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9 minutes ago, grain of mustard said:

"Tempo como duração." Isso significa que esse "tempo como duração" não foi criado, mas sim uma consequência das ações de Jeová. Jeová agiu; ele começou a agir; ele começou a contar o tempo. Tempo como resultado de ações.  

Jehovah created the time markers.  

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12 hours ago, Barbllm said:

Election Day in the US is Tuesday. If President Trump loses the House and the Senate, he would be open to impeachment and possible criminal conviction. What might he do? Declare martial law in the US, attempt a full dictatorship. Or drop a nuke on Iran. It's all speculation, but we know the great tribulation is coming soon. 

 

Let's not get too carried away. Jesus said only worry about today. 

 

Trump has already been impeached TWICE last time he was President. 

 

The impeachment process is a long process. 

 

The process is divided into two main stages: impeachment in the House of Representatives and the trial in the Senate. First the investigation by the House of Representatives. This would take months. If the investigating committee finds enough reason to proceed, then they write up the list of charges, which would take days. Then the House votes and if the majority are in favor of impeachment, then it moves on to the next phase in the Senate. 

 

The trial takes place in the Senate and will take days or weeks. Two-thirds of the Senate, that's 67 votes, need to be in favor for a conviction to happen. For the Democrats to get enough votes to convict Trump of anything, the Democrats would need to win 20 out of the 35 Senate races tomorrow.  That's a big hill. 

 

If the Senate votes in favor of conviction, that could mean anything and depends on what the actual charges are. The penalty could range from a stern lecture to possibly removal from office. 

 

To date no US President has ever been removed from office. 

 

On average the impeachment process takes 3 to 4 months. The earliest such an impeachment could occur is sometime in January 2027. 

 

 

 

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Phillipians 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well-spoken-of, whatever things are virtuous, and whatever things are praiseworthy, continue considering these things. 

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 @chuck83I  still read all false religion is included in BtG but the word Mother has really confused me. its like for 30 years I've never noticed 'Mother' . Does that mean the Catholic Church is an instigator /leader?   I'm sorry if I am not making sense but now you know what it feels like to be inside this mind. Its relentless.

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1 hour ago, LeslieDean said:

 @chuck83I  still read all false religion is included in BtG but the word Mother has really confused me. its like for 30 years I've never noticed 'Mother' . Does that mean the Catholic Church is an instigator /leader?   I'm sorry if I am not making sense but now you know what it feels like to be inside this mind. Its relentless.

I have always understood that Christendom is the primary target of Babylon the Great!

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1 hour ago, LeslieDean said:

 @chuck83I  still read all false religion is included in BtG but the word Mother has really confused me. its like for 30 years I've never noticed 'Mother' . Does that mean the Catholic Church is an instigator /leader?   I'm sorry if I am not making sense but now you know what it feels like to be inside this mind. Its relentless.

As i understand in pure worship book 15:6 BtG is Satan's Religious Organization that spread false doctrine that causes to have many denominations and sects. So BtG is not a specific denomination. 

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Just now, Dhanyel said:

I have always understood that Christendom is the primary target of Babylon the Great!

 

Is that because you live in a land dominated by Christendom? 

 

Is there such a thing as a primary target if they all are attacked at once? 

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Phillipians 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well-spoken-of, whatever things are virtuous, and whatever things are praiseworthy, continue considering these things. 

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2 minutes ago, Barbllm said:

His criminal conviction was discharged.  And then there's the Emoluments Clause and accusations of profiteering. 

 

 

 

 

 

Which is a wildly different than 34 accusations of rape, which was my point. I'm sure he's done many seedy financial crimes - not sure if any will be relevant to him trying to keep the house and senate, though.

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16 minutes ago, mjcabz said:

As i understand in pure worship book 15:6 BtG is Satan's Religious Organization that spread false doctrine that causes to have many denominations and sects. So BtG is not a specific denomination. 

