Charlie Kirk asassinated

[Friend of Peace]

So horrific.
 

What is also appalling is seeing some people comment and video themselves celebrating that he’s been murdered! It reminds me of how Jehovah views people who celebrate over evil things that happen to others, they will be held to account for their vile inhumane behaviour and attitudes. (Obadiah 13, 15) 

 

The Bible always got it spot on, some people have “no natural affection” and proverbially pat the killer on the back. (2 Tim. 3:3)

 

I’ll be keeping his family in my prayers tonight. 

Edited Wednesday at 11:25 PM by Friend of Peace

[CHecker]

This is simply awful. I appreciated how plainly he spoke, how he refuted the nonsense out there. Of course not into any politics but his level headedness amongst the craziest was great to see.

I just now saw the video of his shooting, that shooter must have been an assassin. It surely reminded me of Kennedy. 

 

Wonder how he'll feel when he wakes in the resurrection. 

[Dages]

The video is awful. His wife and children saw it live... terrible.

[Hope]

Any death is tragic. He did, however, claim that some gun deaths were a necessary price to pay... 

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“It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment”   https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-its-worth-have-cost-unfortunately-some-gun-deaths-every-single-year-so-we

 

 I'm sorry for his young family... 😕 

Edited Thursday at 02:01 AM by trottigy

[trottigy]

We need God's kingdom and the elimination of all the amendments including the second - as none of them will be necessary.

[Brother_Bliss]

23 minutes ago, Hope said:

Any death is tragic. He did, however, claim that some gun deaths were a necessary price to pay... 

 

And he would still stand by what he said had he survived. 

 

This death is horrific. It ranks up there, for me, with others such as Steve Irwin the crocodile hunter. 

 

It underscores the importance of not just political neutrality, but also being careful expressing your opinions on social issues. 

[Shawnster]

3 hours ago, Friend of Peace said:

What is also appalling is seeing some people comment and video themselves celebrating that he’s been murdered!

Quite. 

 

Sadly, this is par for the course. This is the world. Someone, say a political personality, dies and his supporters mourn while his opponents rejoice. Doesn't matter the side or their particular flavor of politics, the comments are always along this pattern. 

 

It's disgusting and shows how important political neutrality is. There is never an excuse to rejoice over anyone's death. 

3 hours ago, CHecker said:

 I appreciated how plainly he spoke

 

His lines of reasoning, particularly on abortion, were very insightful. 

 

1 hour ago, Hope said:

 

 

Yes, the definition of irony. 

 

Although, this apparently was a planned assassination and not the result of a nut with a gun. If that really is the case, gun control laws may not have mattered. 

 

But it definitely is irony. 

Edited Thursday at 02:35 AM by trottigy

[Julsey]

1 hour ago, CHecker said:

This is simply awful. I appreciated how plainly he spoke, how he refuted the nonsense out there. Of course not into any politics but his level headedness amongst the craziest was great to see.

I just now saw the video of his shooting, that shooter must have been an assassin. It surely reminded me of Kennedy. 

 

Wonder how he'll feel when he wakes in the resurrection. 

Yes, it was always refreshing to watch someone who really knew how to not only present an argument, but also question people in such a way as to make them seriously examine what they believed. What a terrible day. 

[Julsey]

8 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Although, this apparently was a planned assassination and not the result of a nut with a gun. If that really is the case, gun control laws may not have mattered. 

Gun laws don’t matter ever. There were fewer gun laws 60 years ago, but gun crimes were few compared to today. Anti-social behaviour wasn’t tolerated. And murder has been illegal since the beginning, but it hasn’t stopped anyone intent on murdering. 

[Dages]

The murder of Charlie Kirk could excite some antireligious movement

[chuck83]

Just now, Dages said:

The murder of Charlie Kirk could excite some antireligious movement

 

I'm being completely neutral but he was pretty bad and his "debates" hurt people regardless if they were right or wrong. It's exactly what not to do even for witnesses getting into useless debates about current topics. Love & humility go a long way with your message. I'm sure Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro will adjust their public posture. 

[Jwanon]

4 minutes ago, chuck83 said:

his "debates" hurt people regardless if they were right or wrong

 

Our preaching hurts people regardless of us being right. Feelings are irrelevant when truth is involved.  

Edited Thursday at 03:59 AM by Jwanon

[chuck83]

Just now, Jwanon said:

 

Our preaching hurts people despite us being right. 

 

I rather be hurt by the truth than love the lie.

[Jwanon]

Just now, chuck83 said:

 

I rather be hurt by the truth than love the lie.

 

Yes, that's also what Kirk believed

[chuck83]

10 minutes ago, Jwanon said:

 

Yes, that's also what Kirk believed

 

Real truth is shown with love creating compassion. Love People, Make Disciples is truth with love. Invoking positive feelings for potential Bible students. While truth matters I agree, feelings do also. Where did he land in your opinion?

[Jwanon]

42 minutes ago, chuck83 said:

feelings do also.

