The Pushing Goes On

[Dustparticle]

 

Here is info on KOTN and response to Trump inauguration.

 

Putin discusses 'multipolar global order' with China's Xi after Trump inauguration - ABC News

 

 

[trottigy]

Just a snippet:

 

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“We jointly support the development of a more just multipolar global order and work to ensure indivisible security in Eurasia and the world as a whole,” Putin told Xi in remarks carried by the Russian state TV. “Joint efforts by Russia and China play an important stabilizing role in global affairs.”

 

Xi similarly praised close cooperation between Moscow and Beijing, saying it helps “bring positive energy to reforming and developing the global system.”

 

It was interesting that neither mentioned Trump.

 

Now that this is Trump's final time in office and it doesn't matter what "stuff" Putin has as black mail, if any, Trump can do whatever he wants. In fact, it looks like he is doing just that already.

 

We are in for an interesting end to this system.

 

How surprised do you think people will be that the "America FIRST!" president gives up all US power to the UN - that he says he distrusts?

Edited January 22 by trottigy

[MullumMiss]

When I saw the inauguration of President Trump on the news, I immediately thought about the pushing and look forward to the development.  

Edited January 21 by MullumMiss

[LeolaRootStew]

I'm still thinking that Trump might go after the "deep state" and it will inspire other countries to join forces against that common enemy. 

[trottigy]

41 minutes ago, LeolaRootStew said:

I'm still thinking that Trump might go after the "deep state" and it will inspire other countries to join forces against that common enemy. 

 

Is it "the deep state" the enemy or is it religion? And what do other countries have to do with the US "deep state"? I'm confused.

[LeolaRootStew]

37 minutes ago, trottigy said:

 

And what do other countries have to do with the US "deep state"? I'm confused.

 

Spoiler

What is the deep state?

"Deep state" is the term used to refer to the idea that there's a cadre of career employees inside a government are working together to secretly manipulate government policy and undermine elected leaders or political appointees. These people can have positions in the military or intelligence fields, as well as other areas of government like bureaucratic agencies.

 

It's a common enemy because the US constantly interferes with other countries behind the scenes, usually by means of the "deep state". If that interference could be tied to the "deep state", then other countries would have an incentive to destroy it if they see Trump trying to. Who knows, maybe they'll even be able to tie religion into it. 🤷‍♀️

 

41 minutes ago, trottigy said:

Is it "the deep state" the enemy or is it religion?

 

The Bible doesn't say that they give their power to the UN for the purpose of destroying religion - it could be for another purpose entirely - but when they do have that power they will use it against religion at some point.

 

Regardless, this is just a baseless theory and I don't want to argue about it as if it were scriptural.

[trottigy]

1 hour ago, LeolaRootStew said:

 

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What is the deep state?

"Deep state" is the term used to refer to the idea that there's a cadre of career employees inside a government are working together to secretly manipulate government policy and undermine elected leaders or political appointees. These people can have positions in the military or intelligence fields, as well as other areas of government like bureaucratic agencies.

 

It's a common enemy because the US constantly interferes with other countries behind the scenes, usually by means of the "deep state". If that interference could be tied to the "deep state", then other countries would have an incentive to destroy it if they see Trump trying to. Who knows, maybe they'll even be able to tie religion into it. 🤷‍♀️

 

 

The Bible doesn't say that they give their power to the UN for the purpose of destroying religion - it could be for another purpose entirely - but when they do have that power they will use it against religion at some point.

 

Regardless, this is just a baseless theory and I don't want to argue about it as if it were scriptural.

 

So, if Trump goes after "the deep state" which means "employees INSIDE a government" (in this case the US government) -> the hope is that other countries will go after those same employees in the US government?

 

I am not sure Trump is trying to inspire other countries to attack employees INSIDE the US government, but .... what do I know.

 

Spoiler

note: IF Trump is the presdient when the GT starts -> he will be giving up all military authority to the UN. That will come as a real surprise to those who are big supporters of his. They often doubt the UN as a legitamate authority. But as you say - who knows.

 

Edited January 22 by trottigy

[LeolaRootStew]

Just now, trottigy said:

 

So, if Trump goes after "the deep state" which means "employees INSIDE a government" (in this case the US government) -> the hope is that other countries will go after those same employees in the US government?

 

I am not sure Trump is trying to inspire other countries to attack employees INSIDE the US government, but .... what do I know.

 

I don't think the deep state is just in the US government. 

[trottigy]

But that is the definition you gave:

 

" a cadre of career employees inside A government" - not multiple governments

 

Are you thinking of something else - like some global cabal or something? 

Edited January 22 by trottigy

[LeolaRootStew]

Just now, trottigy said:

Are you thinking of something else - like some global cabal or something? 

 

yes, but I think those are connected.

[trottigy]

Satan is surely runing things - including the US and it's President.

 

It will be interesting to see how Satan moves his chess pieces.

