Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[computerwiz]

 

Just to add further, you can see how things are progressing with misinformation.  And now AI.  Soon, you will not be able to believe anything you see on the internet.  People will be in such disbelief about anything contrary to what they currently believe, that convincing them otherwise will be impossible.

 

At that point, who else can be saved?  It will be extremely extremely rare.  That is a good time to shut things down & bring about the GT...

 

Of course, just opinion.  We will see how things actually progress....

[Doug]

10 minutes ago, computerwiz said:

 

Every time Jehovah brought about divine destruction, the people were beyond hope.  They were given ample time, but the people were so far gone, there were no redeemable qualities....

 

True.  Although they were still buying and selling, marrying   .   .     A degree of normalcy is how the FDS puts it.

Edited May 8, 2023 by Doug

[computerwiz]

6 minutes ago, Doug said:

Although they were still buying and selling, marrying   .   .     A degree of normalcy

 

Why yes...yes they were.

 

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Matthew 24:37-39: 37 For just as the days of Noah were,+ so the presence of the Son of man will be.+ 38 For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,+ 39 and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away,+ so the presence of the Son of man will be.

 

They were doing all these "normal" things while half-demon hybrids were roaming the earth, being brutally violent and doing all manner of bad things under the sun.

 

Our modern time will be no different.  People will eventually get to the point of being "beyond saving" and still be doing "normal" things as well.  They are not mutually exclusive.

 

The question though is will they actually get to the "beyond saving" point, like in times past, or will Jehovah simply wait until enough is enough.  Cannot be dogmatic about either possibility.

 

[Doug]

37 minutes ago, computerwiz said:

 

Our modern time will be no different.  People will eventually get to the point of being "beyond saving" and still be doing "normal" things as well.  

 

 

They may be "beyond saving" already , since we are searching only for those "rightly disposed".

 

w91 1/15 pp. 15-20:  "Those not rightly disposed for everlasting life will not become believers.  It is not possible for them to exercise faith".

[jps]

1 hour ago, Goldenstate cruiser said:

Matthew 24:44    ".........the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it."

wow

maybe this friday because i dont expect it😄

[Doug]

4 minutes ago, jps said:

wow

maybe this friday because i dont expect it😄

 

I wasn't expecting it yesterday.  But it didn't happen anyway.   What went wrong?    

[Fallbrookian]

33 minutes ago, Doug said:

 

I wasn't expecting it yesterday.  But it didn't happen anyway.   What went wrong?    

Tomorrow sounds good to me. 😍

[Tortuga]

1 hour ago, Doug said:

 

I wasn't expecting it yesterday.  But it didn't happen anyway.   What went wrong?    

Someone else was expecting it. We need to pick a day that no one is expecting... But then we will all be expecting it that day. Its a Catch-22...

[JennyM]

 

It says, Jesus most likely know when the end comes.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/402016527?q=Jesus+know+when+is+the+hour&p=par

[Tortuga]

9 minutes ago, JennyM said:

Jesus most likely know when the end comes

Do you think that Satan and the demons know the exact day?

[Fallbrookian]

6 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

Do you think that Satan and the demons know the exact day?

Absolutely not.

[JennyM]

10 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

Do you think that Satan and the demons know the exact day?

Nothing has written in our publication. 

[Pabo]

3 hours ago, Tortuga said:

Someone else was expecting it. We need to pick a day that no one is expecting... But then we will all be expecting it that day. Its a Catch-22...

 

I just know that that day will come on a day that ends with "day".

[Doug]

1 hour ago, Tortuga said:

Do you think that Satan and the demons know the exact day?

 

"Exact day" ?   Not necessarily.  But they might be able to make a very close guess.

 

Isn't it Satan who will influence the demonic lie of P&S?   Doesn't he know what happens "instantly" afterward?

[Sofia]

8 hours ago, Tortuga said:

Do you think that Satan and the demons know the exact day?

I dont think so, beause they were cast out from Heavens last century. They dont have access to priveledged informations. 

[WestBro]

We don't know what event (or events) will lead the nations to proclaim peace and security. We do not yet know how BTG will be involved in this and how the beast will turn on her from one hour to the next. 

 

But what strengthens our faith is to realize that the stage is being set behind the scenes:

 

Ever more intense pushing and shoving between KOTN and KOTS;

 

• Moral decay getting worse and worse;

 

• BTG involved with many crimes and getting involved in controversies with governments;

 

• Economic system heading for a dead end.

 

These are a few points, but I believe this helps us see the big picture. Won't be late!

 

[New World Explorer]

16 hours ago, jps said:

wow

maybe this friday because i dont expect it😄

I really count on Thursday! Now Friday is to be expected LOL 🤣

[New World Explorer]

12 hours ago, Tortuga said:

Do you think that Satan and the demons know the exact day?

I don't think so, he is an enemy of Jehovah.

Jesus did not know the date, why Satan needs to be given such a confidential information?

However, Satan being highly intelligent being can figure out a lot of things.

He can see that his time is almost up. 

1914-2023 ... no brainer the time is approaching fast. 

 

Therefore his fury is reflected in today's turmoil. 

 

 

[JennyM]

 

[zoebarry]

1 hour ago, JennyM said:

 

that happened two weeks ago, nothing came of it.....

 

[Tortuga]

1 hour ago, JennyM said:

 

Here is an interesting summary of what happened.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-08/china-making-move-ukraine-putin-xi-zelenskyy-us/102313290

[JennyM]

4 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

Here is an interesting summary of what happened.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-08/china-making-move-ukraine-putin-xi-zelenskyy-us/102313290

At least, its one of the attempt and one day the prophecy will be fulfilled.

[Miss Bea]

I say this weeks midweek talk on economic crises. That was a bit bone chilling. Self examination, a necessity! 

[computerwiz]

13 minutes ago, Miss Bea said:

I say this weeks midweek talk on economic crises. That was a bit bone chilling. Self examination, a necessity! 

 

Indeed.  Haven't had our meeting yet, but I saw the article.  And then I saw about storing a reasonable supply of food.  And now I'm thinking about telling people about MREs that you can store in the attic that can withstand heat & cold and will be good for 5 years.  But now I have to restrain myself from hijacking another thread.....  

 

 

 

But yeah, the fact that we have to think about these things, and how we are constantly being reminded to "get ready" "get ready" "get ready" should tell us how close we are!!

[cme]

The government could falter next month.  Social Security checks for seniors that are retired will possibly be hindered.