s korea news

[bohemian]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-54694964

 

South Korea starts alternative service for conscientious objectors including Jehovah’s Witnesses.

[Lee49]

3 years but still in prison! - "The 63 will work, eat and sleep in prisons, but will be separated from other inmates and given several weeks of annual leave."

"While the Supreme Court ruling has been hailed as a victory by Jehovah's Witnesses, rights groups have argued that the hefty three-year work requirement is simply an alternative punishment".  

[jwhess]

It used to be a prison sentence for 18 months.  Now they have to stay inside for 36 months....🙄

[Hinata]

21 minutes ago, jwhess said:

It used to be a prison sentence for 18 months.  Now they have to stay inside for 36 months....

 

What may do you think be better?

 

[jwhess]

1 hour ago, Hinata said:

 

What may do you think be better?

 

They two things I can think is better, [1] they are not "prisoners" they are civilians and [2] no criminal record when it is over.

The downside is more time demanded and they don't get to go home (they have to live at the prison) but they do get time off I heard.

[Hinata]

2 minutes ago, jwhess said:

The downside is more time demanded and they don't get to go home (they have to live at the prison) but they do get time off I heard.

 

That’s true. We hope the time will decrease as time goes by.

 

I heard Russia had the time decrease from seven years to three years. Thailand, similar.

 

[Hotteok]

My father's not pleased with the fact that they still have to work like before and that time went up to whopping 36 months... 

and I'm like, dad! that's not the point! They aren't prisoners anymore and they can get to go home occasionally and possess THE cell phone!

 

[Nelly Kim]

4 hours ago, VisualizeUrParadise said:

My father's not pleased with the fact that they still have to work like before and that time went up to whopping 36 months... 

and I'm like, dad! that's not the point! They aren't prisoners anymore and they can get to go home occasionally and possess THE cell phone!

 

Well that sounds kinda better... Since they won't be treated as criminals ( Beating, food ration and stuff)... I'm Confident Jehovah has plans... He'll use this to our advantage somehow... It's not easy in the main time though...

[LoneWanderer]

While doubling the time sure seems punitive, and non-Witnesses will not understand why our brothers would rather do that than go to jail, at least the brothers don't get a criminal record, right? My sister-in-law who's crazy about all things Japanese was saying (is this true?) that previously the Korean brothers tried would have to travel to places like Japan before their prison sentence, as after having a record, they would not be admissible into the country.

 

Same would probably apply for a visa waiver to the US and anyone with a record (no matter if it's for conscientious objection) would need to apply for a tourist visa at an embassy.

[Hinata]

9 hours ago, LoneWanderer said:

My sister-in-law who's crazy about all things Japanese was saying (is this true?) that previously the Korean brothers tried would have to travel to places like Japan before their prison sentence, as after having a record, they would not be admissible into the country.

 

Yes. Criminal record is a reason for rejection for travelling abroad for certain countries. Japan is one of them.

 

Ironically, awaiting for military enrollment is also a reason for rejection for travelling abroad, (because it is possible they may flee to another country and never come back) so it is either way you can't.

 

Edited October 28, 2020 by Hinata

[Sheep]

It's been a while since we had anything to add to this topic. So today's article on jw.org should give us more to talk about.

 

https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/south-korea/Historic-Development-Alternative-Civilian-Service-Begins-in-South-Korea/