Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Sofia]

1 hour ago, Dustparticle said:

China is having economic problems as well. KOTN (Russia and China) are having problems. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stocks-sink-as-china-woes-spark-global-sell-off-stock-market-news-today-200121136.html

China is officially in Deflation  !!  If that reaches us in the west ... the whole World economy will colapse. There wont be any money to buy things; corporations wont sell their products; people will lose their jobs; another 1929-type crisis only... worldwide with no end in sight.

Yes, GT will be unprecedented. The world situation is comming to an end.

[Dustparticle]

1 hour ago, Sofia said:

China is officially in Deflation  !!  If that reaches us in the west ... the whole World economy will colapse. There wont be any money to buy things; corporations wont sell their products; people will lose their jobs; another 1929-type crisis only... worldwide with no end in sight.

Yes, GT will be unprecedented. The world situation is comming to an end.

No matter what happens, the Anglo-American power will be intact when the end comes.

[Sofia]

1 hour ago, Sofia said:

China is officially in Deflation  !!  If that reaches us in the west ... the whole World economy will colapse. There wont be any money to buy things; corporations wont sell their products; people will lose their jobs; another 1929-type crisis only... worldwide with no end in sight.

Yes, GT will be unprecedented. The world situation is comming to an end.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/business/china-economy-trade-deflation.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&state=default&module=styln-china&variant=show&region=MAIN_CONTENT_1&block=storyline_top_links_recirc

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/15/business/china-economy-downturn-unemployment.html  Just on time. If you cant read it check here: 

What China Isn’t Telling the World About Its Economy - The New York Times.pdf

Edited August 16, 2023 by Sofia

[Dhanyel]

When they lack money due to the world crisis that is collapsing, they found a supposed way out, that is to take all the wealth of Babylon the Great, believing that everything will be fine. It will be a big trap they can't escape, they won't be able to control what comes next. 

[New World Explorer]

7 hours ago, Sofia said:

There wont be any money to buy things; corporations wont sell their products; people will lose their jobs; another 1929-type crisis only... worldwide with no end in sight.

And yet, GT is triggered by proclamation of Peace and Security.

 

That will be the foretold proclamation of “peace and security.” Why will world leaders say that? Will religious leaders participate? Possibly. Nevertheless, the proclamation will be just another demon-inspired lie. But this lie will be especially dangerous because it will give people a false sense of security just before the greatest tribulation in human history begins. W19
However, the announcement of “peace and security” that the Bible describes will be different. Why? When this happens, people may think that world leaders have succeeded in making the world a safer, more secure place. But in reality, “sudden destruction” will follow as the “great tribulation” unfolds.W19
 

[JennyM]

7 hours ago, Sofia said:

China is officially in Deflation  !!  If that reaches us in the west ... the whole World economy will colapse. There wont be any money to buy things; corporations wont sell their products; people will lose their jobs; another 1929-type crisis only... worldwide with no end in sight.

Yes, GT will be unprecedented. The world situation is comming to an end.

The world is always on the brink of destruction but the angels in revelation are holding that wind of destruction until the sealing of anointed ones. Preaching and making disciples are urgent. 

[JennyM]

1 minute ago, New World Explorer said:

And yet, GT is triggered by proclamation of Peace and Security.

 

That will be the foretold proclamation of “peace and security.” Why will world leaders say that? Will religious leaders participate? Possibly. Nevertheless, the proclamation will be just another demon-inspired lie. But this lie will be especially dangerous because it will give people a false sense of security just before the greatest tribulation in human history begins. W19
However, the announcement of “peace and security” that the Bible describes will be different. Why? When this happens, people may think that world leaders have succeeded in making the world a safer, more secure place. But in reality, “sudden destruction” will follow as the “great tribulation” unfolds.W19
 

The greatest lie because they cant solve all problems and perhaps they might be thinking of nuclear war at that point so Jehovah will intervene quickly. 

[New World Explorer]

The Russian rouble has fallen to its lowest value in 16 months, falling past 100 per US dollar.

The decline comes as pressure grows on the Russian economy, with imports rising faster than exports and military spending growing for the Ukraine war.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-66496736

[New World Explorer]

An intercepted phone call between a Russian soldier and his mother suggests that Russia plans to continue its attack on Ukraine for at least the next three years.

 

"Basically, what they're telling us is that this crazy situation is here to stay until ’26. Russia's going to be 'reclaiming territories'," he said.https://www.kyivpost.com/post/20384#:~:text=An intercepted phone call between,territories'%2C" he said.

[JennyM]

11 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

An intercepted phone call between a Russian soldier and his mother suggests that Russia plans to continue its attack on Ukraine for at least the next three years.

