lot of big news this year... 

[chuck83]

Amal Clooney Among Legal Experts Recommending War Crimes Charges in Israel-Hamas War
https://time.com/6980318/amal-clooney-legal-experts-israel-hamas-war/

 

France backs ICC after prosecutor seeks arrest warrants for Israel's Netanyahu

https://www.reuters.com/world/france-backs-icc-after-prosecutor-seeks-arrest-warrants-israels-netanyahu-2024-05-21/

 

US lashes out after Israeli officials targeted with arrest warrants (Including... Biden, Speaker Johnson, and other conservatives.)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-lashes-israeli-officials-targeted-211416314.html

 

So France broke from the West in support of the ICC and I bet George Clooney is hating life right now. Things are changing rapidly and daily. Satan and Jehovah are moving their pieces on the game board.