Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[JennyM]

30 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

I could not find any information that supports above statement. 

The only info I found is that NATO has a common found management and no single country takes money for themselves, but allocation is done by all NATO nations, and agreement is needed for that to take place. 

So if NATO needs reinforce Eastern flank ..then more money will be allocated for that etc etc ...

The only flow of money to USA is by means of selling weapons to NATO, which then are given for free to Ukraine. (But that's a different matter) 

 

Regarding 5% spending : Trump described this as “the Hague defence commitment”, saying it was “a monumental win for the United States, because we were carrying more than our fair share” and “a big win for Europe and for actually western civilisation” because Europe would now be “stepping up to take more responsibility”.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/25/trump-praises-nato-states-as-summit-prepares-to-lift-defence-spending-target

until their money runs out. 

[Osprey]

"Secret" meeting of army generals with Hegseth may or (more probably) may not be connected with general state of affairs in the world. But Nato reportedly informed Russians that the next violation of airspace by Russian aircraft will mean it will be shot down and now Poland is calling on its citizens to urgently leave Belarus as soon as possible due to "rising tensions, military events in the region and repeated arbitrary arrests of Polish citizens".

We seem to be very close to additional escalation.

[Michał]

25 minutes ago, Osprey said:

"Secret" meeting of army generals with Hegseth may or (more probably) may not be connected with general state of affairs in the world. But Nato reportedly informed Russians that the next violation of airspace by Russian aircraft will mean it will be shot down and now Poland is calling on its citizens to urgently leave Belarus as soon as possible due to "rising tensions, military events in the region and repeated arbitrary arrests of Polish citizens".

We seem to be very close to additional escalation.

 

im so grateful for this forum. Thanks to this thread I know what’s going on in my country 😆

[JennyM]

51 minutes ago, Osprey said:

"Secret" meeting of army generals with Hegseth may or (more probably) may not be connected with general state of affairs in the world. But Nato reportedly informed Russians that the next violation of airspace by Russian aircraft will mean it will be shot down and now Poland is calling on its citizens to urgently leave Belarus as soon as possible due to "rising tensions, military events in the region and repeated arbitrary arrests of Polish citizens".

We seem to be very close to additional escalation.

oh oh. 

prophecy at daniel is being fulfilled..  King of the North will sweep many lands. we are very close and Im happy for that. 

[New World Explorer]

1 hour ago, Osprey said:

"Secret" meeting of army generals with Hegseth may or (more probably) may not be connected with general state of affairs in the world. But Nato reportedly informed Russians that the next violation of airspace by Russian aircraft will mean it will be shot down and now Poland is calling on its citizens to urgently leave Belarus as soon as possible due to "rising tensions, military events in the region and repeated arbitrary arrests of Polish citizens".

We seem to be very close to additional escalation.

I don't see it. Russia is really struggling in Ukraine ...big statements from Kremlin little action everywhere else. Ukraine is improving their own weapons manufacturing very efficiently ... Russia is loosing 5000 soldiers a week? .. how on earth this can be sustainable long term? I have opposite view.. all the noise Russia is making now is out of desperation... 

 

According to the most recent reports, Ukraine is now producing over 4 million drones annually, but has the potential to double that number with sufficient funding.

Approximately 800 arms producers are currently operating in Ukraine, with more than 200 of them producing drones.https://www.euronews.com/2025/09/25/made-in-ukraine-and-battlefield-tested-kyiv-to-open-up-global-arms-exports

 

Much of Trump’s post focused on taunting Putin over his faltering invasion. In characteristically abrasive language, the US leader mocked the Russian army’s lack of progress in Ukraine and suggested Moscow was facing major economic problems due to the spiraling cost of the war. “Russia has been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years a war that should have taken a real military power less than a week to win,” Trump wrote. “This is not distinguishing Russia. In fact, it is very much making them look like a paper tiger.”Trump himself has suggested that his new assessment of the war is based on a detailed understanding of the current military and economic situation in Russia and Ukraine. This version has been endorsed by US Vice President JD Vance, who commented this week that Trump has “grown very confident this war is bad for Russia.”https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/trump-called-russia-a-paper-tiger-because-he-believes-putin-is-losing/

 

 

Russia has lost around 1,106,430 troops in Ukraine since the beginning of its full-scale invasion on Feb. 24, 2022, the General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces reported on Sept. 26.

