Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Ahuvah]

23 hours ago, chuck83 said:

 

With the utmost respect and love, all I'm going to say is this:
 

Isaiah 55:8;9 - Jehovah's thoughts and ways are higher than ours. PERIOD.
1 Samual 16:7 - He sees the heart, we see actions. PERIOD.

Genesis 3:3-5 - We were not meant to decide GOOD or BAD and RIGHT or WRONG.

 

I'd worry about my own salvation and if I have minor children. Otherwise, not any of my concern.

Of course it's our concern. But it's nothing we can act on. Which is the difference. It's very much my concern if my children return. I love them and miss them soo  much. But I love Jehovah first, and while I know that they are safe in his hands, depending on their heart condition, it's still a concern.  When a child moves from being a minor to a major (...... use your imagination here .... ) especially if they were baptized ... they were not only fleshly family, they were spiritual family too.  My heart is only being held together by Jehovah’s golden glue. 

 

So, yes it's a concern, and it was a good question thoughtful question. If we only looked out for our own salvation, then preaching may as well stop. Because those lost, whether inactive, removed or just never took the truth, are more precious to us and to Jehovah,  because they once knew him.

Edited 15 hours ago by Ahuvah

[Ahuvah]

5 hours ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

Is there anybody here from Israel who can give us some information?

Probably would be good to keep the flow of information to a minimum, to keep our family safe.

 

EDIT: Just read John's post 😂 😄 🤣 

 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by Ahuvah

[mjcabz]

Let's just wait info from our organization, sure they will give us an update so that we can continue pray and support for our brothers and sisters there.

[cme]

6 hours ago, Ahuvah said:

Of course it's our concern. But it's nothing we can act on. Which is the difference. It's very much my concern if my children return. I love them and miss them soo  much. But I love Jehovah first, and while I know that they are safe in his hands, depending on their heart condition, it's still a concern.  When a child moves from being a minor to a major (...... use your imagination here .... ) especially if they were baptized ... they were not only fleshly family, they were spiritual family too.  My heart is only being held together by Jehovah’s golden glue. 

 

So, yes it's a concern, and it was a good question thoughtful question. If we only looked out for our own salvation, then preaching may as well stop. Because those lost, whether inactive, removed or just never took the truth, are more precious to us and to Jehovah,  because they once knew him.

Amanda, I have 2 daughters that know the Truth.  They never got baptized but, were raised in the Truth.  They went their own way.

 

It hurts me.  There is not a night that I do not put my head on the pillow and shed a tear or two.  But, here's the thing.

 

Jehovah will take care of this situation.  They are in good hands.  Better than ours sis.  Jehovah knows their hearts and they might come back as the GT starts to unfold.  Pray for them.  We can worry ourselves to death.  Not healthy.  Give them into Jehovah's hands and continue your work.

 

Stay faithful.

[cme]

12 hours ago, Dhanyel said:

Why is it difficult to find an Israeli? 

Because they are in there Bunkers.    They are truly.  I know friends in Israel and they are safe.

[chuck83]

12 hours ago, Ahuvah said:

Of course it's our concern. But it's nothing we can act on. Which is the difference. It's very much my concern if my children return. I love them and miss them soo  much. But I love Jehovah first, and while I know that they are safe in his hands, depending on their heart condition, it's still a concern.  When a child moves from being a minor to a major (...... use your imagination here .... ) especially if they were baptized ... they were not only fleshly family, they were spiritual family too.  My heart is only being held together by Jehovah’s golden glue. 

 

So, yes it's a concern, and it was a good question thoughtful question. If we only looked out for our own salvation, then preaching may as well stop. Because those lost, whether inactive, removed or just never took the truth, are more precious to us and to Jehovah,  because they once knew him.

You’re absolutely right, love makes it impossible not to care. My heart aches with you. I’ve prayed for many who’ve drifted, and like you, I hope Jehovah brings them home.

 

That said, I think there’s a difference between being emotionally concerned for someone we love and speculating about whether Jehovah will include or exclude them in the end. That part really isn’t ours to decide.

 

Just like you said, it’s Jehovah holding your heart together, that’s beautiful. And that’s why I trust Him to judge with mercy, justice, and perfect timing. Whether it’s our kids, family, or even someone removed, He sees far beyond what we ever could.

 

So yes... we care. But we don’t call the shots. And I find peace in that.

Edited 3 hours ago by chuck83

[Cool.As.Ice]

Okay, I’m just going to say it, straight up:

 

There are times when I want to do much more than just pray. When you see your friends getting tortured and persecuted, and killed, it eats away at your soul and makes you want to take a rifle and go after any enemy in sight. At least for those who aren’t Christians anyway.

 

Even for Christians, though, especially those who served in the armed forces, or were policemen, martial artists, and so forth; or people like me with a very strong sense of justice, and who are hawkish and like to take action now, it takes a great deal of restraint not to retaliate against enemies that hurt the people whom you love.

 

There are people here always telling me to “wait on Jehovah” or “just pray”, or whatever. But it’s really hard to hold back and apply that advice, especially when you see your family in danger, and you feel helpless to do anything.

 

Maybe what I’m saying is wrong, but it’s how I feel; that is the simple truth.

 

However, I also know, that as things escalate towards the end, we’ll no doubt see more things that tear at our heartstrings.

 

But, whenever I feel my temper rising at the injustices out here, this scripture helps a lot:

 

(James 1:20) 20 for man’s anger does not bring about God’s righteousness.
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&pub=nwtsty&srctype=wol&bible=59001020&srcid=share

 

With that said, nowadays I try not to get too emotionally involved with what’s going on, because I know, and am fully aware that Jehovah has a plan, and He will execute it in His time, which is rapidly approaching. Only He can execute true justice. Waiting on him for all this time has been the hard part, at least for me.

 

That’s all I have to say about that.

Edited 3 hours ago by Cool.As.Ice

[Jwanon]

2 hours ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

There are times when I want to do much more than just pray. When you see your friends getting tortured and persecuted, and killed, it eats away at your soul and makes you want to take a rifle and go after any enemy in sight. At least for those who aren’t Christians anyway.

 

Maybe what can help is the fact that these very Christians are being helped by Jehovah himself. Jehovah takes care of them, as we can read in the very encouraging testimonies of our brothers in Russia on the website

[Ahuvah]

2 hours ago, chuck83 said:

You’re absolutely right, love makes it impossible not to care. My heart aches with you. I’ve prayed for many who’ve drifted, and like you, I hope Jehovah brings them home.

 

That said, I think there’s a difference between being emotionally concerned for someone we love and speculating about whether Jehovah will include or exclude them in the end. That part really isn’t ours to decide.

 

Just like you said, it’s Jehovah holding your heart together, that’s beautiful. And that’s why I trust Him to judge with mercy, justice, and perfect timing. Whether it’s our kids, family, or even someone removed, He sees far beyond what we ever could.

 

So yes... we care. But we don’t call the shots. And I find peace in that.

That's loverly.