[Sackedbysapp]

5 hours ago, trottigy said:

 

Is it "the deep state" the enemy or is it religion? And what do other countries have to do with the US "deep state"? I'm confused.

What the heck is a deep state?

[trottigy]

2 hours ago, Sackedbysapp said:

What the heck is a deep state?

 

The definition was given above and here is another source at Wikipedia:

 

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According to an American political conspiracy theory, the deep state is a clandestine network of members of the federal government (especially within the FBI and CIA), working in conjunction with high-level financial and industrial entities and leaders, to exercise power alongside or within the elected United States government.[1]

 

The term deep state originated in the 1990s as a reference to an alleged longtime deep state in Turkey, but began to be used to refer to the American government as well, including during the Obama administration.[2] However, the theory reached mainstream recognition under the presidency of Donald Trump, who referenced an alleged "deep state" working against him and his administration's agenda.[3][4]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state_in_the_United_States

 

Some even think of Mike Pence as having been part of the "deep state" since he "worked from inside the government against Trump" when he didn't go along with then President Trump's illegal request to pause the electoral college counting.

Edited January 22 by trottigy

[Shawnster]

12 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

 

yes, but I think those are connected.

Apparently you also think they are a thing. And that Trump and associates are not part of it. 

 

I like how politician Trump has had a message of not trusting politicians. 

Edited January 22 by Shawnster

[Shawnster]

9 hours ago, Sackedbysapp said:

What the heck is a deep state?

Alabama. Mississippi 

 

Oh wait, that's the deep south. 

[LeolaRootStew]

3 hours ago, Shawnster said:

Apparently you also think they are a thing.

 

I do believe there is a global power pulling the strings behind the scenes - his name is Satan. How much he uses specific humans, I have no idea, but the powers certainly exist.

 

3 hours ago, Shawnster said:

And that Trump and associates are not part of it. 

 

Actually, I believe many of his associates are a part of it (perhaps all), but that doesn't really matter. If Trump were part of the deep state he could "target" the deep state in such a way as to trick others into giving power to the UN; or he could sincerely be trying to destroy it and get the same result. Either way works for me. 

 

Do not put your trust in Nobles.

[Shawnster]

51 minutes ago, LeolaRootStew said:

 

I do believe there is a global power pulling the strings behind the scenes - his name is Satan. How much he uses specific humans, I have no idea, but the powers certainly exist

 

But this is not a power that Trump can (or will) expose. 

 

51 minutes ago, LeolaRootStew said:

Do not put your trust in Nobles.

 

Exactly. 

 

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If Trump were part of the deep state he could "target" the deep state in such a way as to trick others into giving power to the UN; or he could sincerely be trying to destroy it and get the same result. Either way works for me. 

 

It's Jehovah thought that gives power to the UN. It's not any politician.  This is Jehovah's thought. 

 

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Edited January 22 by Shawnster

[LeolaRootStew]

2 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

But this is not a power that Trump can (or will) expose. 

 

I didn't say he would succeed.

[LeolaRootStew]

13 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

It's Jehovah thought that gives power to the UN. It's not any politician.  This is Jehovah's thought. 

 

 

Nothing I said discounts that.

[Sheep]

20 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

I don't think the deep state is just in the US government. 

 

17 hours ago, Sackedbysapp said:

What the heck is a deep state?

I wondered the same thing. What is it? According to the link that @trottigy posted above (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state_in_the_United_States), I get the impression that this "deep state" is not something real, but something like a conspiracy theory. You know, something that Trump would invent to justify going after his political enemies?

 

So, is this "deep state" real? Or just something in Trump's imagination? (...aside from @LeolaRootStew's explanation of Satan...)

[LeolaRootStew]

Just now, Sheep said:

 

I wondered the same thing. What is it? According to the link that @trottigy posted above (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state_in_the_United_States), I get the impression that this "deep state" is not something real, but something like a conspiracy theory. You know, something that Trump would invent to justify going after his political enemies?

 

So, is this "deep state" real? Or just something in Trump's imagination? (...aside from @LeolaRootStew's explanation of Satan...)

 

I think it's more of a right-wing thing that pre-dated Trump. Regardless, it doesn't matter if it exists or not - even fake enemies can be motivating and all they need is a problem to solve and then Jehovah can give them the thought that the UN is the solution to their problem.

[BLEmom]

1 hour ago, Sheep said:

 

I wondered the same thing. What is it? According to the link that @trottigy posted above (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state_in_the_United_States), I get the impression that this "deep state" is not something real, but something like a conspiracy theory. You know, something that Trump would invent to justify going after his political enemies?

 

So, is this "deep state" real? Or just something in Trump's imagination? (...aside from @LeolaRootStew's explanation of Satan...)

A couple links I read earlier today basically show this goes back to the 60’s with a few men who purposely set out to create chaos. It relates to their bringing the Illuminati back into popularity. 
I think it’s just been growing since then and the deep distrust that has come in the last days just emphasizes all the theories out there. Trump just happens to be a megaphone for what’s already there.