 

Less so than truth 

 

If truth offends someone, then it's on them. Not on the bearer of truth

 

42 minutes ago, chuck83 said:

Where did he land in your opinion?

 

He was a guy telling the truth about abortion and the lgbt movement. The fact that he was assassinated for his opinions shows that putting feelings over reason provokes violent reactions

Edited Thursday at 05:15 AM by Jwanon

[CHecker]

4 minutes ago, Jwanon said:

 putting feelings over reason provokes violent reactions

Nearly everything in this unrighteous system provokes violence. Determinations people make come from perception, the perceptions people have come out of "lives full of agitation". But this is what Satan is- what he loves, confusion, agitation, angst, hostility....looking for a reason to do wretched things. He's not known as 'the deceiver' for nothing. 

[chuck83]

11 minutes ago, Jwanon said:

 

Less so than truth 

 

If truth offends someone, then it's on them. Not on the bearer of truth

 

 

He was a guy telling the truth about abortion and the lgbt movement. The fact that he was assassinated for his opinions shows that putting feelings over reason provokes violent reactions

 

I'll yield back on this for neutrality sake. Thank you for your summations. 🙂

[Miss Bea]

I’ve never heard of him. Period. I try to not hear opinions, this way or that way. To me, it’s all the same. From the father of the lie. 
I glance at headlines, most of the time and move on. Spare me the details, please.

[Cushi]

I can’t even imagine the level of evil and heartlessness a person would have to possess to shoot someone in front of their wife and young children like that.

I don’t know what angered me more. Him being killed in front of his family, a large crowd, and cameras, or people filming themselves laughing about it and posting jokes in the comment section of some videos about the coverage. My sympathy has nothing to do with any political views I may or may not have. I hate both the Democratic and Republican parties equally because I know they are both immersed in corruption and run by actors, deceivers, and puppets who can’t offer what God’s kingdom can. At the end of the day, a life was lost. 

 

I saw several short videos of him debating people a few weeks before his death. Besides his controversial debating style, I didn’t know much about him, but it seemed he had a fervor for what he believed. I pray that if there was good in his heart that Christ remembers him in the resurrection so he can direct that fervor to doing Jehovah’s will, instead of trying to do the impossible with a crooked political system that can’t be made straight. 

[Dages]

This is an evil world... 

[Jwanon]

I saw a close up video of his killing, lots of blood. It's very brutal

 

A woman has been bereaved of a husband, and children of their father

 

Only God through Christ can bring everlasting peace and security

[Ostria]

1 hour ago, jrnievas said:

So what if during GT, someone triggers the “Internet Kill switch”.
No social medias, no JWTalk etc. 

 

Oh no the world is gonna be like in the 90s. Im sorry but i feel that social media as a whole was a mistake. It does nore harm than good especially for the littles.

 

As for Charlie Kirk, kinda sad he died. Ive seen peoole celebrate hia death. How miserable in your life do you need to be to praise someone dying. there's now a whole family that'll never be the same and you're popping champaign because he hurt your feelings? I think ive seen a few of his debates (its either him or another popular right wong debater but im 80% sure it was Charlie) and he tends to take the 'let the followers get caught up in their own lack of beliefs' route, which is something I do myself in and outside of the ministry. "oh you feel this way, can you back it up?" For examplr, one thing people love to do is say the bible promotes rape and will use the story of the brothers that murdered all those dudes after their sister got raped. They use their lack of a blessing as the bible promoting rape. You can kinda see where this logic falls apart, however if you correct them as to what actually happen you'll probably get blocked (at least i have).

[Damika]

1 hour ago, Ostria said:

As for Charlie Kirk, kinda sad he died. Ive seen peoole celebrate hia death. How miserable in your life do you need to be to praise someone dying. there's now a whole family that'll never be the same and you're popping champaign because he hurt your feelings? I think ive seen a few of his debates (its either him or another popular right wong debater but im 80% sure it was Charlie) and he tends to take the 'let the followers get caught up in their own lack of beliefs' route, which is something I do myself in and outside of the ministry. "oh you feel this way, can you back it up?" For examplr, one thing people love to do is say the bible promotes rape and will use the story of the brothers that murdered all those dudes after their sister got raped. They use their lack of a blessing as the bible promoting rape. You can kinda see where this logic falls apart, however if you correct them as to what actually happen you'll probably get blocked (at least i have).

I never knew who this guy was until yesterday.  Though difficult we need to remain neutral.  This man was a political activist who spoke some truths but not the THE Truth.  Never model any portion of our preaching work after someone whose words were not seasoned with salt and thrived off of useless debates and arguments - neither fits into what we do as JWs.

Edited Thursday at 12:19 PM by Damika
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[computerwiz]

I have a feeling this is going to blow up to be a MUCH bigger deal than we can possibly imagine at this point.

 

The air has changed.  Stay off social media for a bit.....it will destroy your neutrality.  The amount of "call to arms" over this incident is overwhelming & scary.  👀

 

But how timely our campaign!  Wow!!  While talks of civil war are erupting again, we have the REAL answer!!