The number includes 940 casualties that Russian forces suffered over the past day. (yesterday - in one day only.) https://kyivindependent.com/general-staff-russia-has-lost-1-106-430-troops-in-ukraine-since-feb-24-2022/

 

Russian forces have advanced at an incremental pace. Since November 2022, Russian forces have only captured 5,842 square kilometers of Ukrainian territory,  accounting for about 0.97% of the country's landmass, the DeepState monitoring group said in August.https://kyivindependent.com/trump-says-russia-gained-virtually-no-land-in-ukraine-despite-heavy-costs/

Edited September 26 by New World Explorer

[Dages]

Poland asked its citizen to leave Belarus

[Osprey]

Greg, time will tell. Ukraine's army is currently most hardened in Europe, heavily supported by Nato, and some say that it is stronger by many parameters than all other Nato armies combined, except for US. So it is not so unlogical that Russia is struggling somewhat but still advancing slowly in Ukraine. In other countries mentality is different, armies are much smaller and don't have so much weapons (especially now when a lot has been sent to Ukraine). Believe me, if they would decide to attack Baltic states for example, they would progress much faster than in Ukraine.

Events of last 2 weeks show clearly to me that someone is pushing for escalation - is it Russia or someone else using false flags? I don't know, but someone is clearly doing it.

Edited September 26 by Osprey

[CHecker]

Peace? We'll see...

 

 

[Godskingdomrules]

13 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

Russia has lost around 1,106,430 troops in Ukraine since the beginning of its full-scale invasion on Feb. 24, 2022, the General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces reported on Sept. 26.

The number includes 940 casualties that Russian forces suffered over the past day. (yesterday - in one day only.) https://kyivindependent.com/general-staff-russia-has-lost-1-106-430-troops-in-ukraine-since-feb-24-2022/

Quoting this news source is just the same as Russia RT news they are all lies i wouldnt take this as reliable. Remember  through out the the war they have been saying russia continues to lose material equipment soldiers but same as Ukraine its all lies lies it is all part of war and Kiev independent is no different to RT. 

Edited September 26 by Godskingdomrules

[Sofia]

14 hours ago, Osprey said:

Greg, time will tell. Ukraine's army is currently most hardened in Europe, heavily supported by Nato, and some say that it is stronger by many parameters than all other Nato armies combined, except for US. So it is not so unlogical that Russia is struggling somewhat but still advancing slowly in Ukraine. In other countries mentality is different, armies are much smaller and don't have so much weapons (especially now when a lot has been sent to Ukraine). Believe me, if they would decide to attack Baltic states for example, they would progress much faster than in Ukraine.

Events of last 2 weeks show clearly to me that someone is pushing for escalation - is it Russia or someone else using false flags? I don't know, but someone is clearly doing it.

Putin s invasion was dictated by rumors comming from Russia (fear of losing his power by overthrowing) and rumors comming from Eastern Europe (the NATO approaching its borders namely Ukraine joining NATO).

Putin needs a war with NATO because his power rests on convincing Russians that they are fighting for survival. 

His rule depends on permanent escalation, on the constant impression that the state is surrounded, besieged, and therefore united only under his leadership. The rhetoric of existential threat is not a tool among others; it is the foundation of his authority.

This logic is not new. Every dictator who rose to power through aggression was trapped in the same cycle. Napoleon could not stop his campaigns without weakening his legitimacy. Hitler’s Reich collapsed the moment its advance stalled. Even Stalin’s system required permanent mobilization, whether through war, industrial “battles,” or purges. The dictator cannot offer stability, because stability would expose the emptiness of his promises.

For Putin, this means that the end of expansion is the beginning of decline. If Russia is not conquering, it is losing. If it is not escalating, it is being exposed as fragile. The survival of the regime requires external conflict just as much as oxygen is required for breathing. This is why any pause in aggression is temporary, and why peace, for such a ruler, is not an option but a threat.

