JahisKing

I definitely agree. I'm learning that if such conversations cause you to exhibit any other fruitage than that of Gods spirit that there's only one other spirit that you could be reflecting. I appreciate unity not conformity. At that same time bickering, strife, anger (even slight) leaves room for the Devil. I'm certainly not perfect however the standard is set---neturality. We are engaged in a spiritual war. Satan would love us to be distracted to creep in to overtake us if only for a few moments so that our defenses are down and he can creep in just a little. Being short sighted about these matters IMO is missing the point entirely for a Christian....myself included. We strive to be are no part of the world in all matters. Satan uses this type of distraction as a Trojan horse of some sort. Its a no win taking any the side of but the kingdom.

I'll be sure to pay more than the usual attention to those points at mines tonight. Thank you for accepting my apology. Agape

I will say this... If you have trouble understanding why people are angry (I'm not referencing the rioting) it's because this cop shot this kid in the back. At that point was it self defense? Why shoot to kill in the first place? Being a cop comes with risks..that's what they sign up for. I'm personally disturbed at the recent beatings and shootings of minorities in cases where loss of life IMO was unnecessary. How Jesus tell us to handle these situations? ( I'm speaking from both perspectives) I think that race relations is a very sensitive issue to most who live everyday watching their riverview mirror in fear and/or anxiety . The experiences that this brother related in this thread is very common. We need Jesus. We need the kingdom. We need to help others to see that they need Jesus and the kingdom. That's how I keep my sanity. Agape

However making comments about individuals "pulling the race card" or that somehow that boy's death was caused by a lack of parenting is inflammatory and offensive IMO. How could you possibly know how these parents raised their child? Our kids are certainly not perfect. Would you say that in a FS car group or at the workplace without any repercussions ? I don't think so. I'm all for discussing current events with the perspective of talking about the kingdom. This is a Christian forum. There are other forums in which race relations, police brutality (or lack there of) , social reforms and political implications of such unfortunate occurrences are discussed. The news sites are flooded with such comments. And yes the kingdom will take care of everything. Which may include resurrecting this "thug" or "hoodlum" that you may end up studying with. I'm frustrated with this situation as well but perspective is everything. That's all I'm saying and that you should consider the feelings of others. What's wrong with neutrality? Or at least trying to be neutral ? Agape

Hi, OK I officially need to work more on being so quick tempered. I'm very sorry sister. Alot of times when Im posting in distracted by something or someone. This forum thing is new for me and I'm experiencing a bit of a learning curve. Thank you for your patience and kindness and I apologize for being..... well a jerk lol I am going to make a commitment to read more carefully and if (or when ) I am offended take a time out and come back. Guess which fruitage of the spirit that I've been working on.....for forever :rolleyes: I sincerely apologize. Agape

What's weird about it? You are reading too much into this I assure you. I will not quote anymore of your posts if you do not wish me too. If you are trying to ascertain how I personally feel about the situation you are wasting your time. I will not be baited into a discussion that I believe as Christians we should be neutral on. If you want to discuss how to help others get through this ordeal... Then you have my attention. I apologize if I caused offense by partially quoting you. I think it's better to focus on things we agree on in this matter...the kingdom as the only solution to this problem. Agape

Amen brother! I would add that We must also strive to see others (and situations) as Jehovah sees them. We understand why these things are happening there are so many do not. We have been armed with the Good news to offer relief....to everyone.

I find many of these comments( and the likes) to be insensitive and offensive for a number of reasons. We shouldn't take sides because we were not there. Accusing others of using the "race card" or insinuating that this woman who son was killed was in the wrong somehow is outrageous. Our children are not perfect despite giving them the best start. If anything we should remain neutral and be willing to open our hearts and feel empathy for both sides. Let the world deal with their Race wars, riots, bickering, finger pointing ...we should just preach the good news to those moaning and groaning over these detestable things. That's whether it's the grief stricken family who lost their child or the grief stricken family of the cop whose life is forever changed. That's the kind, loving and might I add... neighborly thing to do.

How so?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ashya-kings-father-says-hell-4256798 If the press is NOW slandering this brother.... Then I'm pretty sure we should expect another YouTube video soon. The press has now quoted the son AND the father saying that blood transfusions are acceptable. If they are miquoting or out right lying on this family... I smell a lawsuit . I'm pretty neutral and I won't be villified because I share a different opinion. Starvo's initial instinct /comment in this thread IMO was spot on. The "facts" are still coming in. Should you trust the Media? Not all the time. Are they all liars? No. Many are credible. Unless you believe that only reports that you may personally view as "negative" or "unfavorable" are not credible. We all can use our God given abilities to reason and sort through the rubbish. If what the media is reporting is true... I expect them to sensationalize this story to a whole new level. Nonetheless, I share the sentiments of all here who believe that whatever the case is... Much prayer is needed to strengthen the family , congregation and all here who are obviously affected by this story.

Judgment goes both ways.(positive or negative) Judgment is not always negative or damning as you believe I have implied. I think the earlier comments in this thread before the "facts" started trickling in is a testament to that. You are free to discard my "judgement " or opinion as not worth 2 cents as the cyber paper its written on. My opinion probably differs from yours. We can just leave it at that.

I guess my opinion differs from everyone on this thread. I'm trying not to pass judgment either way but after reading various news stories after this broke IMO they seem to be willing to ANYTHING to save their son. "When they operated on him two months ago, we agreed to them doing blood transfusions but thankfully it wasn’t necessary." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/11067254/Ashya-Kings-brother-defends-parents-actions-as-couple-await-court-ruling-in-Spain.html It seems that there's no need for a liason committee

I think it's admirable that the Pope is apologizing and committing to change the church's past practices. (These victims were harmed either directly or indirectly by the policies their leaders had in place) It's a start and I'm sure that it will be well received by those victims and their families who have chosen the path of forgiveness.

Entirely possible lol (Myself included) Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Very nice summary and inclusive of everything that were are unified on. Sometimes we focus so much on our slight differences we neglect to take note of the things we are in full agreement on. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk