Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[LeolaRootStew]

18 minutes ago, vern said:

Interesting question will be. Can baylon the great be taken out with strong conservative Christian organizations in politics.  I can see ungodly divisions now that hate the christian influence. I guess to be expected with the waters drying up.  And the goats manifesting.

 

If Christians believed that the churches had been infiltrated by a force like the deep state they might support "destroying" it in order to remove the bad elements.

[New World Explorer]

3 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

 

If Christians believed that the churches had been infiltrated by a force like the deep state they might support "destroying" it in order to remove the bad elements.

Just remember that BTG is not limited to churches in Christendom, it encompasses all religions and organisations including all continents. Only Jehovah’s power can destroy such vast empire of false religion (of course using UN as a tool) If “Christians” support such destruction then what about Asia and religion there …what about Islam? What about Orthodox religions everywhere… ? And the list continues…. Only Jehovah can do this. Soon we are going to eyewitness amazing events. 

[pnutts]

Every nation on earth is having major problems now. From city to provincial/state to federal governments and Proverbs describes many of these problems

Proverbs 10: 6b, 9b, 11b, 12a, 17b, 18b, 19a, 20b, 23a; 11: 6b, 12a, 16b, 18a, 20a, 23b,26a, etc.

To top it all off are Proverbs chapters 28 & 29

(Proverbs 28:12, 13) . . .But when the wicked rise to power, people go into hiding. 13 The one covering over his transgressions will not succeed,. . .

(Proverbs 29:2) . . .But when the wicked one rules, the people groan.

(Proverbs 29:8) . . .Boastful men inflame a town,. . .

(Proverbs 29:9) . . .When a wise man enters into a controversy with a fool, There will be ranting and ridicule, but no satisfaction.

 

(Proverbs 29:12) . . .When a ruler pays attention to lies, All his servants will be wicked.

(Proverbs 29:15, 16) . . .But a child left unrestrained brings shame on his mother. 16 When the wicked increase, transgression increases,. . .

(Proverbs 29:21, 22) . . .If a servant is pampered from his youth, He will become thankless later on. 22 A man prone to anger stirs up strife; Anyone disposed to rage commits many transgressions. . .

(Proverbs 29:24) . . .The partner of a thief hates himself. He may hear the call to testify, but he reports nothing. . .🙉🙊

 

(Proverbs 29:27) . . .An unjust man is detestable to the righteous, But the one whose way is upright is detestable to the wicked one.

 

Every nation on earth!!!

 

More nations recently are becoming more authoritarian seems someone is counting and it is several dozen.😱

 

[jps]

14 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

Just remember that BTG is not limited to churches in Christendom, it encompasses all religions and organisations including all continents. Only Jehovah’s power can destroy such vast empire of false religion (of course using UN as a tool) If “Christians” support such destruction then what about Asia and religion there …what about Islam? What about Orthodox religions everywhere… ? And the list continues…. Only Jehovah can do this. Soon we are going to eyewitness amazing events. 

 

i wonder how the ban of religion will be enforced against primitive tribes/civilizations like aborigins and alike

[Ysaias]

16 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

Soon we are going to eyewitness amazing events. 

Bring 'em on!

 

Edited February 23 by Ysaias
Correct a word.

[Áine]

We really are privileged to have a seat in the front row… we know the script and the ending but now we get to see how it all plays out 

[LeolaRootStew]

18 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

Just remember that BTG is not limited to churches in Christendom, it encompasses all religions and organisations including all continents. Only Jehovah’s power can destroy such vast empire of false religion (of course using UN as a tool) If “Christians” support such destruction then what about Asia and religion there …what about Islam? What about Orthodox religions everywhere… ? And the list continues…. Only Jehovah can do this. Soon we are going to eyewitness amazing events. 

 

I only mentioned Christians because you did. There is a secret religion that actually exists whose stated goal is to infiltrate all other religions to destroy them from the inside. Imagine if Jehovah put a paranoia of that scenario into all people and their natural response was to destroy them. 

