Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Dustparticle]

3 minutes ago, jrnievas said:

 

I’m currently waiting for the Governing Body’s explanation about this specific verse, because I also noticed how it could apply to what the King of the South is doing right now..

 

 

What if this will be included in Annual Meeting on October?

 

The book of Revelation focus on the Anglo-American power.

[LeslieDean]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-cruise-missiles-hit-us-company-massive-ukraine-strike-amid-trumps-peace-push

 

'Putin mocking Trump' 

[LeslieDean]

The comments on above news post are a mixture of outrage and twisted feelings.

 

@MyLuMoo 🍁:Trump said he needed the Russia/Ukraine conflict to end in order for him to get into heaven. Putin clearly just told him to go to he// 🤣

[JennyM]

just my thought, prophecy is explained by GB when it is an ongoing fulfillment or near its fulfillment. I think we're close. 

WT has mentioned before that we dont need things to be so terrible before the end comes.  People can still mind their business , eating, drinking, marrying. 

 

This gives me hope that soon suffering will end and motivate me to prioritize God's Kingdom. 

[LeslieDean]

My depression after my husband's death 2 years ago finally cracked! For the last 2 months I have had new life breathed into me! I can speak of his death and not break down. I feel an excitement for life I have not felt in years! I know it is from seeking Jehovah's help and focusing on the things to come. For some reason the Nazi stories and our hx of underground was always the most thrilling to me. Now I hope to get that chance to hold up the way our family did!

[Cushi]

I try to be balanced with the news. I used to watch the world evening news every weekday. But for the last few months, I've been watching it once or maybe twice a week. I decided to reduce my viewing of the news because it’s always negative and full of disturbing images and stories. The brain is a powerful organ and the things you take in affect your thinking, emotional health, and actions. We may watch the news thinking the things we see and hear don't affect us but they do.

Sometimes I'll follow a particular story to see how it turns out, especially if I think there's spiritual significance.  

 

These days, I get so sick and tired of slanted news coverage. I watch and read news coverage from both left and right-leaning media outlets. I’m so tired of networks constantly bashing the opposing party, their politicians, and supporting their party and politicians no matter what, even if they are in the wrong. I need to find some neutral sources. There's very few. I hope I can because I find Reuters to be boring.

 

Edit: I mistakened page 425 for the last page and assumed it was still the current topic.

 

Edited Friday at 04:11 AM by Cushi

[Michał]

574 pages to go before the GT 😂

 

C’mon people, let’s do it!

 

PS. Please, check my math. 

Edited Friday at 09:07 AM by Michał

[Bruceq]

On 8/19/2025 at 8:15 PM, Dages said:

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-november-2025/questions-from-readers/

Note the last Scripture in the article in context:

What, then, may we expect? We need not look for news reports that governments are slowly becoming more supportive of the United Nations. What we can expect is this: With startling suddenness, Jehovah will put it into the hearts of the nations to hand over their power to the wild beast. When that happens, we will know that the great tribulation is about to begin. Meanwhile, “let us stay awake and keep our senses” because sudden changes are soon to come!—1 Thess. 5:6.

Interestingly most now criticize the U.N. for not doing its job, saying it has an outdated governance structure. That feeling increases every day as the world sinks deeper into despair and is most notable in the last two years and is even felt by the King of the South or the False Prophet that ignited the spark of the United Nations to begin with after both of the two world wars. God’s thought then would be the opposite of what the nations are currently thinking. 1 Thess. 5:6 quoted at the end of this article starts with the words ‘So, then” showing this statement of staying awake is part of the same thought in context with the saying of “Peace and Security”. Therefore, the giving of power to the United Nations is connected to the saying of Peace and Security just before the Day of Jehovah or the Great Tribulation begins!

WHEN COULD JEHOVAH THROUGH THE UNITED NATIONS GIVE THIS “ONE THOUGHT”?

