Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Roxessence]

“I don't think there's one human alive that can fully understand the scope of Jehovah's love for such people, and I really don't think that any human can fully understand how things will play out once peace and security is announced, and the events that are to follow start to unfold. 

 

I really believe that there will be quite a few extraordinarily grateful people who survive into the new system.”

 

No truer words, my brother.  🤗🤗   Thank you for sharing those beautiful thoughts!
 

Edited Thursday at 02:23 PM by Roxessence
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[Dages]

1 hour ago, ChrisW said:

no matter how much they hated the witnesses or the witnesses teachings, we all shared fond memories of the truth and some of the people in the truth. 

We love Jehovah and the people. This feeling stays, even after decades away. There is always this little something... Jehovah is still here, one way or another, ready for the hug.

[New World Explorer]

23 hours ago, Ahuvah said:

Right now, they are too divided for Rev 17:17 to be fulfilled,  however, ironically, this could be the very situation Jehovah can quickly flip too. 

We have be warned and informed about sudden changes and not to be surprised when something happens suddenly and there is no gradual development prior to that... so...? Anything is possible to occur anytime. 

[LeolaRootStew]

23 hours ago, Ahuvah said:

That's where we wait until we see something more definitive. Right now, they are too divided for Rev 17:17 to be fulfilled,  however, ironically, this could be the very situation Jehovah can quickly flip too. 

Choccy Almond anyone? Oops I mean just an almond ... I've sucked all the chocolate off.

 

They could also just be lying to the cameras while they make deals behind the scenes. I think Trump would love to take credit for the cry of peace to make his Presidency "the best ever".

[Sofia]

United Nations were set in place by USA and Soviet Union working together 

Now we see again USA and Russia working together. Will they now together give powers to UN?

Keep on the watch 

[Cool.As.Ice]

12 minutes ago, Sofia said:

United Nations were set in place by USA and Soviet Union working together 

Now we see again USA and Russia working together. Will they now together give powers to UN?

Keep on the watch 

I have my doubts, those two have been like oil and water for the longest time. Even during WWII when both took down Nazi Germany, they were only looking after their own interests, and soon that’s how the Cold War started.

 

OTOH: When the nations act, they will be carrying out God’s thought. Leads me to believe that both of these kings will feel BTG harms their interests in some way. Haven’t seen that talk yet, but the potential is there.

 

 

[Ahuvah]

39 minutes ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

 

 

OTOH: When the nations act, they will be carrying out God’s thought. Leads me to believe that both of these kings will feel BTG harms their interests in some way. Haven’t seen that talk yet, but the potential is there.

 

 

It's ALL the Kings not just both Kings. Never forgetting that USA is still in cahoots with the UK until the end.

 

59 minutes ago, Sofia said:

United Nations were set in place by USA and Soviet Union working together 

Now we see again USA and Russia working together. Will they now together give powers to UN?

Keep on the watch 

Only if Jehovah empowers them and as above, it's not limited to them, even if it's mainly them making the most noise now.

[Áine]

1 hour ago, Sofia said:

United Nations were set in place by USA and Soviet Union working together 

Now we see again USA and Russia working together. Will they now together give powers to UN?

Keep on the watch 

Yes exactly this…. Never did we expect them to talk to each other like this and to appear to be working together in order to get peace, this in itself will make this peace ( if they get it) very different

 

 They also are striving for peace in the Middle East… 

 

Next week they meet in Saudi in order to broker peace and sign deals….  

[Cool.As.Ice]

Zelenskyy has repeatedly said he won’t accept peace deals without Ukrainian involvement, also that he worked not accept any deals favorable to Russia. He also wants security guarantees from KotS, but Trump so far has been unwilling to budge.

 

 And KotN is dead set on subduing Ukraine. So there are some significant hurdles here.

 

 Israel will not tolerate Hamas in power and they’re determined to defeat them. Hamas is committed to the destruction of Israel. 
 

If these crises were resolved, people might think that we’ve achieved peace. But then what about other places, like Myanmar’s civil war?

 

The P&S is a global cry. Seems there are still more steps to take here.

[Sofia]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/pause-us-foreign-aid-has-un-panic-over-funding-cuts-trump-says-world-body-not-being-well-run

interesting 🤔 

[Cool.As.Ice]

The cuts are already having an effect:

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/un-slashes-support-rohingya-refugees-indonesia-due-us-cuts-sources-say-2025-03-06/

[Dages]

Daniel 11 ending has the KotS in the background, it's mostly about the KotN.

That's may be related to the current US behavior, isn't it?

[New World Explorer]

President Trump issued a public warning to the Hamas terror group Wednesday that he is “sending Israel everything it needs to finish the job” and urged them to release all remaining hostages immediately “OR THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY LATER!”

“‘Shalom Hamas’ means Hello and Goodbye – You can choose,” the president wrote on Truth Social after meeting with eight freed hostages in the Oval Office Wednesday.

“Release all of the Hostages now, not later, and immediately return all of the dead bodies of the people you murdered, or it is OVER for you. Only sick and twisted people keep bodies, and you are sick and twisted!”https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/global-affairs/donald-trump-issues-last-warning-to-hamas-says-terror-group-can-choose-outcome-after-meeting-with-freed-israeli-hostages/news-story/c04b891de862ec2e0e6ce7e836cae05f

 

Asked what further actions the US could take if Hamas does not release the remaining hostages, Trump told reporters on Thursday, “You’re going to find out” but added that “somebody’s going to have to get a lot rougher than they’re getting.”

