New energy source of the future.

[Percy]

This shows real innovation in recycling what we think we cannot use.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewdepaula/2012/11/08/teens-create-a-way-to-use-urine-as-fuel/?sh=1cd95b0b558c

PC

[Precision]

 

Combustible Methane Ice  Discovered in the 1970’s

 

Currently undeveloped and being researched as a major global energy source, Natural methane gas hydrates, worlds largest known fossil fuel Source, exceeding 200 million cubic meters, equivalent to excede twice the amount of all known coal, oil and Natural gas in the world. 

 

https://www.irowater.com/major-global-energy-source-in-the-future/  

Edited February 7, 2023 by Precision

[Dustparticle]

Look at the Fire Flies, they use cold energy. It will be a good help in the NW. Ps.104:24

[Percy]

4 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

Look at the Fire Flies

How many do you need to keep you warm? haha.

[Percy]

1 hour ago, Precision said:

Natural methane gas hydrates

This was probably what Jehovah used on the Egyptians to get them to release the Israelites.

(Exodus 9:24) "There was hail, and there was fire flashing in the midst of the hail. . . ."

Percy

 

[Precision]

 

 

Methane considered a greenhouse contaminating gas contributes significantly to global warming. 

 

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/space-imagery-reveals-methane-pouring-from-the-us-russia-daily-2022-2 

[Percy]

2 hours ago, Precision said:

Methane considered a greenhouse contaminating gas contributes significantly to global warming. 

 

This is from the decomposition of what the Flood left behind in the Arctic.

[AH173]

7 hours ago, Percy said:

How many do you need to keep you warm? haha.

Nice joke. But I don't the light they give off is not heat generated. 

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201006/The-Cold-Light-of-the-Firefly/

[Witness1970]

Methane Gas released into the atmosphere is a potent greenhouse gas.  Burning Methane, or any other hydrocarbon, releases CO2 into the air.  Fuels releasing CO2 into the air also include burning wood.  Wood is considered a renewable energy source, but old trees absorb Carbon from the air which is released as Carbon Dioxide when burned.

 

 

[Witness1970]

 

 

Burning hydrocarbons causes carbon dioxide (CO2) buildup in the air.  Human governments and large corporations are ruining the earth.  Burning coal, oil, natural gas, and LPG all add large amounts of CO2. 

Some people think of wood as a renewable resource since more trees can be grown keeping a fresh supply of wood to burn.  As a tree grows, it stores carbon dioxide. When wood is burned that same carbon dioxide is sent back into the atmosphere.

There are various energy sources that can be used without adding carbon dioxide to the air.  These include solar, wind, and others.  There are also many ways of storing energy.

In the past, I have studied alternate energy.  Solar panels (Photovoltaic cells) are often one of the first things mentioned as alternate energy.

There are different ways that solar panels can be set up.  One is to use Solar panels tied to the grid.  The power generated reduces the usage from the power company.  When excess power is generated, the electric meter turns backward and you get a credit on your bill. These systems will save you money, but you would be in the dark if the power goes out.

One alternative is to have a system with battery backup.  When the power goes out, your system has to switch over so that the power does not feed back into the lines of the power company. Some linemen working on the lines expect the power to be off and might get a surprise if the power feeds back from the solar panels.

The cost of solar panels is about $2.00 per watt.  Panels to produce 5 KW (5,000 watts) of power would cost $10,000.00. Deep cycle Batteries for such a system would also cost a few thousand.  You could end up with a $15,000.00 investment.

To reduce the requirement for solar panels, windmills could be used to provide some of the power.  

Heating and air conditioning are about 46% of the total electric bill.  If this part is taken away from the electrical requirements, a lot of money can be saved.  Refrigerators can use 18% to 20% of the power bill.  A water heater uses 17% of the total power bill.

It is easily possible to provide heat in the wintertime.  

All you need is a large storage tank that could hold the hot water. The tank could be buried in the ground, or installed in a basement.  Copper tubing coils circulating through the hot water tank would act as a heat exchanger heating the water in the coils.  The copper coils could then circulate into the house.

A couple of things that have been suggested are to have a rock bed that is heated by a solar collector or simply tubing in the ground.  The rock bed could be encased in a concrete tank.  Air from the house would blow through the solar collector and rock bed, heating the rock bed to use the heat later The heated air blowing through the solar collector or rock bed would then be used to heat the house. Likewise, the inground tubing could also circulate through the ground to gain heat in the winter or cool off in the summer.  The tubing is usually 3 or 4 feet in the ground depending on climate and soil type, These could be retrofitted to an existing house with some work

One popular way of heating houses today is to run PEX pipe through the flooring.  This provides a gentle heating of the floor which goes throughout the house.  This type of heating has been used on all types of floors.  I have seen concrete poured right on top of the PEX piping system with no problems.  If the floor is to be nailed down the PEX pipe would have to be protected so as not to drive a nail into it. (This hot water could also be used for domestic hot water for showering and washing, etc.)  

Cooling a house is a little more complicated.  Normal air conditioners work by compressing gas (it used to be freon) to raise the temperature, sending it through a heat exchanger to cool it off, then dropping the pressure which cools the gas even more, and then using the cold gas to cool the house by going through an air handler.  Retrofitting such a system in an existing house would mean extensive flooring changes.

The same thing can be done with solar heating instead of electricity.  A mixture of water and a "refrigerant" would be used.  Ammonia or Lithium Bromide are often used as refrigerants.  (Care should be used when using ammonia since it can be poisonous if used improperly.)

