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1 minute ago, Shawnster said:

 

Doing the same thing for 75 years hasn't given the UN any teeth or brought the world closer to peace and security. Perhaps shaking up the status quo will be productive. 

Only if Jehovah god wants it to be .. 

You can't walk with God while holding hands with the Devil.

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23 minutes ago, Patience87 said:

I say let the shaking begin. Hebrew 12:26 😉

 

1 hour ago, Áine said:

I just cannot wait to see Jehovahs name glorified

And to that we say: Amen! So be it…

Leviticus 19:18: “‘You must not take vengeance nor hold a grudge against the sons of your people, and you must love your fellow man as yourself.”
 

 

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4 hours ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

A federal judge ordered the deportations stopped and he went right ahead and sent the planes out anyway, defying the federal court order.

A district court judge doesn’t have standing in these matters, not to mention the fact that he gave a *verbal order* to turn the planes around after they had left U.S. soil. Verbal orders mean nothing. 

Live long and prosper. 🖖🏻

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29 minutes ago, Julsey said:

A district court judge doesn’t have standing in these matters, not to mention the fact that he gave a *verbal order* to turn the planes around after they had left U.S. soil. Verbal orders mean nothing. 

Seems they’re still debating this now:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wp20zn97jo.amp

 

 

Leviticus 19:18: “‘You must not take vengeance nor hold a grudge against the sons of your people, and you must love your fellow man as yourself.”
 

 

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11 hours ago, Dark King said:

The rules of law is falling apart. And the king of the South is divided for the first time ever. Looks like US is more worried about China than they worried about Russia. And they're seems certain ones in US who wants to become more friendly with Russia.

 

The nature of the King of the South is to be divided - clay and iron. This is not the first time, but it will hopefully be the last.

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13 hours ago, Dark King said:

The rules of law is falling apart. And the king of the South is divided for the first time ever. 

 

 

Is it?  I don't see any division. The Anglo American world power is as united as ever. 

 

As @LeolaRootStew pointed out, the iron and clay are not sticking together, but this is nothing new. 

Phillipians 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well-spoken-of, whatever things are virtuous, and whatever things are praiseworthy, continue considering these things. 

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4 hours ago, Shawnster said:

 

Is it?  I don't see any division. The Anglo American world power is as united as ever. 

 

As @LeolaRootStew pointed out, the iron and clay are not sticking together, but this is nothing new. 

It could be just me, and I been wrong several times before. I just see US leaving NATO and UK looking to defend Europe without America's help. Is different than anything else I ever seen or read in history of the anglo-american world power.

 

 

This is from the article below:

“For the United States to give up the role of supreme allied commander of NATO would be seen in Europe as a significant signal of walking away from the alliance,” retired Adm. James Stavridis, who served as SACEUR and head of European Command from 2009 to 2013, said in an email.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-admin-considers-giving-nato-command-exclusively-american-eisenho-rcna196503

 

 

And what does iron and clay have to do with anything happening? I'm a little confused. The clay is the common people in US and UK. 

 

*** w23 August pp. 10-11 par. 12 Learn From Bible Prophecy ***
12 Read Daniel 2:41-43. In the dream that Daniel interpreted for King Nebuchadnezzar, the feet of the image that the king saw were made of “iron mixed with soft clay.” By comparing this prophecy with others in the books of Daniel and Revelation, we can conclude that the feet represent the Anglo-American alliance, the dominant world power today. Regarding this world power, Daniel says that “the kingdom will be partly strong and partly fragile.” Why partly fragile? Because the common people, pictured by the soft clay, undermine its ability to act with ironlike strength.b
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2023521&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=20

 

 


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5 hours ago, Shawnster said:

The Anglo American world power is as united as ever.

Actually I see opposite happening. 
Don’t see them united as before, especially in relation to Ukraine and dealing with Russia. 
UK was basically “dumped” and US acts independently with Ukraine war. 
THEN UK reacted and started doing their own thing within Europe gathering coalition etc. USA had veto Russian resolution at UN joining rogue nations like North Korea, while UK did not join USA…

There is so much more I could write about it ..but I am off to the meeting. 


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Man was created as an intelligent creature with the desire to explore and understand :)

 

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Bottom line is that our understanding of Bible prophecy is the Anglo-American world power is destroyed by Jehovah at Armageddon. It does not beak apart before He destroys it. 

 

 

Phillipians 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well-spoken-of, whatever things are virtuous, and whatever things are praiseworthy, continue considering these things. 

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6 hours ago, Dark King said:

I just see US leaving NATO and UK looking to defend Europe without America's help. Is different than anything else I ever seen or read in history of the anglo-american world power.

One has to be careful with little blips in the action. It is a little like the stock market, it has ups and downs, but occasionally it has a huge jump. Volatility is the name of the game now and perhaps Satan is throwing us a curve ball to confuse us. The overall message is coming true, but not without some surprising events.

Percy

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King Charles is planning to invite the USA to become an "associate member" of the British Commonwealth, reports claim.

 

The Commonwealth is a voluntary organization of 56 independent and equal states united by a commitment to democracy and the rule of law, among other Western values.

 

The proposal for America to join the British Commonwealth was originally backed by Queen Elizabeth during Trump's first term as President, but the idea was never realized.