 

We have no idea what the inciting reason will be to destroy religion, but it will be interesting to watch.

Edited February 24 by LeolaRootStew

[just1-4all]

On 2/21/2025 at 3:46 PM, Ahuvah said:

Hello ❤️ 

Because it's through politics as a collective, with initially religion in the mix that is the main ingredient that Jehovah will use to bring about the GT and the cry of P& S. There is a vast difference between stating facts (and headlines aren't necessarily facts, they could be red hearings, propaganda or downright lies) than supporting political factions. Sadly, they exist, and so we can't wish them away right now, but we can watch them as they enter the corridor of their demise. 

We certainly all know the admonition to keep neutral—taking any political stance on any topic betrays true neutrality. The nation's "controversies" are not our fight (as we know)—it's between them and God for their not looking to him for the solutions. (Jeremiah 25:31; Micah 4:3)

 

So what is politics? Great question and a great topic to explore and define!

 

I've got my own answer which I feel harmonizes with Jehovah's view and scripture. Answer that question for yourself and you will know in your mind and heart exactly what we should be steering away from, whether in this forum or in any other interaction with our spiritual family. Knowing what politics is may even help with our ministry as well.

Edited February 24 by just1-4all
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[Shannie]

[Ahuvah]

2 hours ago, just1-4all said:

We certainly all know the admonition to keep neutral—taking any political stance on any topic betrays true neutrality. The nation's "controversies" are not our fight (as we know)—it's between them and God for their not looking to him for the solutions. (Jeremiah 25:31; Micah 4:3)

 

So what is politics? Great question and a great topic to explore and define!

 

I've got my own answer which I feel harmonizes with Jehovah's view and scripture. Answer that question for yourself and you will know in your mind and heart exactly what we should be steering away from, whether in this forum or in any other interaction with our spiritual family. Knowing what politics is may even help with our ministry as well.

Exactly my thoughts too.

[Cool.As.Ice]

4 hours ago, Áine said:

We really are privileged to have a seat in the front row… we know the script and the ending but now we get to see how it all plays out 

I’m personally ready for this whole clown show to end already.

[New World Explorer]

5 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

We have no idea what the inciting reason will be to destroy religion

Well, this is good enough for me ... 

For God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, yes, to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished Rev 17:17 (can't wait for this to unfold) 

[Ahuvah]

56 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

Well, this is good enough for me ... 

For God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, yes, to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished Rev 17:17 (can't wait for this to unfold) 

My new favourite scripture 

[LeolaRootStew]

7 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

Well, this is good enough for me ... 

For God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, yes, to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished Rev 17:17 (can't wait for this to unfold) 

 

That scripture is talking about giving power to the UN. We still don't know why the nations will decide to destroy religion - what reasoning they will use - regardless of the source.

[Shawnster]

16 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

There is a secret religion that actually exists whose stated goal is to infiltrate all other religions to destroy them from the inside. 

What?

[ChrisW]

13 hours ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

I’m personally ready for this whole clown show to end already.

Great way to put it.  It is definitely a circus and the clowns have taken over.

[ChrisW]

17 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

There is a secret religion that actually exists whose stated goal is to infiltrate all other religions to destroy them from the inside

I actually asked ChatGPT this. This is what I got....

 

There is no widely recognized or legitimate religion whose stated goal is to infiltrate and destroy other religions. What you're describing sounds more like a conspiracy theory or a fictional narrative. Many conspiracy theories can create myths about secret groups with nefarious goals, but they tend to be based on unverified claims and are not rooted in reality.

 

But if you know of a specific religion, I'd like to know.

[computerwiz]

5 minutes ago, ChrisW said:

I actually asked ChatGPT this. This is what I got....

 

There is no widely recognized or legitimate religion whose stated goal is to infiltrate and destroy other religions. What you're describing sounds more like a conspiracy theory or a fictional narrative. Many conspiracy theories can create myths about secret groups with nefarious goals, but they tend to be based on unverified claims and are not rooted in reality.