• The General Assembly is the main deliberative, policymaking and representative organ of the UN. All 193 Member States of the UN are represented in the General Assembly, making it the only UN body with universal representation.  Each year, in September, the full UN membership meets in the General Assembly Hall in New York for the annual General Assembly session, and general debate, which many heads of state attend and address. Decisions on important questions, such as those on peace and security, admission of new members and budgetary matters, require a two-thirds majority of the General Assembly. Decisions on other questions are by simple majority.

The 80th session of the UN General Assembly (UNGA 80) will open on Tuesday, 9 September 2025. The first day of the high-level General Debate will be Tuesday, 23 September 2025.

General Assembly
High-level Week 2025

"Eighty years ago, from the ashes of war, the world planted a seed of hope. One Charter, one vision, one promise: that peace is possible when humanity stands together."
- António Guterres, 26 June 2025

22 September
9 am – 10 am | General Assembly Hall

High-level Meeting to Commemorate the 80th Anniversary of the United Nations

This one-hour meeting will mark the 80th anniversary of the establishment of the United Nations, with UN officials and Heads of State and Government reflecting on the achievements of the past eight decades and the path ahead for a more inclusive and responsive multilateral system.

Interestingly the special campaign of “An End to War” begins in September with the special talk on that subject the week of September 22!

[jrnievas]

1 hour ago, Bruceq said:

Note the last Scripture in the article in context:

What, then, may we expect? We need not look for news reports that governments are slowly becoming more supportive of the United Nations. What we can expect is this: With startling suddenness, Jehovah will put it into the hearts of the nations to hand over their power to the wild beast. When that happens, we will know that the great tribulation is about to begin. Meanwhile, “let us stay awake and keep our senses” because sudden changes are soon to come!—1 Thess. 5:6.

Interestingly most now criticize the U.N. for not doing its job, saying it has an outdated governance structure. That feeling increases every day as the world sinks deeper into despair and is most notable in the last two years and is even felt by the King of the South or the False Prophet that ignited the spark of the United Nations to begin with after both of the two world wars. God’s thought then would be the opposite of what the nations are currently thinking. 1 Thess. 5:6 quoted at the end of this article starts with the words ‘So, then” showing this statement of staying awake is part of the same thought in context with the saying of “Peace and Security”. Therefore, the giving of power to the United Nations is connected to the saying of Peace and Security just before the Day of Jehovah or the Great Tribulation begins!

WHEN COULD JEHOVAH THROUGH THE UNITED NATIONS GIVE THIS “ONE THOUGHT”?

• The General Assembly is the main deliberative, policymaking and representative organ of the UN. All 193 Member States of the UN are represented in the General Assembly, making it the only UN body with universal representation.  Each year, in September, the full UN membership meets in the General Assembly Hall in New York for the annual General Assembly session, and general debate, which many heads of state attend and address. Decisions on important questions, such as those on peace and security, admission of new members and budgetary matters, require a two-thirds majority of the General Assembly. Decisions on other questions are by simple majority.

The 80th session of the UN General Assembly (UNGA 80) will open on Tuesday, 9 September 2025. The first day of the high-level General Debate will be Tuesday, 23 September 2025.

General Assembly
High-level Week 2025

"Eighty years ago, from the ashes of war, the world planted a seed of hope. One Charter, one vision, one promise: that peace is possible when humanity stands together."
- António Guterres, 26 June 2025

22 September
9 am – 10 am | General Assembly Hall

High-level Meeting to Commemorate the 80th Anniversary of the United Nations

This one-hour meeting will mark the 80th anniversary of the establishment of the United Nations, with UN officials and Heads of State and Government reflecting on the achievements of the past eight decades and the path ahead for a more inclusive and responsive multilateral system.

Interestingly the special campaign of “An End to War” begins in September with the special talk on that subject the week of September 22!

Reference please, if possible.

[jrnievas]

Okay, saw it on UN's website...