“Well you’re going to find out,” the president said. “I put out a statement, it’s sort of self-explanatory, I think. But somebody’s going to have to get a lot rougher than they’re getting. It’s a shame.”https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-administration-presidency-news-03-06-25/index.html

Edited Friday at 02:08 AM by New World Explorer

[New World Explorer]

2 hours ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

But then what about other places, like Myanmar’s civil war?

 

The P&S is a global cry. Seems there are still more steps to take here.

People have often narrow minded view of matters, and what does not impact them personally they do not care...

I can tell you if you ask average Australian if he is concerned about the war in Myanmar, then the answer would be like ..what's that? is this a country? where is it? (generally speaking) 

But in contrast to Ukraine and Gaza most people know about it. 

 

[ethancgrant]

13 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

People have often narrow minded view of matters, and what does not impact them personally they do not care...

I can tell you if you ask average Australian if he is concerned about the war in Myanmar, then the answer would be like ..what's that? is this a country? where is it? (generally speaking) 

But in contrast to Ukraine and Gaza most people know about it. 

 

Considering the UN is aimed for global peace keeping, if thr UN gets restored… Would that not be part of a global decloration of peace and security?

[Cool.As.Ice]

14 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

People have often narrow minded view of matters, and what does not impact them personally they do not care

Point taken; Sad, but true.

[Ahuvah]

1 hour ago, ethancgrant said:

Considering the UN is aimed for global peace keeping, if thr UN gets restored… Would that not be part of a global decloration of peace and security?

I think it will be. I think the people will see it as an answer. Theycare scared. We will see. 

Edited Friday at 03:41 AM by Ahuvah

[Mike047]

Sadly the deeper the fracture in human society, the further people are from each other. So if you and I were still part of the system we would easily drift apart. The U and I in the word 'United' would appear further apart, too so United becomes Untied. Could the land become the Untied States?

[Timl1980]

1 hour ago, Mike047 said:

Sadly the deeper the fracture in human society, the further people are from each other

 

Completely agree with you, and we are seeing this play out live more and more wherever we live. 

 

I've been meditating on this over the past week or so, when Jesus said you shall know my disciples by the love that they show among themselves...we applied that scripture in so many different ways, not just in general love, but in different nuances of true Christian love that differentiates Jehovah's people from any other religious group on the face of the planet. 

 

But now, now I am starting to see that differentiation in a new way, an unexpected way, at least unexpected for me. I have always thought that, when push comes to show, nationalism would unite people in a way that few other things could, and from what I've seen in the past, this is always held true for the most part. 

 

But now I'm starting to see Daniel's prophecy about the clay and the iron in a different way. I know hatred of Jehovah's people will ultimately bring the coalition against us, but I am starting to see more and more fear and hatred being openly manifested in ways that I think most people would have kept private, or to themselves, even just a couple of years ago. 

 

In contrast, I see more of Jehovah's people banding together. Even though we have minor issues with each other and sometimes even with our shepherds, the simple truth is, we are quite literally the only people on the face of the planet who are actually trying to serve Jehovah. 

 

When it comes right down to brass tacks, every other little petty difference we have can and will be pushed aside...because each of us can look at our fellow brothers and sisters and see that one simple fact. 

 

The world pushes that aside, they view us as weak and pathetic. Satan has trained them, especially in these last days, to idolize anything that is grandiose, anything that garners the most attention. 

 

We don't want attention, our very existence as Jehovah's people is to push all attention towards him, and that's why I feel a large portion of people dismiss us and make fun of us. 

 

The simple truth is, we don't know how all of this is going to shake out. We can view all the things going on around us, and we can try to piece things together...but one of the things we know for absolute certain is: true Christian love is 

on full display for the entire world to see...and that's one reason why TRUE neutrality is so important...it is something only Jehovah's people can truly claim.

[Mike047]

Well written, Tim.

[Sofia]

10 hours ago, Dages said:

Daniel 11 ending has the KotS in the background, it's mostly about the KotN.

That's may be related to the current US behavior, isn't it?

There s little more KOTN will do to fullfill that prophecy before Armageddon 

dan. 11:40-45 focus on the KOTN acts in the world scenario. Specifically after 1990/1. ( Russia replaced URSS).

the acts of the KOTS in the final part of the last days were detailed in

Dan. 8:24,25

rev.13:14-17

Rev.19:20

[Dages]

2 hours ago, Sofia said:

There s little more KOTN will do to fullfill that prophecy before Armageddon 

dan. 11:40-45 focus on the KOTN acts in the world scenario. Specifically after 1990/1. ( Russia replaced URSS).

the acts of the KOTS in the final part of the last days were detailed in

Dan. 8:24,25

rev.13:14-17

Rev.19:20

Yes.

 

[LeolaRootStew]

11 hours ago, ethancgrant said:

Considering the UN is aimed for global peace keeping, if thr UN gets restored… Would that not be part of a global decloration of peace and security?

 

The cry of peace doesn't need to be real; but even if it were real, it doesn't need to be world-wide. The Ukrainian War of Independence was fought from 1917-1921. When WWI ended in 1918 Ukraine was still fighting, yet here is what the newspapers declared anyway:

 

 

 

[Dages]

 

Are the Polish friends OK? 🥺 

[Dustparticle]

 

 And Trump is after Russia: https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-administration-presidency-news-03-07-25#cm7ynng7z000x3b6mnhon281t