 

That's because it's a secret!  🤫

[Mike047]

2 hours ago, Shawnster said:

There is a secret religion that actually exists whose stated goal is to infiltrate all other religions to destroy them from the inside. 

If there is, then how do you know? ( do you know the handshake?)

[Cool.As.Ice]

18 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

 

I only mentioned Christians because you did. There is a secret religion that actually exists whose stated goal is to infiltrate all other religions to destroy them from the inside. Imagine if Jehovah put a paranoia of that scenario into all people and their natural response was to destroy them. 

 

We have no idea what the inciting reason will be to destroy religion, but it will be interesting to watch.

Then please name them. I have an interest in these things and would like to investigate them.

Edited February 24 by Cool.As.Ice

[LeolaRootStew]

The religion is called Frankism. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankism

Spoiler

Frank proclaims that the Frankists' descent down the "V" ladder into the deepest humiliation is reflected in society's hatred and exclusion of them, which result from Frankism's consistent implementation of the idea that all laws and teachings of the world are only laws of the "Three Evil World Rulers" (the Pope, the Tsar, and the Sultan), and therefore do not need to be observed. In the best case, such laws and teachings need only be kept in pretense; religions and teachings of the world can be worn like an empty shell and then discarded at whim because the "true Torah" is yet to be revealed.^[18] The Mosaic Law with its Ten Commandments should be despised, as it is part of the "old Torah". The contempt for all teaching of the world culminates in a statement by Frank to his close circle of "Brothers and Sisters" that amounts to a command for total assimilation: one should adapt to the respective religion or language depending on the country.^[19] Frank also advises masked assimilation in the following passage:

Solomon was wise, wiser than all the peoples. He mixed with the nations, took the daughters of kings as his wives, but he did not get anything out of it. He could mix with the nations because he was a king. But here the whole world knows that I am descendant from Jews, that I am newly baptized and poor. But I have hope that I will mix with their society this winter, and they themselves will call me. I can tell you: whoever does not mix with the nations, all his work is in vain!^[20]

Frank was not interested in the acculturation of the Jews; rather, he wanted them to purposefully integrate into society in order to ultimately overthrow it.^[21] If the enemies of the Jews in the 18th century had been familiar with Frank's secret sectarian canon, it would have made the already hotly contested Jewish emancipation considerably more difficult.^[21]

 

Some people are popularizing the idea that the Frankists are still active; the most important thing I can say about this is that it doesn't have to be true for it to motivate the world. Just imagine that Jehovah put the thought that a people like the Frankists had infiltrated all of society. Could that be enough for them to band together to try to destroy it? Maybe. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's not impossible for Jehovah to use the paranoia of a conspiracy theory such as this so that the people "hear a report" and want to act.

 

This is just one of many possibilities for the end - please don't attack.

[Shawnster]

16 minutes ago, LeolaRootStew said:

The religion is called Frankism. 

That is freaky 

[undeserved]

25 minutes ago, LeolaRootStew said:

This is just one of many possibilities for the end - please don't attack.

This makes me sad that we should feel the need to pro actively ward off negative comments. 

[Landon1285]

20 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

 

I only mentioned Christians because you did. There is a secret religion that actually exists whose stated goal is to infiltrate all other religions to destroy them from the inside. Imagine if Jehovah put a paranoia of that scenario into all people and their natural response was to destroy them. 

 

We have no idea what the inciting reason will be to destroy religion, but it will be interesting to watch.

We're not supposed to speak about them. 😂 🤐

[Ahuvah]

On 2/23/2025 at 2:53 PM, LeolaRootStew said:

 

If Christians believed that the churches had been infiltrated by a force like the deep state they might support "destroying" it in order to remove the bad elements.

The UN destroys religion. 

 

When you think about it,it makes more sense ... since the kings give the UN their power for 'one hour' it would be easy for a single entity representing the kings of the earth to destroy BBTG. 

Edited February 24 by Ahuvah