[Dages]

2 hours ago, Bruceq said:

Note the last Scripture in the article in context:

What, then, may we expect? We need not look for news reports that governments are slowly becoming more supportive of the United Nations. What we can expect is this: With startling suddenness, Jehovah will put it into the hearts of the nations to hand over their power to the wild beast. When that happens, we will know that the great tribulation is about to begin. Meanwhile, “let us stay awake and keep our senses” because sudden changes are soon to come!—1 Thess. 5:6.

Interestingly most now criticize the U.N. for not doing its job, saying it has an outdated governance structure. That feeling increases every day as the world sinks deeper into despair and is most notable in the last two years and is even felt by the King of the South or the False Prophet that ignited the spark of the United Nations to begin with after both of the two world wars. God’s thought then would be the opposite of what the nations are currently thinking. 1 Thess. 5:6 quoted at the end of this article starts with the words ‘So, then” showing this statement of staying awake is part of the same thought in context with the saying of “Peace and Security”. Therefore, the giving of power to the United Nations is connected to the saying of Peace and Security just before the Day of Jehovah or the Great Tribulation begins!

WHEN COULD JEHOVAH THROUGH THE UNITED NATIONS GIVE THIS “ONE THOUGHT”?

• The General Assembly is the main deliberative, policymaking and representative organ of the UN. All 193 Member States of the UN are represented in the General Assembly, making it the only UN body with universal representation.  Each year, in September, the full UN membership meets in the General Assembly Hall in New York for the annual General Assembly session, and general debate, which many heads of state attend and address. Decisions on important questions, such as those on peace and security, admission of new members and budgetary matters, require a two-thirds majority of the General Assembly. Decisions on other questions are by simple majority.

The 80th session of the UN General Assembly (UNGA 80) will open on Tuesday, 9 September 2025. The first day of the high-level General Debate will be Tuesday, 23 September 2025.

General Assembly
High-level Week 2025

"Eighty years ago, from the ashes of war, the world planted a seed of hope. One Charter, one vision, one promise: that peace is possible when humanity stands together."
- António Guterres, 26 June 2025

22 September
9 am – 10 am | General Assembly Hall

High-level Meeting to Commemorate the 80th Anniversary of the United Nations

This one-hour meeting will mark the 80th anniversary of the establishment of the United Nations, with UN officials and Heads of State and Government reflecting on the achievements of the past eight decades and the path ahead for a more inclusive and responsive multilateral system.

Interestingly the special campaign of “An End to War” begins in September with the special talk on that subject the week of September 22!

Nothing happened to the 70 years anniversary... My hope isn't high for this one. Let me be wrong

[jrnievas]

5 minutes ago, Dages said:

Nothing happened to the 70 years anniversary... My hope isn't high for this one. Let me be wrong

If nothing's happen or we think nothing has change, it doesn't mean things aren't really change.. 

 

just saying .... hihihi...

Edited Friday at 05:43 PM by jrnievas

[Shawnster]

5 hours ago, Bruceq said:

WHEN COULD JEHOVAH THROUGH THE UNITED NATIONS GIVE THIS “ONE THOUGHT”?

 

It sounds like you are saying Jehovah will use the UN to influence world leaders to accept his one thought. I apologize if I misunderstood.

 

Jehovah is not going to give his one thought through the United Nations.  He will influence the nations directly. 

Edited Friday at 08:58 PM by Shawnster

[Bruceq]

30 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

 

It sounds like you are saying Jehovah will use the UN to influence world leaders to accept his one thought. I apologize if I misunderstood.

 

Jehovah is not going to give his one thought through the United Nations.  He will influence the nations directly. 

sorry perhaps i should have worded it: WHEN COULD JEHOVAH GIVE THIS “ONE THOUGHT” TO THE NATIONS?

That question does not mean at all that it will occur during the September meeting since the U.N. website also says: "The General Assembly can also reconvene for special or emergency special sessions to address pressing issues." 