But now, it is again "being discussed at the highest" levels of British government.

 

Furthermore, King Charles has already invited Trump for an unprecedented second State visit, personally delivered by Prime Minister Keir Starmer.

 

Sounds like they're getting on just fine.

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5 hours ago, Shawnster said:

Bottom line is that our understanding of Bible prophecy is the Anglo-American world power is destroyed by Jehovah at Armageddon. It does not beak apart before He destroys it. 

 

 

But it could be like a bad marriage, still married even conveying a strong relationship when it's really in tatters. (If that is the case, the GT is really close, because of that prophecy that they will still be a world power).

I'm thinking of the term too: They will be crying peace when there is no peace. I think the feet of iron and clay is a harbinger of divisions to the deepest level possible. 

<p>"Jehovah chooses to either 'reveal' or 'conceal' - cherish what he reveals and be patient with what he conceals."

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5 hours ago, Doug said:

King Charles is planning to invite the USA to become an "associate member" of the British Commonwealth, reports claim.

 

 

 

Interesting. 

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-weighs-report-king-charles-151532201.html

Writing on his Truth Social platform while sharing an article referencing the unprecedented offer, Trump said: “I Love King Charles. Sounds good to me!”

Phillipians 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well-spoken-of, whatever things are virtuous, and whatever things are praiseworthy, continue considering these things. 

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8 hours ago, Shawnster said:

Bottom line is that our understanding of Bible prophecy is the Anglo-American world power is destroyed by Jehovah at Armageddon. It does not beak apart before He destroys it. 

 

 

True my brother but, we must be closer than we think.  The USA is dismantling itself.  One part of Satan's system is attacking the other part.  The Legislative, Executive and Judicial aspect or branches of this country are attacking and turning on each other and themselves.  These branches provide a system of checks and balances to ensure power is distributed evenly.  Thats not happening.   So, we take a waiting attitude and trust in Jehovah.

 

Prophecies are overlapping here.

 

Trump says many things, don't believe a word he says.  He turns on a dime.


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1 hour ago, cme said:

Trump says... 

 

I think it's this particular President. His last term in office a lot of people were stirring and focused on prophecy and the dismantling of the King of the South. Then that agitation subsided during Biden's 4 years. Now the concern has returned. 

 

This particular President is a bit of a lightning rod. 


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Phillipians 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well-spoken-of, whatever things are virtuous, and whatever things are praiseworthy, continue considering these things. 

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1 hour ago, cme said:

True my brother but, we must be closer than we think.  The USA is dismantling itself.  One part of Satan's system is attacking the other part.  The Legislative, Executive and Judicial aspect or branches of this country are attacking and turning on each other and themselves.  These branches provide a system of checks and balances to ensure power is distributed evenly.  Thats not happening.   So, we take a waiting attitude and trust in Jehovah.

 

Prophecies are overlapping here.

 

Trump says many things, don't believe a word he says.  He turns on a dime.


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True but come 4 years time and the scene of this world could change again to a agenda that is more suited to a united UN, or maybe before hopefully.

 

But seriously the ride of the four horseman is in full swing right now, in Revelation 6:4 especially of the fiery coloured horse to take peace away from the earth. I really feel the demons and Satan feel the gravity that they have a short time left.

PEACE AND SECURITY seems so elusive right now. It seems both the Israel and Gaza war aswell as Ukraine and Russia do not want peace. But in there agenda peace through strength, or exactly the same as Ecclesiastes 8:9 That mankind will dominate man to his injury.

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3 hours ago, Shawnster said:

 

Interesting. 

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-weighs-report-king-charles-151532201.html

Writing on his Truth Social platform while sharing an article referencing the unprecedented offer, Trump said: “I Love King Charles. Sounds good to me!”

What does it mean?

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3 hours ago, Sackedbysapp said:

What does it mean?

Probably nothing. On the other hand, I reference this as indication the Anglo-American world power is not coming apart. 

 

Most all of this is just noise. Distraction. Smoke but no fire. 

 

3 hours ago, Godskingdomrules said:

True but come 4 years time and the scene of this world could change again to a agenda that is more suited to a united UN, or maybe before hopefully.

Or this is the moment that is perfectly suited for a united UN. After all, Europe is now, only after Trump pulled US aid to Ukraine, talking with a united voice that Putin should be stood up to. 

Phillipians 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well-spoken-of, whatever things are virtuous, and whatever things are praiseworthy, continue considering these things. 

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10 hours ago, Godskingdomrules said:

PEACE AND SECURITY seems so elusive right now. It seems both the Israel and Gaza war aswell as Ukraine and Russia do not want peace. But in there agenda peace through strength, or exactly the same as Ecclesiastes 8:9 That mankind will dominate man to his injury.

President Trump what’s peace AT ALL cost taking no interest in true solid grounds to sustain it and make it last 

Experts are saying this.

He has a lot of power. But has no solid standings for the peace to last

This is what the GB has always said: peace and security but we can’t be fooled. It s a weak standing and the start of the end of this wicked system.

Look at the behavior and temperament of the biggest World leaders. They could easily take humanity to unprecedented disaster if Jehovah would nt interfere 

Eph. 3:20 “Now to the one who can, according to his power that is operating in us, do more than superabundantly beyond all the things we ask or conceive”

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