Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Cool.As.Ice]

On 2/26/2025 at 2:07 PM, Dustparticle said:

KOTN and KOTS are rule by old gumps who do not know how to rule and we can see this  in their local news

None of these rulers know how to rule. (Jer 10:23)

[Shawnster]

2 hours ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

I’m confused. Is Trump with or against Russia?

Yes 

[LeslieDean]

2 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Yes 

Even more confusing unless that is the answer. Sometimes he is, sometimes he isn't.

[chuck83]

16 minutes ago, LeslieDean said:

Even more confusing unless that is the answer. Sometimes he is, sometimes he isn't.

27 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Yes 

Hehe it's because he's a businessman aka SALESMAN. Salesmen will make themselves anything you want for the deal. Think about a car salesmen specifically used and then you understand why "yes" is the appropriate answer.

[LeslieDean]

He is also a comedic genius. Don't see it in him but when someone impersonates his speech word for word it is hysterical. It is mine boggling to me how he has gotten so far . It is like watching the fairy tale Emporur who had no clothes only it is his fan base who sees his fine threads...so appreciative of our wise King and his rulership.

[pnutts]

Call of ( no ) peace & ( no ) security can wait at least until we have seen episodes 2 n 3 of Good News by Jesus videos.🙄

[Ahuvah]

58 minutes ago, pnutts said:

Call of ( no ) peace & ( no ) security can wait at least until we have seen episodes 2 n 3 of Good News by Jesus videos.🙄

Think they are up to episodes 7 or more now, if P&S GT happens we can all binge watch them in the  New World.

[Michał]

A secular blogger who is into debunking fake „scientific” news shared opinion how the world could look like if governments and societies continue their actions and don’t take rapid climate change seriously.

I’m so happy I know about kingdom happenening very soon.

Translated by Apple Translate app:

I've been thinking a lot lately how it will be in connection with this whole mental failure of the Western world...

World 2030: Chronicle of the Fall

Imagine the year 2030. Without wrapping it, the world around us is exactly what was warned of in official scientific reports a dozen or so years ago, before successive governments finally abandoned their efforts to support climate and public health (after all, what will be done to win elections?). Experts at the time, representatives of science, health organizations, the IPCC climate panel (liqued a few years ago for political reasons and budget cuts) warned clearly, but were ignored. Societies simply did not believe, because it was easier to deny the facts than to take any action.

Now is the year 2030. There is a shortage of places in European hospitals every year. Massive returns of almost forgotten infectious diseases - measles, whooping cough, polio - are already the norm. Only the wealthiest can afford private, fortune-costing care, inaccessible to ordinary citizens. The suspension of further public vaccination programs, which gradually increased through the 1920s, today has its direct and tragic consequences. Scientists are not surprised - they warned that this is what will happen. But then no one listened to them.

There is also a growing social conflict - not only over health care, but also over increasingly limited resources of essential raw materials, including food or water. Global climate change, which experts have been alarmed about and which have been consistently ignored over the years, have become an everyday life that is no longer even tried to be denied at this stage. Droughts are already devastating even agricultural parts of Europe, seasonal extreme rainfall is destroying yields on other continents. Every year, food prices are rising dramatically, becoming another hotbed of social tension, protests and increasingly violent riots. Once forgotten conflicts - over clean water, access to agricultural land or basic resources - are today the everyday life of local communities not only in the previously problematic regions of the global south, but also in the heart of the rich West.

Year 2035. The wave of climate refugees, until recently associated only with the tropical zones of the poor world or disaster films, is reaching the borders of Europe or the United States. People flee en masse, trying to find at least relative peace and a chance to support their families. The rich countries of the West, struggling to cope with their own economic degradation and growing social chaos, react by closing their borders. The situation is similar to that of a decade ago, but today the scale of the problem is dramatically greater (I'm talking about tens/hundreds of millions of migrants). A few decades ago, scientists' alarms or IPCC reports warned that this would happen. Now no one even listens to experts - they have not held important positions for a long time, often simply choosing silence, self-censorship, because nothing can actually be done anyway.