The Watchtower also mentions: "! The prophecy shows that God himself will influence them to follow that course. (Prov. 21:1; compare Isaiah 44:28.)

Edited Friday at 09:29 PM by Bruceq

[Doug]

7 hours ago, Bruceq said:

Note the last Scripture in the article in context:

What, then, may we expect? We need not look for news reports that governments are slowly becoming more supportive of the United Nations. What we can expect is this: With startling suddenness, Jehovah will put it into the hearts of the nations to hand over their power to the wild beast. When that happens, we will know that the great tribulation is about to begin. Meanwhile, “let us stay awake and keep our senses” because sudden changes are soon to come!—1 Thess. 5:6.

 

Thank you for a well-written and highlighted post   

 

Here's a couple of thoughts:  The FDS says "We need not look for news reports that governments are slowly becoming more supportive of the United Nations".  So then, we need not look for news reports because there won't be any clues or hints beforehand. As Br. Jackson said "It will be an act of God".  Although there won't be any discernible 'signs', we have already been alerted that it will happen, and that's what we needed to know.

 

In contrast, 1 Thess 5:3 says "Whenever it is that they are saying, "Peace and security!" , then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them, just like birth pains of a pregnant woman."  So, this prophesy tells us the nations will be "saying" their belief that P&S is at hand, or even accomplished. This demon-inspired propaganda will fill the earth, misleading most.  So, this prophesy does unfold slowly, and we do well to pay attention to events that align with it.  Remember, the verse says "just like birth pains of a pregnant woman".  Expected, anticipated. Increasing in frequency, intensity and duration. Once labor pains begin, a woman knows that an unstoppable process has begun.

 

How Jehovah puts it into their hearts to "carry out his thought, yes, to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast" we don't know. But I can't see any reason why it wouldn't be in collaboration with the United Nations itself.  I look forward to what comes out of the next General Assembly.

 

 

[Cool.As.Ice]

Been a while since I’ve been on here, but I think the slave’s announcement was one of the biggest changes in understanding made in a very long time.

 

It’s also notable that they mentioned that it’s pointless to look for a gradual change. All this will come suddenly.

 

It’s not so much the pace of world events that really convince me the end is close, it’s how much more light Jehovah is revealing; at a faster pace, and more serious and urgent than before.

 

He is saying: “This is how it’s going down; make sure you are ready, and staying alert; it’s almost here!”

 

 

[jrnievas]

4 hours ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

It’s not so much the pace of world events that really convince me the end is close, it’s how much more light Jehovah is revealing; at a faster pace, and more serious and urgent than before.

 

He is saying: “This is how it’s going down; make sure you are ready, and staying alert; it’s almost here!”

 

Thank you for this. I think the same way about it. It always reminds me of Amos 3:7, For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing Unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants the prophets. 

 

Just a recap of what have been 'revealed' to us up to the present.

 

From 2021 - Understanding of John 5:28, 29

Where and when:  In the new world

 

2023 - Understanding of what we do know and what we don't know about Jehovah's judgment

When: During the Great Tribulation

 

Also adjusted understanding about Jehovah's judgment on Sodom and Gomorah; and adjusted ways on preaching, not focusing on report, but on every opportunity to witness.

 

2024 -Governing Body Update #2: Adjusted understanding on how we interact with those committed serious sins and have been removed in the congregation. (When: In the present)

 

Also, emphasizing now on starting Bible studies and making disciples instead of just placing literature.

 

and At the Annual Meeting 2024, Jehovah guided the FDS in the revelation of Rev. 17:16, 17. (When: Before the Great Tribulation starts)

 

What will be the next? 

 

Let's see...

[Dustparticle]

2 hours ago, jrnievas said:

 

What will be the next? 

  A massive worldwide short of coffee and it will end up into worldwide anarchy. 

[jrnievas]

35 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

  A massive worldwide short of coffee and it will end up into worldwide anarchy. 

And this will be interesting... aside from rumors of Chocolate Wars..