The water and "refrigerant" mixture is heated to boiling point which builds pressure.  The vapor goes into another tank where the mixture is cooled enough to allow the water to condense.  The "refrigerant" then goes through a heat exchanger at ambient temperature to cool it, and through a pressure drop which causes further cooling.  Another heat exchanger can be used in an air handler to blow cool air into the house. (The same could be done with refrigerators.  A small room could be built in as part of the house and have 2 compartments for refrigeration and freezing.)  

Getting the mixture to boiling point may require a way of concentrating solar energy.  A parabolic reflector could be used but would have to be redirected during the day.  A linear parabolic reflector (parabolic in 2 dimensions like a trough) could be used without so much repositioning.

(Someone came up with the idea of a curved reflector that would concentrate the heat on a pipe without repositioning.  The solar radiation would bounce around the inside of the curve finally reaching the pipe that needs to be heated. Could the curve be a Fibonacci so often found in nature?)

According to the numbers I mentioned earlier, with these heating and air conditioning ideas we could get rid of about 80% of our power bill which would reduce the number of solar panels needed and also reduce the battery requirements.  Is there a way to reduce the battery requirements even further?

All methods of energy storage have a certain amount of inefficiency.  This is acceptable since the goal is to store energy for later use.

How about a “cuckoo generator?”  Just like the weights on a cuckoo clock that drives both the clock mechanism and the cuckoo bird, weights could be used to drive an alternator or generator to produce electricity.  You could crank the weights up and then let gravity do its work from there.  Why not turn it from a gravity generator into a gravity battery?  The way this is done is to use electricity from your solar panels or windmills to raise the weights.  The weights could then drive the alternator to provide power as needed, either at night or when there is very little wind.

Another storage idea would be to use the excess electricity to produce Hydrogen.  Hydrogen production is said to be 70 to 80% efficient.  DC is applied to 2 electrodes: Hydrogen is generated at the negative post and Oxygen is produced at the positive post.  If it is desirable to separate the Hydrogen and Oxygen, a baffle between the 2 posts could direct the Hydrogen and Oxygen into separate chambers.  (Oxygen does not burn, but will cause any flame to burn much hotter than normal.)  If the Hydrogen and Oxygen are not separated the resultant gas is referred to as HHO gas.  HHO gas would require a larger storage capacity than pure Hydrogen.

When I worked in the chemical plant, we used two different methods to store Hydrogen. When the plant was built it had storage containers for Hydrogen as a vapor.  A delivery (tank) truck would come about once a week.  They would connect the truck outlet to the inlet for our tanks.  The Hydrogen would be sent into our tanks as a vapor which could be used in our system.

The frequent deliveries prompted the company to install a large Liquid Hydrogen tank.  Liquid Hydrogen has to be stored at -423 degrees Fahrenheit.  The gas would be vaporized before it was fed into our system.

A hydrogen fuel cell could be used to produce electricity as needed.  Hydrogen fuel cells can also be used to power vehicles.  (We can call these Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles or FCEV for short.)  These use a reverse electrolysis process to combine Hydrogen from the tank with the ambient Oxygen from the atmosphere.  The result is water.  Water is what comes out of the tailpipe.

There are already Hydrogen vehicles available.  The problem is that no one wants to buy a Hydrogen powered car because there is no way to stop and refill the Hydrogen tank.  Service Stations do not want to add the infrastructure to supply Hydrogen, because there are very few vehicles using the technology. It is sort of a chicken or egg problem.

Another problem with Hydrogen-powered vehicles is that the Hydrogen tanks tend to be large and therefore Hydrogen-powered vehicles are usually larger cars.  Also, it would be a bad idea to keep a vehicle with a tank of Hydrogen inside a garage.  If there is a leak the Hydrogen needs a way to escape.  Hydrogen is 14 times lighter than air, so the Hydrogen gas would go straight up.  

I don't foresee any of these things happening anytime soon.  The earth will continue to be ruined by man.  God's Kingdom will "bring to ruin those ruining the earth" as Revelation 11:18 says.
 

[Lewis]

1 hour ago, Witness1970 said:

Methane Gas released into the atmosphere is a potent greenhouse gas.  Burning Methane, or any other hydrocarbon, releases CO2 into the air.  Fuels releasing CO2 into the air also include burning wood.  Wood is considered a renewable energy source, but old trees absorb Carbon from the air which is released as Carbon Dioxide when burned.

 

 

 

There is about approx 5000 GT of methane stored in the permafrost in the Arctic, just need 15 GT more to be released in the atmosphere to end human civilization according to Natalia Sharkova who is one of the leading scientist and studies methane in the arctic. Very potent gas indeed. 

Edited February 7, 2023 by Lewis

[Lewis]

At the 8 minute mark, Dr Shakhova speaking about Methane release.

 

 

Edited February 7, 2023 by Lewis

[Witness1970]

1 hour ago, Lewis said:

There is about approx 5000 GT of methane stored in the permafrost in the Arctic, just need 15 GT more to be released in the atmosphere to end human civilization according to Natalia Sharkova who is one of the leading scientist and studies methane in the arctic. Very potent gas indeed.

Actually, I am aware that Methane is a far more potent greenhouse gas than CO2.  It is self-sustaining problem. Even swamps that dry up expose biomaterials that bacteria act on and produce Methane.  The only thing that can be done is to reduce the CO2 and Methane that are being released today and stop the destruction of the rainforest that is going on.  That way the rainforest can be removing the CO2.

Edited February 7, 2023 by Witness1970