JW Library installer

[bigvince]

I recently posted about running JW Library on a mac. I downloaded crossover to try but need the JW Library installer. Does anyone have it? Next option is to purchase a surface or something for screen sharing to teach others.

[Brandon]

46 minutes ago, bigvince said:

I downloaded crossover to try but need the JW Library installer.

I thought crossover was for using WT Library, not JW Library (?)

[bigvince]

oh,  well I guess surface it is. Much as I hate to own a windows device I'll rarely use. Thanks.

[Myew]

JW Library on Windows is from the Microsoft Store, you can't install it with Crossover. You dual boot it in Windows/Windows Virtual Machine or you don't.

Especially if you're not planning to use one much, a Surface is overpriced for what you'd be getting out of it. They aren't very capable without upgrades and accessories reaching into the $800-1000 territory. Your best bet is something like the 15" Acer Aspire 5 with Ryzen 3200U. Far more powerful, upgradable, and better value at $350-400. I've bought and set these up for other people this year. https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Display-Graphics-Keyboard-A515-43-R19L/dp/B07RF1XD36/

Another similar, more powerful Asus laptop but not as good chassis/design or screen (I think it's a TN, not IPS panel like the Acer) at $400: https://slickdeals.net/f/14684663-asus-vivobook-14-fhd-ryzen-5-8gb-ddr4-256gb-pcie-ssd-399-walmart-399?src=catpagev2

Not possible to get them for this price now, but during Black Friday there were even some very capable (but not upgradable) laptops for as low as $162 that I know some bought and work well. https://www.walmart.com/ip/seort/255908199

Edited December 29, 2020 by Myew

[jwhess]

I got a used 17" HP laptop for my LDC WatchtowerCAD work with 8 GB Ram and 250 GB hard drive (an I5 processor) for $200.  Screen is 1920 x 1080.  Works OK

[Myew]

The best used Windows machines that I know are usually available are these business USFF PCs from HP. You can find them with a 4th gen i5, 4-8GB of RAM, a 128-256GB SSD, and Windows 10 for as low as $100 rarely, though usually closer to $125-150. https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-EliteDesk-800-G1-USFF-PC-Core-i5-4590T-2-00GHz-8GB-RAM-128GB-SSD-Windows-10/383870622964?hash=item596078dcf4%3Ag%3A22YAAOSwG45f4hD9&LH_BIN=1

 

There's also some comparable new mini PCs: https://www.amazon.com/AK1-Windows-Processor-Computer-Ethernet/dp/B07D77W8CZ/

[Qapla]

I think the Android version of JWL can be loaded on MAC using an emulator ... it is available on Google Play Store.

 

[bigvince]

A cheap laptop isn’t a bad idea. I tried an emulator but it was unreadable to others during screenshare. 

[Jay]

12 hours ago, jwhess said:

WatchtowerCAD

Is it like AutoCAD?

[jwhess]

7 hours ago, BrotherJay said:

Is it like AutoCAD?

It is a type of AutoCAD clone.  The menus and keyboard actions are very similar. I forget the name of the underlying CAD program (it is available commercially for about $300.  It is a consortium of members and we joined to be able to give the program away for free,  It is specially tailored to our needs and has a MEPS feature added to intergrate it into our Watchtower system.

 

Only LDC participants in the CAD work can access it.  Last year, I had had to retire from that aspect of my theocratic service due to eyesight problems.

[jayrtom]

20 hours ago, Myew said:

JW Library on Windows is from the Microsoft Store, you can't install it with Crossover. You dual boot it in Windows/Windows Virtual Machine or you don't.

Especially if you're not planning to use one much, a Surface is overpriced for what you'd be getting out of it. They aren't very capable without upgrades and accessories reaching into the $800-1000 territory. Your best bet is something like the 15" Acer Aspire 5 with Ryzen 3200U. Far more powerful, upgradable, and better value at $350-400. I've bought and set these up for other people this year. https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Display-Graphics-Keyboard-A515-43-R19L/dp/B07RF1XD36/

Another similar, more powerful Asus laptop but not as good chassis/design or screen (I think it's a TN, not IPS panel like the Acer) at $400: https://slickdeals.net/f/14684663-asus-vivobook-14-fhd-ryzen-5-8gb-ddr4-256gb-pcie-ssd-399-walmart-399?src=catpagev2

Not possible to get them for this price now, but during Black Friday there were even some very capable (but not upgradable) laptops for as low as $162 that I know some bought and work well. https://www.walmart.com/ip/seort/255908199

Don't talk bad about the surface (:p) because it is a very good device with an added feature - It can be also a tablet. There is not many devices that are like that

Also the surface Go, a small version, is even better because it serves all puporposes, ministry wise, with its sleak size 😉 

 

[Myew]

I didn't say the Surface line were bad devices. They're just a poor value for the use case and options, and still are even for 2-in-1's. I recently picked up the Lenovo Chromebook Duet (ChromeOS tablet with cover/stand and keyboard dock) for ~$240 w/ tax (currently $250 at Best Buy) to replace my 5+ year old tablet. It's got a great 10" screen, a 10 hour battery, it comes with the keyboard dock without spending an extra $150, it runs Chrome and Android and Linux apps, supports USI styli, very positive reviews, etc. I haven't tested hosting Zoom with ChromeOS outside of 1 on 1 setting up people's devices, but it probably can along with screen sharing since the Chrome Zoom App lets you use the participants and chat windows properly. I also have a cheap USB C dock for HDMI second screen and managing multiple windows. Of course, I usually prefer to use my Windows laptop for hosting Zoom. Last year I picked up the Lenovo Flex 14" IPS 2-in-1 with a Ryzen 3500U APU, 12GB DDR4 RAM, 256GB NVME SSD, including a Stylus for $450. Both are far better values than a Surface Go 2, the laptop being more powerful than a highly specced Surface Pro.

https://slickdeals.net/f/14677190-128gb-lenovo-chromebook-duet-10-1-2-in-1-w-detachable-keyboard-229-free-shipping-best-buy?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-chromebook-duet-10-1-tablet-128gb-with-keyboard-ice-blue-iron-gray/6401727.p?skuId=6401727

Edited December 30, 2020 by Myew

[bigvince]

well, I actually reached out to cross over's support and they have concluded that it can not run JW Library. So the search continues. I used to have parallels on my mac, but I'd rather not have to get another windows license.

[Brandon]

@bigvince, do you not currently own any device capable of running jw library?

[bigvince]

@Brandon Only my iphone and ipad. But the idea is to screen share so I can teach others to use JW Library.

[Brandon]

2 minutes ago, bigvince said:

ipad

Great! You can actually screen share on an iPad using the Zoom app. I’ve done it before. Discord also works, and some others.

 

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005890803-iOS-Screen-Sharing

[bigvince]

I'll try it! Thanks