Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[BLEmom]

I mean…you can quibble over the exact definition of a religious war but just looking at the news lately, religion is all over these troubles
 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/evangelicals-amplify-trumps-religious-framing-iran-war-2026-04-08/

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/03/us-israel-iran-war-christian-rhetoric

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/pete-hegseths-christian-rhetoric-reignites-scrutiny-after-the-u-s-goes-to-war-with-iran

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-iran-religious-war-crusades/tnamp/

 

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/paula-white-cain-trump-jesus-christ-controversy-b2951338.html
 

https://baptistnews.com/article/at-white-house-trump-lauded-as-suffering-king-like-jesus/
 

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6392648988112

Pete Hegseth compares rescue of airman to Jesus death and resurrection 
 

 

 

 

 

 

[ChrisC]

If all wars aren’t religious, then what does this mean?

Re 18:24 Yes, in her was found the blood of prophets and of holy ones and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.”

 

Jehovah even cleared the ‘promised land’ because of the inhabitants’ religious/spiritistic practices:

De 18:12 For whoever does these things is detestable to Jehovah, and on account of these detestable practices Jehovah your God is driving them away from before you.

[Jim Jam]

13 hours ago, Barbllm said:

I'm angry that I'm afraid of it again.

 

Why are you afraid of a nuclear war? If it happens we won't get to live through it

Edited 6 hours ago by Jim Jam

[Shawnster]

1 hour ago, Áine said:

And yet you want to know what is going on

 

 

Which is why I skim the headlines. I keep updated on what's going on without getting any deeper into matters. It I went much deeper, I might start having daily discussions about politics. I might get frustrated and say, even just to my close circle of friends that this current US President makes me angry or upset or I might end up giving the impression I feel some politicians are or might be better leaders than the current US President. 

 

Instead, I don't give him any thought. I rarely have any conversations in person regarding the President. I also don't have this worry or fear of nuclear war. 

 

I read comments online where people are faint out of fear, so to speak. They are so wrapped up in all this that they cannot let a day or week go by without mentioning political machinations and discussing the latest bombastic exhalation. 

 

 

*** mrt article 29 par. 2 How to Control Worry ***
Limit your intake of negative news. There is only so much you need to know about a crisis. Overexposure to calamitous reports will only heighten your feelings of fear and despair.

 

Bible principle: “A crushed spirit saps one’s strength.”—Proverbs 17:22.

 

“It’s easy to get addicted to the constant feed of what’s new and shocking, but that’s an unhealthy habit. My worry decreases significantly when I cut back on my intake of the news.”—John.

 

To think about: How often do you really need to be updated on the news?
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=501100018&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=4

 

I'm happy with how I limit my news intake. 

[Tortuga]

14 hours ago, Barbllm said:

I haven't been afraid of nuclear war in a long time and I'm angry that I'm afraid of it again

I understand how you feel. The world is getting scarier every day. OTOH, it shows we are on the right road and the end is in sight. I really appreciate the 2020 #1 Awake, it has some practical suggestions on how to deal with stress.

[Barbllm]

1 hour ago, Jim Jam said:

 

Why are you afraid of a nuclear war? If it happens we won't get to live through it

I don't want to die. Nobody does. I think I'm more afraid of losing one or both of my kids to an errant missile attack than anything else.

 

 

[Jim Jam]

The early Christians weren't afraid of dying, they were in fact eager to go be thrown to the lions because they knew that they would be resurrected for their loyalty to God. 

 

It was their fearlessness in the face of death that made Christians different from the Romans, and their courage is what attracted many people to the faith.

 

So don't be afraid dear sister, be proud of your secure future and show boldness for knowing that Jehovah will not abandon any of us in the grave. Our love for God is stronger than our fears of war  ☺️

Edited 4 hours ago by Jim Jam

[Shawnster]

1 hour ago, Jim Jam said:

The early Christians weren't afraid of dying, they were in fact eager to go be thrown to the lions because they knew that they would be resurrected for their loyalty to God. 

 

There is a big difference between being brave in the face of persecution and potentially losing one's life due to war or natural disaster. 

 

And, yes, some Christians fleeing Jerusalem ahead of the Romans may have been afraid to lose their lives. They fled because they did not want to die. 

 

You might want to consider how insensitive you sound 

[Jim Jam]

I guess I'm not very good at encouraging others

[Brandon]

https://san.com/cc/iran-closes-strait-of-hormuz-after-israel-launches-attacks-inside-lebanon/

> Iran said Israel’s continued attacks in Lebanon violated the agreement.

 

well that didn’t take long…

Edited 2 hours ago by Brandon

[Barbllm]

2 hours ago, Jim Jam said:

The early Christians weren't afraid of dying, they were in fact eager to go be thrown to the lions because they knew that they would be resurrected for their loyalty to God. 

 

It was their fearlessness in the face of death that made Christians different from the Romans, and their courage is what attracted many people to the faith.

 

So don't be afraid dear sister, be proud of your secure future and show boldness for knowing that Jehovah will not abandon any of us in the grave. Our love for God is stronger than our fears of war  ☺️

I understand what you are saying.

 

However, there is a huge difference between being martyred for your faith and dying in a giant fireball or being slowly killed by radiation fallout.

 

With the first one (martyrdom) there is an option: recant or renounce your faith. I would not do this, but the choice is there.

 

With the second (nuclear war), there is no option but death either immediately or slowly.

 

I realize that not all of us may live through the Great Tribulation and Armageddon but I would like to, and I would like my kids to live through that also. 

[Brandon]

And the White House just said “reports that Iran re-closed the strait of Hormuz are false” lol who even knows what’s true these days… (below quotes from san.com, same as earlier link)

> The Iranian government announced Wednesday morning the Strait of Hormuz was again closed

 

> Iranian media agency Fars reported that the government allowed two tankers to leave the Strait “after obtaining permission from Iran,” NBC News reported. However, further passages were halted because of Israel’s strikes inside Lebanon.

Edited 2 hours ago by Brandon

[Tortuga]

25 minutes ago, Jim Jam said:

I guess I'm not very good at encouraging others

You tried, and we appreciate that.

[Jim Jam]

9 minutes ago, Barbllm said:

With the second (nuclear war), there is no option but death either immediately or slowly.

 

You are right, that why I said that if it happens there is no need to fear because we have a sure hope of living again, like the early martyrs did

 

But if what I said is incensitive then I apologize

[ChrisW]

1 hour ago, Jim Jam said:

I guess I'm not very good at encouraging others

Brother, I think what you said was very encouraging. I'm sure the intent was to help the sister see with eyes of faith. Don't be downhearted. 

[Shawnster]

Yes, I apologize @Jim Jam. If the other person took it fine, then it wasn't insensitive 

[SteveAus]

The topic of religion is getting a workout in this current conflict...

 

 

 

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To be sure, U.S. presidents have throughout history invoked the Christian faith in times of war. But the experts interviewed by Reuters said the Trump administration's use of stark, unequivocal language to frame and justify violence in explicitly religious terms sets it apart.

 

"It's the same language as the crusades of the Middle Ages. You know, we must stop the infidel, we must defeat the wicked," said John Fea, a history professor at Messiah University who has written extensively about evangelicals and politics. "We've never seen anything like this in American history."

 

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Edited 1 hour ago by SteveAus