"Dinosaurs had feathers ruffled by parasites, study finds"

[EccentricM]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/dinosaurs-had-feathers-ruffled-by-parasites-study-finds/ar-BBY26XM

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/dec/10/dinosaurs-had-feathers-ruffled-by-parasites-study-finds

 

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Dinosaurs may have been fearsome and intimidating creatures that dominated the prehistoric earth – but it did not stop them having their feathers ruffled by parasites, researchers have found.

 

Scientists have discovered ancient pieces of amber, dating from about 99m years ago, that contain dinosaur feathers riddled with louse-like insects. One of the feathers even shows signs of having been nibbled.

 

The team said it is the first time feather-eating insects have been discovered from that era – despite many non-avian dinosaurs and early birds having been identified as having plumage. “This is the earliest recorded, or formally documented, [instance of] lice or louse-like insects feeding on feathers,” said Dr Chungkun Shih, a visiting professor at Capital Normal University in China and co-author of the research.

 

The discovery pushes back the origin of feather-munching insects by about 55m years. They were not the only parasites that might have troubled dinosaurs; previous research has shown that the beasts also endured blood-sucking ticks.

 

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See, feathered dinos... still no evidence of scales of yet. Seems to be its stacking up that they were in the catergory of the "birds" that came right after the sea creatures.

Edited December 10, 2019 by EccentricM

[Shawnster]

19 hours ago, EccentricM said:

See, feathered dinos... still no evidence of scales of yet. Seems to be its stacking up that they were in the catergory of the "birds" that came right after the sea creatures.

I'm having difficulty wrapping my head around this.

 

https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/did-all-dinosaurs-have-feathers/

 

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But don’t throw away those dinosaur books quite yet. If feathers were indeed widespread among dinosaurs, it’s possible that some lost their fluffy covering as adults. So the Tyrannosaurus rex may have been the lean, mean, featherless fighting machine that we’ve all come to know and love.

 

But a feathered animal that lost it's feathers wouldn't grow scales.  Right?

 

And if they all had feather, then they'd be warm blooded, right?

Edited December 11, 2019 by Shawnster

[EccentricM]

3 hours ago, Shawnster said:

I'm having difficulty wrapping my head around this.

 

https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/did-all-dinosaurs-have-feathers/

 

 

But a feathered animal that lost it's feathers wouldn't grow scales.  Right?

 

And if they all had feather, then they'd be warm blooded, right?

Well, they assume they were "cold blooded reptiles", though they have more bird features than anything, there is no evidence of scales as far as I'm aware. For years they've said modern birds "come from" dinosaurs who they say were reptiles. So reptiles gave way to birds in evolution. But there is no evidence linking them up, other than the assumption based on the structure of dinos being akin to birds, but with the proof that they had feathers really throws a spanner into the evolutionary works, and also matches up to the details of Genesis much more closely.

 

As opposed to "birds came from giant lizards with bird like bones", it makes more sense to say modern birds are decendants of... ancient giant birds.

 

I'm becoming more convinced that our modern "image" of dinos as giant lizards came from human myth and imagination when ancient people may have found the bones, and started saying "oh.. dragons" (hence the "highly detailed and accurate" ancient drawings, pottery and so on, that some young Earth creationists point out as evidence of man walking alongside dinosaur), basically. And this whole image has been passed down generations, right down to the early scientific ages, giving way to this "tradtion" of the continued assumption that the dinosaurs had scales (and of which they try to fit into evolutionary theory), of which is all starting to unravel.

 

Those ancient images of highly detailed drawings and pottery of dinosaurs I theorise came "first" (created by people who found bones), which the early scientists adopted and put in their text books, which still remain today, which are just all wrong and is why there is confusion and debate. We've (us and modern day scientists/historians) been taking their word all this time on what dinos looked like, of which was founded upon ancient human myth.

Edited December 11, 2019 by EccentricM

[Hugh O'D]

I'd just like to say that if it turns out the dinosaurs were feathered birds then it will be many minutes before I stop roflmao 

 

[Thesauron]

I'd just like to say that if it turns out the dinosaurs were feathered birds then it will be many minutes before I stop roflmao 
 

They weren’t birds. But many had feathers like birds do. Some had both feathers and scales.

[Qapla]

On 12/11/2019 at 5:50 PM, EccentricM said:

Those ancient images of highly detailed drawings and pottery of dinosaurs I theorize came "first" (created by people who found bones), which the early scientists adopted and put in their text books, which still remain today, which are just all wrong and is why there is confusion and debate. We've (us and modern day scientists/historians) been taking their word all this time on what dinos looked like, of which was founded upon ancient human myth.

 

And now we are supposed to take the words of modern day people who find artifacts and theorize what they looked like, come up with "modern drawings" and put those in new books so there can be new myth instead of ancient myth.

 

There is no way to determine what critters that predate humans on earth actually looked like from "bones and bits of amber" ... so modern scientists can be just as wrong as ancient ones.

 

What we can be sure of is - none of the critters we have today evolved from some different form of life ... they were all created by Jehovah in the family they are in. Warm blooded birds did not come from cold blooded reptiles and cold blooded reptiles did not come from warm blooded birds.

 

There may have been some very large reptiles and some very large birds before man was created ... but all reptiles did not have feathers any more than all birds had scales.

[EccentricM]

I just came across this amazing alternative depiction of what T-rexes could have looked like by Benjamin Mackey, based upon the bird concept.

 

[Tortuga]

Tastes like chicken....

[EccentricM]

Just now, Tortuga said:

Tastes like chicken....

 

[EccentricM]

On raptors though, some for those too.

 

 

 

 

 

We just have no idea.

[Shawnster]

7 hours ago, EccentricM said:

I just came across this amazing alternative depiction of what T-rexes could have looked like by Benjamin Mackey, based upon the bird concept.

 

 

Links, please. 

[EccentricM]

5 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Links, please. 

It was from a image search which linked me to a gallery of such pictures on pininterest. It was a collection of various artist "alternative depictions".

Edited December 7, 2020 by EccentricM

[Shawnster]

25 minutes ago, EccentricM said:

It was from a image search which linked me to a gallery of such pictures on pininterest. It was a collection of various artist "alternative depictions".

I hate when that happens... I'm always like "I want to know more!" Lol 

Edited December 7, 2020 by Shawnster