Thank you..my elder just spoke with me since it is easier for me to understand and ask questions directly instead of text , wait, and go back and forth. He confirmed my understanding  that all religions that teach in error , which there is only one true religion, fall under BtG. He did direct me to look up origins of Catholicism on our website and articles re: Constantine. He said since I am a nurse I will readily understand metastatic and how cancer spreads from a primary source. Catholic  means universal.

Roman Catholic Church: The term eventually became particularly associated with the church centered in Rome and under the authority of the pope.
Something interesting to consider
The word Catholic itself does not mean false religion. It describes the claim to universality.
But consider Jesus' words at John 18:36:
“My Kingdom is no part of this world.”
That raises an important distinction: Jesus' congregation was to be united worldwide, but it was not to become a worldly political power.
And that brings us back to

Revelation 17.  Here is an interesting question for further study: How did an organization claiming universal Christian authority become so intertwined with kings, emperors, governments, and political affairs?
That historical development is worth examining alongside Revelation 17:1-5.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/pure-worship/survives/bring-end-to-your-prostitution/ also my pioneer sister just gave me this link. 

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42 minutes ago, mjcabz said:

Pelo que entendi em Adoração Pura, livro 15:6, BtG é a organização religiosa de Satanás que espalha falsas doutrinas, dando origem a muitas denominações e seitas. Portanto, BtG não é uma denominação específica. 

Babylon is the world empire of false religion. All religions. The main one is Christendom (Christian religions). The Catholic Church is the mother church, a prostitute. The daughters, also prostitutes, represent the Protestant churches. 

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@LeslieDean @Dhanyel what i'm saying is simple, sorry for the confusion. the reference article says "false religion has a long history of supporting the political rulers of the world." with what @Tortuga said fits and timely, "Pope Leo becomes first pontiff to vote in U.S. election." babylon the great or false religion is known for their support. catholic or not.

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Yes, by cracky! I think I've got it now! Actually I had it right all along but the word Mother following the article about the Pope voting made me weirdly connect the Catholic Church as the Mother. It's very subtle difference.

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1 hour ago, grain of mustard said:

Babylon is the world empire of false religion. All religions. The main one is Christendom (Christian religions). The Catholic Church is the mother church, a prostitute. The daughters, also prostitutes, represent the Protestant churches. 

According to the box 15a at pure worship book chapter 15 we no longer see it as relevance to the prophetic vision of Ezekiel. And BtG exist way back to the time of tower of babel. False doctrine like trinity, hell fire, afterlife, are pre-christian religious doctrines even ancient Egyptians and Babylonians have that doctrine, so it means that BtG (mother) is the worldwide organization of false religion which started at early tower of babel times till now and the daughters are the denominations, sects, cults.

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3 minutes ago, mjcabz said:

De acordo com o quadro 15a do livro "Pure Worship", capítulo 15, não vemos mais relevância para a visão profética de Ezequiel. E a BtG existe desde a época da Torre de Babel. Falsas doutrinas como a trindade, o fogo do inferno e a vida após a morte são doutrinas religiosas pré-cristãs; até mesmo os antigos egípcios e babilônios possuíam essas doutrinas. Isso significa que a BtG (mãe) é a organização mundial de falsas religiões que começou nos primórdios da Torre de Babel e continua até hoje, e as filhas são as denominações, seitas e cultos.

I used Revelation as a reference, where Babylon is depicted. Of course, false religion has existed since the beginning. But Revelation speaks of its actions on the Day of the Lord. It was with this thought in mind, taking these accounts into account, that I mentioned the prostitute mother. But it is clear that false religion already existed, although it hadn't been given that name previously.  

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Monday morning, US election week. 