Year 2040. Protests are constantly repeated on the streets of cities. Social tensions are reaching levels that we have not recorded for many decades. The former optimism of post-war stability from the second half of the 20th century has now been completely forgotten. Now social conflicts are mainly due to unequal access to basic resources and health care. The collapse of social trust is complete. Hospitals barely function, epidemiological crises occur regularly, and people helplessly watch their families refuse treatment because of the lack of money or places in public facilities, because the system is simply completely unexploited.

A neighbor differs from a neighbor today not only in material status, but even in a chance of survival. Still living in the same neighborhoods or streets, wealthier people lead their lives relatively safely, paying huge sums for health services, medical care, clean water and good food. Next to them, the vast majority live in constant frustration, anxiety about the future and growing anger. They are a kind of powder keg, with which it is difficult to predict what will happen.

No one has officially used climate research for a long time - former scientific institutions have been closed, and most experts have dispersed and abandoned the industry. We only know that the weather is constantly deteriorating, natural disasters are becoming the new norm, and old IPCC reports are already being said only ironically as a missed opportunity: "we could have listened, but we chose otherwise".

Whatever happens next, one thing is certain today - we haven't done our homework. The stories of scientists' warnings from the beginning of the third decade of the 21st century have been meticulously documented and widely published. We were able to use all this available knowledge. We could do something. But we could not, or simply did not want to draw conclusions as people, until we were painfully affected by the consequences of total neglect.

Or is this the natural destiny of people as a society? Maybe we can't act early enough when disaster could still be avoided? Now, from the perspective of 2040, it is far too late to turn back this wave of events that we began to set in motion many years before. How our history goes on, no one has the courage to predict anymore. No one has the slightest doubt anymore that everything has been written/foreseen a long time ago, and we have entered the unknown... especially in reports such as the IPCC, in which participation in 2025. The USA accused, followed by the rest of the populistly tempted world. Like moths are fire. The pendulum completely towards denial went and the next decade entitled "let's check if they were right".

It starts like a catastrophic book/script, doesn't it? Only that it's not a book.... we'll actually check.


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[Mike047]

11 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

How about you give us a summary?

How about you check it out for yourself?

[Hotteok]

Is Trump trying to make UN stronger?

 

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/03/nx-s1-5285696/trump-un-human-rights-council-withdrawal

[LeolaRootStew]

15 hours ago, Mike047 said:

If anyone bothers to watch the various news items concerning the various meetings between heads of state; give some time, not to listen to their words so much but rather to watch their body language. You can learn a lot from that.

3 hours ago, Mike047 said:

How about you check it out for yourself?

 

It? I don't want to sound harsh, but your original statement is too vague. 

 

Which "heads of state" should we be watching? What time-frame?

 

Assuming I can even figure that out, what conclusion am I supposed to draw? They are stressed? They are suspicious? Angry? Hungry? 

 

It would take me literally hours to come to the conclusion that I still have no idea what I'm supposed to learn from this. Why don't you just plainly state what conclusions you have drawn from your research?

[LeslieDean]

13 hours ago, Ahuvah said:

RE: The extent of Politic in World affairs, events and in our own lives is extensive, even when we are neutral. 

If you think about the New World the extent of our kingdom will be seen in every nook and cranny, so we shouldn't be surprised how permeated the effects of politics are now. 

 

I think about what one brother in particular says to me every time we work together

 'No matter what the question is  the answer is always the kingdom". When you compare that to advice I was raised with 'never discuss politics and religion or never mix politics with religion" I can see why we are taught to be neutral, patient, reasonable, tolerable, because these qualities are central to our preaching. I can not separate the word politics from government so I have a hard time feeling neutral when my central purpose is to live in support of God's kingdom. Haven't we essentially cast our vote in support of the kingdom ? So to be neutral is a feeling that does not come easy. I guess I need to work on compartmentalizing my feelings and controlling my internal emotions. It is hard for me to understand not mixing politics (not worldly politics) with religion. I'm looking for help in explaining

 Ahuvah said it beautifully, it effects every nook and cranny.

[LeslieDean]

12 minutes ago, LeslieDean said:

I can not separate the word politics from government so I have a hard time feeling neutral when my central purpose is to live in support of God's kingdom. Haven't we essentially cast our vote in support of the kingdom ? So to be neutral is a feeling that does not come easy.

