Oceans

[Lewis]

The Ocean temperature is headed in uncharted territory, in about 2 weeks or less we should be breaking the highest temperature set on September 1, 2022 of 24.9C for the SST North Atlantic, it reached at 24.4C yesterday. SST World 60S-60N broke the record back in April this year at 21.1C, however, the climate analyzer is showing is it climbing up again.

 

Imagine what this will do to the corals around the world and all those creatures living in it.

 

https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/

https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/

 

 

[Lewis]

North Atlantic Ocean is now 0.1 from tying the record for hottest and we’re still about 1 - 1.5 months from max warming.

 

July 8 - 24.0C

July 9 - 24.1C

July 11 - 24.2C

July 13 - 24.3C

July 16 - 24.4C

July 17 - 24.5C

July 18 - 24.6C

July 20 - 24.7C

July 21 - 24.8C

[Lewis]

North Atlantic SST has now equaled the record of 24.9C set back in September 2022. 

 

[Qapla]

For those who are wondering ...

 

SST = Sea Surface Temperature

[Dages]

10 hours ago, Lewis said:

North Atlantic SST has now equaled the record of 24.9C set back in September 2022. 

 

quite a crazy curve, way above the upper limit

[Lewis]

10 hours ago, Dages said:

quite a crazy curve, way above the upper limit

 

Yes it is, most of the oceans are like that right now including seas (IE: Mediterranean Sea). The reason for the close eye on the North Atlantic, that is where the Hurricanes are born and intensify, so the warmer it gets the more fuel hurricanes get to generate its strength, and its suppose to be an active year for it.

 

So Hurricane season is from June 1 to Nov 30th, but its peak is about Aug and Oct, and we still have another month or so of max warming.

 

It’s going to be interesting how this unfolds.

[Qapla]

3 hours ago, Lewis said:

The reason for the close eye on the North Atlantic, that is where the Hurricanes are born and intensify,

 

 

Geologically, the Northern Atlantic is the area delimited to the south by two conjugate margins, Newfoundland and Iberia, and to the north by the Arctic Eurasian Basin. Hurricanes form near the equator over warm ocean waters. Those in the Atlantic usually form from weather systems that originate off the west coast of Africa.

 

While it may be true that, technically, anywhere north of the equator could be considered north, the area between Africa and the SE Unted States is usually considered Central Atlantic. The term mid-Atlantic refers to the part of the US from New York down to the vicinity of Virginia and from North Carolina down is considered Southeast.

 

Florida is an Atlantic coastal state and has never been thought of as being in the North Atlantic.

 

Hurricanes usually form somewhere between the west coast of Africa and the Carribean Sea. They sometimes end up as weather systems in the North Atlantic. Believe me, since I live in Florida, I would feel much better if hurricanes did form in the North Atlantic because that would put them well above us - as it is, due to where they form, Florida is one of the likely targets each hurricane season.

 

 

[Lewis]

Hi John, I agree with a lot of what you’ve said here, however, when it come to talking about the Atlantic Ocean temperature/currents/weather, scientists and geographers actually separate the Atlantic in two (North and South) at the equatorial counter current due to both having their own distinctive currents that influence weather.

 

In Climate Reanalizer a tool that is used to track SST, it has a specific North Atlantic tab showing what North Atlantic area covers when observing these temperature anomalies, you can see it in the picture on the website down the page which spans 0-60N and 0-80W.

 

You can see Florida is actually quite hot in the waters there.

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Ocean

 

The Atlantic Ocean occupies an elongated, S-shaped basin extending longitudinally between Europe and Africa to the east, and the Americas to the west. As one component of the interconnected World Ocean, it is connected in the north to the Arctic Ocean, to the Pacific Ocean in the southwest, the Indian Ocean in the southeast, and the Southern Ocean in the south (other definitions describe the Atlantic as extending southward to Antarctica). The Atlantic Ocean is divided in two parts, by the Equatorial Counter Current, with the North(ern) Atlantic Ocean and the South(ern) Atlantic Ocean split at about 8°N.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_hurricane#:~:text=On average%2C 14 named storms,around September 10 each season.

 

On average, 14 named storms occur each season in the North Atlantic basin, with an average of 7 becoming hurricanes and 3 becoming major hurricanes (Category 3 or greater).^[6] The climatological peak of activity is around September 10 each season

 

https://www.britannica.com/place/North-Atlantic-Current

[Qapla]

That is why I said that, technically, anywhere north of the equator could be considered north - however, had you said, "North Atlantic Basin", that would have phased the comment as being above the equator instead of the vernacular expression "North Atlantic" - since, in the common vernacular, most people understand the "North Atlantic" to be the area up by Iceland, not the waters near Florida.

 

While scientists and geographers may separate the Atlantic in two (North and South) at the equatorial counter current, most meteorologist on TV use the vernacular, so most people think of hurricanes forming in a "southern" place not a "northern" place.