 

I believe that Ukraine war will stop only when Putin dies or Jehovah intervenes 

[New World Explorer]

3 hours ago, Godskingdomrules said:

Quoting this news source is just the same as Russia RT news they are all lies i wouldnt take this as reliable. Remember  through out the the war they have been saying russia continues to lose material equipment soldiers but same as Ukraine its all lies lies it is all part of war and Kiev independent is no different to RT. 

Losses are documented in other sources as well. 

[New World Explorer]

Trump: Gaza deal ‘in final stages’; Netanyahu: Working on it, but it’s not yet done

“The Arab world wants peace, Israel wants peace and Bibi wants peace,” Trump said, using Netanyahu’s nickname. “If we get this done, it will be a great day for Israel and for the Middle East.”https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-says-gaza-truce-plan-not-finalized-after-trump-claims-everyone-on-board/

[Julsey]

On 9/26/2025 at 10:44 AM, CHecker said:

Peace? We'll see...

 

 

Yes, we seem to have suddenly gone from “no way will there be a 2 State solution” to this. 
 

Twenty-one point peace plan

[JennyM]

11 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

Trump: Gaza deal ‘in final stages’; Netanyahu: Working on it, but it’s not yet done

“The Arab world wants peace, Israel wants peace and Bibi wants peace,” Trump said, using Netanyahu’s nickname. “If we get this done, it will be a great day for Israel and for the Middle East.”https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-says-gaza-truce-plan-not-finalized-after-trump-claims-everyone-on-board/

So many peace attempts that didnt happen. Our special talk was emphasized that human efforts cannot stop war. 

[Bluebell]

11 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

Trump: Gaza deal ‘in final stages’; Netanyahu: Working on it, but it’s not yet done

“The Arab world wants peace, Israel wants peace and Bibi wants peace,” Trump said, using Netanyahu’s nickname. “If we get this done, it will be a great day for Israel and for the Middle East.”https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-says-gaza-truce-plan-not-finalized-after-trump-claims-everyone-on-board/

 

Dan 11:27..............and they will sit at one table speaking lies to each other.

But nothing will succeed

[Allabord4Jah]

They will never come to any real agreement!  The special worldwide talk explained it very beautifully that 1. Political leaders, 2. Inherited Sin through Adam 3. Satan (behind the scenes). This talk should be an eye and heart opener!  For those who are or who have been wondering why the UN can't being real peace and security to the world.  The speaker from my hall made mention how members of the UN that just met last week, the majority of the nations got up and walked out of the UN.  They were angry and divided, how could they be so unified for peace,  ehen their hatred showed through their actions against another member nation. I recorded this talk and I hope to play it for my neighbors.  The one's who were invited to hear the talk but backed out at last minute.  

 

[Dhanyel]

Trump and Netanyahu meet for high-stakes talks

US president promised ‘something special’ coming on Gaza, while Israel’s PM has reservations about the White House’s ceasefire plan, officials say

 

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-shutdown-netanyahu-09-29-25

 

[Áine]

Anyone else hear this news conference

https://news.sky.com/video/share-13441230

[sully313]

Trump talking eternal peace from all this and a great milestone for civilization

 

Lets see how all this stuff plays out now

[GoldAussieGirl]

Please Jehovah put that one thought into their hearts. 

[Dustparticle]

37 minutes ago, sully313 said:

a great milestone for civilization

 

I toast this with some chocolate milk.

[sully313]

1 hour ago, Dustparticle said:

 

I toast this with some chocolate milk.

I’d do just about anything for some chocolate milk right now 😛 clink clink!!!

[Doug]

Board   .      .       not Bored  .     .      .     of Peace    🕊️

 

Don't want anything lost in translation   

[BLEmom]

When they started quoting scripture I was mentally yelling blasphemy!  lol 

Oh and according to Bibi, this gets them in the book of life….

Sigh, May it come soon!

[JennyM]

3 hours ago, Áine said:

Anyone else hear this news conference

https://news.sky.com/video/share-13441230

Bro Herd has said, "theyre talking about peace."  So "any day now"