Ukraine and how it may affect the US and Europe

[Trina]

I noticed that Putin stated that you would not hear shots fired but that is a different story than what this video shows.

[sunshine]

Re Getting excited.

 

For me the whole idea is that, just as with a womans labour pains the signs just keep getting stronger and stronger and the interval between incidents gets closer and closer until even those that don't have bible knowledge are aware that "SOMEthing" is immenent and that the system cannot possibly continue. 

 

We probably won't know the identity of the King of the North during the attack of Magog until it's happening but the "shoving" between East and West, something I for one thought had settled down after the collapse of the USSR, has been shown this week to be just as stronge but covert.  The superpowers are veying for power and energy resources and this will no doubt go on until the end...

 

I enjoy getting excited, keeps me Young!

[Mykyl]

Which is what this article said from 2004. http://m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2004084

 

"Since Bible prophecies are often fully understood only after they are fulfilled or are in the process of fulfillment, we will have to wait and see. It is of interest, though, that Paul compared the sudden destruction following the cry of “Peace and security!” to the birth pang of a pregnant woman. Over a period of about nine months, an expectant mother becomes increasingly aware of the baby that is growing within her. She may be able to hear her baby’s heartbeat or feel its movements in the womb. It may even kick her. The signs often become more and more pronounced until, one day, she feels a sharp pain, a pang, indicating that the hoped-for event—the baby’s birth—has arrived."

Edited March 5, 2014 by Mykyl

[Mykyl]

 

It just seems a continuation of the pushing and shoving - to me. If that is the case, than this too will fizzle out in a fairly short amount of time.

 

 

If this IS a continuation of the pushing and shoving that would be of interest. That would mean that finally we know who the King of the North is again. Wouldn't it? ;)

 

We don't know and we should wait and see.

It is best not to get over excited about things but to keep aware of what is happening in the world while preaching whenever we can to all those that will listen.

[Áine]

Whatever is happening between the East and West at the moment surely is significant, time will tell I guess.

Could this be the KOTN raising it's head or a confrontation that will then result in peace and security, everything large event that happens seems to be significant and I'm sure that everyone is paying close attention.

Events move so fast !!

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[Trina]

Exactly. It seems that almost every movement is in line with possible prophecy fulfillment right now. Wasn't it April that there was a deadline for Israel to decide something? Crazy little thought but...wouldn't it be something if the UN and Gov. Joined together to decide no more public display of religious denomination to be able to obtain a peace deal...now that would be a surprise and sneaky like a thief... Probably won't go that easy though. It certainly would be easy for us to see it was prophecy fulfillment though.

[Trina]

News clip from Fox News today. People are asking why the US doesn't fight back basically and pushing for more action against Russia.

[timpin]

Whatever is happening between the East and West at the moment surely is significant, time will tell I guess.

Could this be the KOTN raising it's head or a confrontation that will then result in peace and security, everything large event that happens seems to be significant and I'm sure that everyone is paying close attention.

Events move so fast !!

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[dennisdg]

Interesting events...

Obama orders asset freeze, visa bans against those involved in Russian move on Ukraine.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-orders-asset-freeze-visa-bans-against-those-131413277.html

[New World Explorer]

No individual nation can tackle current events, especially dispute over Ukraine....and Syria, Israel and Palestine... List goes on and on .

Will the nations give more power to the UN ? Well we must wait and see ....

The ten horns that you saw mean ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings for one hour with the wild beast. Revelation chapter 11.

We must be very alert and not distracted by this system , things change amazingly quickly these days ....

Agape

[timpin]

Exactly. It seems that almost every movement is in line with possible prophecy fulfillment right now. Wasn't it April that there was a deadline for Israel to decide something? Crazy little thought but...wouldn't it be something if the UN and Gov. Joined together to decide no more public display of religious denomination to be able to obtain a peace deal...now that would be a surprise and sneaky like a thief... Probably won't go that easy though. It certainly would be easy for us to see it was prophecy fulfillment though.

Excellant discussion/thoughts going on here also   >   ...  http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/9495-king-of-the-north-and-king-of-the-south/page-9#entry202134  ...   should be an interesting  week/month of activity ahead!   ....   for all of us.

Edited March 7, 2014 by timpin

[campanula]

I noticed that Putin stated that you would not hear shots fired but that is a different story than what this video shows.

So, Should I believe this video or my own ears? 

You are free to believe what you want.

Edited March 7, 2014 by campanula

[campanula]

Interesting events...

Obama orders asset freeze, visa bans against those involved in Russian move on Ukraine.