 

Regardless of the technical vs vernacular, the rising temperatures in the Atlantic may increase the frequency and ferocity of the hurricanes.

 

 

[Lewis]

At this time of the year the World Ocean SST temperature suppose to go down, its gone up instead.

 

https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/

[Lewis]

It’s going to be a real hot year.

https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/

 

[Friends just call me Ross]

Oh my word!  At that steep of a trajectory, 2024 looks like it is going right OFF the chart! 😱

[Lewis]

Our Oceans are hotter than ever this year, already breaking past our hottest point from last year.

 

 

This heat in our ocean could cause our Ocean Circulation to collapse known as Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC), If this happen as Scientists are now projecting to happen in the next few decades, it will be the end of this system, we will be in the great tribulation well before this starts.

[Michał]

Our Oceans are hotter than ever this year, already breaking past our hottest point from last year.
 

 
This heat in our ocean could cause our Ocean Circulation to collapse known as Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC), If this happen as Scientists are now projecting to happen in the next few decades, it will be the end of this system, we will be in the great tribulation well before this starts.

Thank you. Can you explain or share what are possible scenarios for people if AMOC collapses?


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[Qapla]

From what I understand ...

 

Along with changes in rain distribution, an AMOC collapse could also make some other related ocean currents in the Atlantic, like the Gulf Stream, “partly vanish”. “This leads to a lot of dynamic sea level rise, up to a meter in the North Atlantic under an AMOC collapse. It could plunge northwestern European temperatures by 9 to 27 degrees (5 to 15 degrees Celsius) over the decades, extend Arctic ice much farther south, turn up the heat even more in the Southern Hemisphere, change global rainfall patterns and disrupt the Amazon.

 

Not to mention, possible loss of salt in the water since the currents help keep the salt suspended.

 

[Lewis]

11 hours ago, Michał said:

Thank you. Can you explain or share what are possible scenarios for people if AMOC collapses?


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As John mentioned, rain distribution will be a huge factor as many countries rely on seasonal rain for their crops. Europe would suffer massively as temperature plunge. Pretty much the entire planet would suffer from extreme heat to extreme freeze, food shortages, sea level rise, stronger storms. Pure chaos.

[Qapla]

28 minutes ago, Lewis said:

Europe would suffer massively as temperature plunge. Pretty much the entire planet would suffer from extreme heat to extreme freeze, food shortages, sea level rise, stronger storms. Pure chaos.

 

Not so sure about the pure chaos ... 

 

(Luke 17:26-30) . . .Moreover, just as it occurred in the days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the Son of man: 27 they were eating, they were drinking, men were marrying, women were being given in marriage until that day when Noah entered into the ark, and the Flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise, just as it occurred in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building. 29 But on the day that Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and sulfur from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 It will be the same on that day when the Son of man is revealed.
 

(Matthew 24:37-39) . . .For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 38 For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 39 and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.

[Michał]

 
Not so sure about the pure chaos ... 
 
(Luke 17:26-30) . . .Moreover, just as it occurred in the days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the Son of man: 27 they were eating, they were drinking, men were marrying, women were being given in marriage until that day when Noah entered into the ark, and the Flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise, just as it occurred in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building. 29 But on the day that Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and sulfur from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 It will be the same on that day when the Son of man is revealed.
 
(Matthew 24:37-39) . . .For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 38 For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 39 and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.

Yeah, thank you for reassuring us. As Lewis mentioned, that *would* be a possible scenario.


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[Lewis]

John, totally agree with you on those scriptures.

 

If AMOC did collapse, I would expect it to be sometime during the great tribulation, not before.

 

Here's a quote from this article about the severity of AMOC if it does happen.

https://midmichigannow.com/news/nation-world/ocean-system-that-moves-heat-gets-closer-to-collapse-which-could-cause-weather-chaos

 

"An AMOC collapse would cause so many ripples throughout the world's climate that are “so abrupt and severe that they would be near impossible to adapt to in some locations,”

[Lewis]

Record breaking Ocean heat last 3 days.

 

[Lewis]

Parts of the Atlantic is cooling at a rapid speed thats never been recorded before which could and most likely be affecting weather around the planet. This could be related to the slowing AMOC and the eventual shutdown of it. Another tale tail sign that something may have happened to the AMOC is the high tides and the rapid switch from hot to cold that are unprecedented.

While the Atlantic Zonal Mode is a normal climate pattern, at the rate it is going is not.

 

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2444394-part-of-the-atlantic-is-cooling-at-record-speed-and-nobody-knows-why/

https://preview.climate.gov/news-features/event-tracker/atlantic-nina-verge-developing-heres-why-we-should-pay-attention

 

 

[Lewis]

World’s Oceans are at its hottest again.

 

 

Gulf of Mexico, lots of energy for hurricanes