Let me get this straight:

- grocery stores throughout Europe have had their fridges turned up to 100+ degrees by unknown hackers (Portuguese supermarkets affected too)

- aka exactly what a sophisticated actor would do if they wanted to disrupt US east coast food supply next week

- US military bases already had essentially the same thing happen last week

- founder of Shopify tweets there’s a TCP vulnerability that basically makes every server on earth that’s not a managed service completely remotely controllable

- a nontechnical 26 year old hacked several major banks using only chatbots

- billions of dollars successfully stolen from different exchanges in several countries,  notably most of that was  $6.3b from binance in just 20 minutes. They’re “fine” per the CEO. Okay lol

- random civilian private jet crashes a few miles outside trumps house yesterday, right as Tucker Carlson of all people warns us Trump might be considering using nukes

- US Senator who warned about the same thing recently “had a stroke” over the weekend, alright sure

- bibi lost his majority so his only chance to stay in power is for a new war to begin (?)

- Poland currently in constitutional crisis/coup, both it and Lithuania just sent troops to the border w/Russia. NATO did the same in Latvia. Turkey moved fighter jets to the border too.

- Germany’s leaders phones all hacked

- openai and Anthropic are going to release gpt-6.2 and fable 5.5 after elections this week because somehow more capable models will help? 

- many streets in downtown DC is shut down right now for a speech today outside the Lincoln memorial?

- DOJ trying to pull ballots in California (?)

- documentaries openly critical of Elon & Zuck are BOTH pulled from theaters in just weeks because nobody knew about them and went to saw them. Not suspicious at all.

- oh and Russia and Ukraine both had their nuclear alerts hacked and sent false alerts of “impending air raids, chemical, and nuclear attacks” what could go wrong!

Unbelievably, there is not a hint of any of this on my Facebook, insta, tiktok, reddit, threads, blue sky, or LinkedIn feeds. Only X

You can ask any ai except chat about it and it goes, no yeah that’s about right. ChatGPT goes “you’re not allowed to ask about this”

 

What a strange moment in time…

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Eph. 3:20 “Now to the one who can, according to his power that is operating in us, do more than superabundantly beyond all the things we ask or conceive”

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44 minutes ago, Sofia said:

Monday morning, US election week. 

Let me get this straight:

- grocery stores throughout Europe have had their fridges turned up to 100+ degrees by unknown hackers (Portuguese supermarkets affected too)

- aka exactly what a sophisticated actor would do if they wanted to disrupt US east coast food supply next week

- US military bases already had essentially the same thing happen last week

- founder of Shopify tweets there’s a TCP vulnerability that basically makes every server on earth that’s not a managed service completely remotely controllable

- a nontechnical 26 year old hacked several major banks using only chatbots

- billions of dollars successfully stolen from different exchanges in several countries,  notably most of that was  $6.3b from binance in just 20 minutes. They’re “fine” per the CEO. Okay lol

- random civilian private jet crashes a few miles outside trumps house yesterday, right as Tucker Carlson of all people warns us Trump might be considering using nukes

- US Senator who warned about the same thing recently “had a stroke” over the weekend, alright sure

- bibi lost his majority so his only chance to stay in power is for a new war to begin (?)

- Poland currently in constitutional crisis/coup, both it and Lithuania just sent troops to the border w/Russia. NATO did the same in Latvia. Turkey moved fighter jets to the border too.

- Germany’s leaders phones all hacked

- openai and Anthropic are going to release gpt-6.2 and fable 5.5 after elections this week because somehow more capable models will help? 

- many streets in downtown DC is shut down right now for a speech today outside the Lincoln memorial?

- DOJ trying to pull ballots in California (?)

- documentaries openly critical of Elon & Zuck are BOTH pulled from theaters in just weeks because nobody knew about them and went to saw them. Not suspicious at all.

- oh and Russia and Ukraine both had their nuclear alerts hacked and sent false alerts of “impending air raids, chemical, and nuclear attacks” what could go wrong!

Unbelievably, there is not a hint of any of this on my Facebook, insta, tiktok, reddit, threads, blue sky, or LinkedIn feeds. Only X

You can ask any ai except chat about it and it goes, no yeah that’s about right. ChatGPT goes “you’re not allowed to ask about this”

 

What a strange moment in time…


 

Almost everyday news sis and changes all the time too.

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