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Yes, very good and helpful material. It is a fine pint our brothers make in saying that we cannot be sure of when this cry of 'peace and security' will take place, either before or after the start of GT. One thing though is for sure, it will happen!

I am not yet wise, but I am on the long road that gets me there - Prov 9:10

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7 hours ago, IndyPhil said:

The questions from readers is very interesting. 

 

So what is being explained to us now is the following, if I understand it correctly:

 

A declaration of peace and security can come either because of Revelation 17:13, or as a satanic lie. We do not know at this point what the cause of the declaration will be. That is the difference.

 

This leads us to understand 1 Thessalonians 5:2,3 as saying that Jehovah’s day begins before the declaration of “peace and security,” because Jehovah has put his thought into the hearts of the nations and Babylon the Great is destroyed. Then a sudden destruction comes upon the nations immediately after this declaration (which has been preceded by the nations giving their power to the UN, which has eliminated false religion).

 

The other scenario would be that Satan’s world itself brings about a declaration of “peace and security,” and after that Jehovah puts it into the hearts of the nations to give their power to the UN. Then the great tribulation begins, which will lead to sudden destruction for all parts of Satan’s system (starting with false religion, the nations, etc.).

 

Is that how you understand it as well?

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If the world’s political powers proclaim “peace and security” after false religion has been removed, then the destruction of all those nations would follow with striking suddenness.

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If the proclamation of “peace and security” is made after the destruction of false religion, then Jehovah’s people will know that the destruction of the nations is imminent

 

1) Does this imply that if the cry happens before the destruction of BtG, the destruction of the nations won't be imminent?

 

2) If the destruction of BtG starts the GT and the end comes right after the cry, doesn't that imply there would need to be a pause after BtG is destroyed and before the cry is made so that there would be a time period we could even call the GT? In other words, wouldn't the GT be extremely short if the cry happened right after BtG is destroyed and that brings the end immediately? It sounds like the GT could last for mere days. Is that possible?

 

3) I think it makes the most sense (of course I can be wrong) that the cry would be a series of announcements. That way they could cry peace when they destroy BtG, and the announcement would actually make sense to them, and then they could continue to make the cry until the timing is right for Armageddon. That gives breathing room for the GT to last anywhere from days to years and the Nations would still be destroyed immediately after the last cry, without rushing the timeline.

 

I'm mentally preparing for the GT to be years, but I'll hope for days.

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