 

Do not be involved in the information  war,

I'm telling you - actually it is Crimea (the part of Ukraine at this moment) wants to move IN to Russia.

Here a link on live webcams, you may check whole the situation by yourself.

 http://sevastopolis.com/webcam

[zoebarry]

Do not be involved in the information  war,

I'm telling you - actually it is Crimea (the part of Ukraine at this moment) wants to move IN to Russia.

Here a link on live webcams, you may check whole the situation by yourself.

 http://sevastopolis.com/webcam

I went to the webcam site, but those pics are from February 27th.  Anything more recent?

[timpin]

everyone take the weekend off, no more war, retaliation or talk of war till Monday after breakfast   ...   or coffee break   ...   or lunch, yeah that's it Lunch, but before dinner - so we can watch the 6pm news, thank you.

[User_123]

http://www.sunherald.com/2014/03/07/5397789/ukraine-may-turn-to-un-general.html

Ukraine may turn to UN General Assembly

....."Sergeyev said the General Assembly could use a "Uniting for Peace" provision which allows the body to hold an emergency session on issues of peace and security if the council is deadlocked".....

how do I make something BOLD? Don't see the tools. or do u gotta use html or something?

[Allabord4Jah]

Its a sideline wait for us.  We are at nearing the goal post, so keep neutral in all affairs of this present world.  

[User_123]

TEST

BOLD

ITALIC

UNDERLINE ...no underline?

JWTALK ...bold italic underline (no underline?)

Edited March 8, 2014 by User_123

[Stavro]

how do I make something BOLD? Don't see the tools. or do u gotta use html or something?

If the editing icons are present in the reply box but grayed out, click the  'switch' icon at the top left of the reply box.

 

If the editing icons are missing from the reply box altogether, click the ◀ 'expand' icon at the top right of the reply box.

[bohemian]

If the editing icons are present in the reply box but grayed out, click the 'switch' icon at the top left of the reply box.

If the editing icons are missing from the reply box altogether, click the ◀ 'expand' icon at the top right of the reply box.

And if they are entirely missing as on my iPd, then what?
Edited March 8, 2014 by bohemian

[User_123]

And if they are entirely missing as on my iPd, then what?

tools are totally missing for me too. even when I force load the desktop version of the site on my Droid tablet. I just used HTML instead. pretty simple. bold n italic work by typing a "B" or an "I" in brackets at the start of a word "[ B]" (without the space b4 the B ). and at the end of the word its the same characters but add a forward slash b4 the letter "[ /B]" (no space b4 slash)

[ B]whatever u want to bold[ /B] (again omit spaces)

b

Edited March 9, 2014 by User_123

[campanula]

  ...    thank you.

 

 

You're welcome.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us2yUn30Xm8#t=223

[SeedSower]

everyone take the weekend off, no more war, retaliation or talk of war till Monday after breakfast   ...   or coffee break   ...   or lunch, yeah that's it Lunch, but before dinner - so we can watch the 6pm news, thank you.

I agree even further then the weekend.  I think no political opinions should be written here.  It has been so difficult for me here in USA.  Parents are Ukrainian and I am 1st generation Amer/Ukr.  I was baptized in 2012 & seeing all the news about Ukraine gets those "put aside nationalistic" feelings creeping up fast. I used to be very involved. I just wish that Russia would respect the border laws. Don't use the people in Crimea as an excuse-saying they want to be with Putin and they're asking for his help.  They chose to live in Ukraine and some were purposely displaced there.  It doesn't matter how many Russian speaking vs Ukrainian speaking  individuals live in Crimea.  Crimea belongs to Ukraine.  If other European countries would stand up to Putin and not be afraid that he's going to cut them off from selling products would mean a great deal and would make a difference.   See I get so worked up, I pray to Jehovah to help me not get so upset and to help me stay neutral. 

Edited March 11, 2014 by SeedSower

[cricket246]

Soon, someone is going to stand up to ALL worldly rulers...Jehovah! And when he brings forth justice, no one will be able to argue with his decisions, as they will be just and very final

[campanula]

 It doesn't matter how many Russian speaking vs Ukrainian speaking  individuals live in Crimea. 

Crimea belongs to Ukraine.  

First  - it does matter. I want  and I will speak and write Russian finally! Hurray! )'> 

Second - Crimea belongs to Crimean people since yesterday and Ukraine would have to swallow this.

This is a fact and I'm really sorry if you don't like this.

 

And notice - I'm absolutely politically neutral.