 

"Basically, what they're telling us is that this crazy situation is here to stay until ’26. Russia's going to be 'reclaiming territories'," he said.https://www.kyivpost.com/post/20384#:~:text=An intercepted phone call between,territories'%2C" he said.

 he will enter into the lands and sweep through like a flood    Daniel 11:40 

 

And he will keep thrusting out his hand against the lands      Daniel 11:42

 

[Sofia]

24 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

An intercepted phone call between a Russian soldier and his mother suggests that Russia plans to continue its attack on Ukraine for at least the next three years.

 

"Basically, what they're telling us is that this crazy situation is here to stay until ’26. Russia's going to be 'reclaiming territories'," he said.https://www.kyivpost.com/post/20384#:~:text=An intercepted phone call between,territories'%2C" he said.

What Russia wants and how the western coalition will react are two different things. Time will tell if western allies run out of amunitions / resorces BEFORE 3 years. Putin´s regime can fall. Many factors involved. Most of all: Jehovah. If He wants to bring armagedom on that time, He will act. He wont be late. 

[Dhanyel]

Reading all that you write my brothers, the world really is like a derailed train and without brakes very close to collapse!

[vern]

Funny.

 

Currancy means nothing for the basics of resources being the same amount avaiable to share.

 

Poeple can.t buy food but its available and not scarce.

 

If that makes sense.

[New World Explorer]

Here is bit more about China. (economic problems) 

 

[JennyM]

4 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

Here is bit more about China. (economic problems) 

 

If this is happening to china, which became global power in economy, then what will happen to developing  country like my country. 

[Dustparticle]

2 hours ago, JennyM said:

If this is happening to china, which became global power in economy, then what will happen to developing  country like my country. 

That is the whole point. China has NOT become the global power in economy. They want to, but the Anglo-American power has been for a longtime and it will remain that way until the end comes. 

[JennyM]

@Dustparticle One of the global power in the economy. 

[Dustparticle]

19 minutes ago, JennyM said:

@Dustparticle One of the global power in the economy. 

True, for the past 25 years or so they want to be the top one , yet they always failed. They want to be that superpower and according to the Bible it will not happen. Capital-Communism does not work and the world as a whole will not except it. It is out dated.

[cme]

This does not belong in this forum but, I don't know where the thread is.  Not too many days ago I asked for help on a bible student that has been studying for about 11 years.

 

Elders gave me 2 chapters to study with her and she has gone to the elders to be an unbaptized publisher.  It was the mid-week meeting work book.....Live forever. 

 

Can anyone direct me back to it? 

 

I am thrilled!! Thank you friends!!

[coolbrz731]

9 hours ago, Dustparticle said:

True, for the past 25 years or so they want to be the top one , yet they always failed. They want to be that superpower and according to the Bible it will not happen. Capital-Communism does not work and the world as a whole will not except it. It is out dated.

My son and daughter have a gaming term that sums up what China is doing.  "Try hard".  They're trying to force superpower status instead of just letting it happen, and as a result, their effort end up in failure.  It also reminds me of when the bible says the King of the North will have no helper.  China is putting itself in a position where it will be unable to help Russia, who is the current KOTN.  

[Dustparticle]

11 minutes ago, coolbrz731 said:

My son and daughter have a gaming term that sums up what China is doing.  "Try hard".  They're trying to force superpower status instead of just letting it happen, and as a result, their effort end up in failure.  It also reminds me of when the bible says the King of the North will have no helper.  China is putting itself in a position where it will be unable to help Russia, who is the current KOTN.  

Russia and China are allies, hence both are KOTN.

[coolbrz731]

4 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

Russia and China are allies, hence both are KOTN.

I thought that, but I noticed that I never heard the organization mention China when they talked about the KOTN.  

[Dustparticle]

16 minutes ago, coolbrz731 said:

I thought that, but I noticed that I never heard the organization mention China when they talked about the KOTN.  

They have mentioned Russia and its allies are the KOTN. May 2020 WT 

 

⁹ In recent years, Russia and its allies have also entered into “the land of the Decoration.” How? In 2017, this current king of the north banned the work of Jehovah’s people and threw some of our brothers and sisters into prison. He also banned our publications, including the New World Translation. Further, he confiscated our branch office in Russia as well as Kingdom Halls and Assembly Halls. After these actions, in 2018 the Governing Body identified Russia and its allies as the king of the north. However, even when Jehovah’s people are severely persecuted, they refuse to participate in any action to subvert or change human governments. Rather, they follow the Bible’s counsel to pray for “all those who are in high positions,” especially when such ones are making decisions that could affect freedom of worship.—1 Tim. 2:1, 2.

Edited August 17, 2023 by Dustparticle

[JennyM]

Netherland enters recession.

[Sofia]

Opinion article: https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/the-recession-is-delayed-but-not-derailed-david-rosenberg-1.1960238.amp.html