I think I just answered my own question by simply asking Google. Lol. It explained it simply 

politics is the process or activity through which power is gained and lost, whereas government is a system for exercising authority.

 

Government is an institution; Politics is a process.

Edited Friday at 02:46 PM by LeslieDean

[Mike047]

1 hour ago, LeolaRootStew said:

It? I don't want to sound harsh, but your original statement is too vague. 

 

Which "heads of state" should we be watching? What time-frame?

Without pointing to any specific heads of state, it may perhaps just be better listen to the rhetoric. 

[Cool.As.Ice]

Something extraordinary has just happened. Seems that “peace and security” is even further away:

 

This is an open argument between Trump and Zelenskyy; WOW! Usually this is behind closed doors, but these guys are duking it out in the open!

[Dolce vita]

28 minutes ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

Something extraordinary has just happened. Seems that “peace and security” is even further away:

 

This is an open argument between Trump and Zelenskyy; WOW! Usually this is behind closed doors, but these guys are duking it out in the open!

Unprecedented verbal violence, never seen that. Perhaps what could precede THE cry that could make everyone believe that peace is finally here.

[Osprey]

This are very very important events that happened today. Things may go much lower from here, before P&S in my opinion. If things will continue this way I will not be surprised if in few months Russia will enter Estonia, Lithuania or Latvia (or all of them). USA will refuse to help and say that they are warmongers because they gave all their weapons to Ukraine and have a very hawkish stance towards Russia. That will essentially be the end of Nato, which is Russia's dream. Rest of Europe will not dare to act alone without USA (or provoke a big war, if they do act). Also for Ukraine it will be very difficult to resist without US support.

Edited Friday at 08:12 PM by Osprey

[jps]

40 minutes ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

Something extraordinary has just happened. Seems that “peace and security” is even further away:

 

This is an open argument between Trump and Zelenskyy; WOW! Usually this is behind closed doors, but these guys are duking it out in the open!

 

hm,

looks a bit staged,

one is called a clown, 

a clown is an an actor,

the other one is indeed an actor

 

 

[Tortuga]

"Making America Great Again" but what does it mean to be "Great"?

Is it being kind and generous?

Is it being peaceful and helpful?

Is it being strong and dominant?

Is it being wealthy and powerful?

Is it being selfish and self-centered?

Does it mean changing the system no matter who it affects?

 

Apparently, the word "Great" can mean many things...

[Áine]

5 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

"Making America Great Again" but what does it mean to be "Great"?

Is it being kind and generous?

Is it being peaceful and helpful?

Is it being strong and dominant?

Is it being wealthy and powerful?

Is it being selfish and self-centered?

Does it mean changing the system no matter who it affects?

 

Apparently, the word "Great" can mean many things...

I have seen many Americans online saying how embarrassed they are right now ..

[New World Explorer]

So political leaders unable to solve the problem on their own? Perhaps 🤔 Rev 17:17 will play role in that ….? 

[Dustparticle]

2 hours ago, Áine said:

I have seen many Americans online saying how embarrassed they are right now ..

 Thank God I have some ancestors from Quebec, Scotland, Ireland, France, and Middle East.

[ChrisW]

2 hours ago, jps said:

 

hm,

looks a bit staged,

one is called a clown, 

a clown is an an actor,

the other one is indeed an actor

 

 

I was just telling my husband that.  It seemed like a performance to me.  You're trying to get a peace deal and you're going to fight over saying thank you.  I don't think this deal was ever going to really happen. 

[Dark King]

I wonder if US and Russia will become friends by way of the Us churches and the Russian Orthodox Church.

 

https://youtu.be/02P_jcSHWrw?si=N5hLp-2hYhNGAFeD

[Ahuvah]

Just now, Dark King said:

I wonder if US and Russia will become friends by way of the Us churches and the Russian Orthodox Church.

 

https://youtu.be/02P_jcSHWrw?si=N5hLp-2hYhNGAFeD

Well, the wording in Brother Jackson's visual timeline said something along the lines of perhaps with the urging of false religion ... (not verbatim) .. so they haven't ruled it in or out... could be. They are certainly still prostituting themselves with the wild beast.