Why Doctors got it wrong with Fat.

[boodles]

Even though saturated fat is not the worst fat, I think it still has an effect on cholesterol and heart disease, no? And a gram of fat has 9 calories, so if you are trying to lose weight that is something to take into consideration since we can only lose weight by taking in less calories than we burn.

[Witness1970]

Even though saturated fat is not the worst fat, I think it still has an effect on cholesterol and heart disease, no? And a gram of fat has 9 calories, so if you are trying to lose weight that is something to take into consideration since we can only lose weight by taking in less calories than we burn.

There are good fat and bad fats. Some fat is necessary because of the fat soluble vitamins we get from eating fat. The claim is also that fat takes longer to digest and therefore stays in the stomach longer and you do not get that empty stomach feeling so often. On a fat burning diet like Atkins eating some fat is actually necessary.

[Greg Dent]

Read that article it claims saturated fats like butter are not bad for you and have nothing to do with your Cholesterol or triglycerides. 

 

Read the article.

[Toy Poodles]

Oh, and did i mention yogurt and soy milk? Lots of it!! And fruits especially bananas for the potassium, oranges for the vitamin C, and berries for the antioxidants.

And just a side note about soy. It's good for menopause for hot flashes as it either eliminates them or lessens them.

Soy is also good for the prostate as in prostate cancer.

Do the research.

 

Dear Luezette, please reconsider soy milk. 

Soy in the U.S. is genetically modified which causes all kinds of problems but even if that wasn't an issue soybean itself is inedible. It contains toxins meant to ward off insect predators. These include:

* anti-nutrients that prevent your body from absorbing essential minerals like calcium, magnesium, iron and zinc.

* enzyme inhibitors that make it harder for your body to absorb protein.

(Both of these substances can give you abdominal pain, gas, nausea, cramps and other gastrointestinal problems.)

* hemagglutinin, a substance that promotes blood clots.

* goitrogens, which cause gout and thyroid problems.

Societies that depend heavily on soy-based foods use traditional preparation methods thousands of years old that neutralize or eliminate these poisons.

Tempeh, miso, natto and soy sauce are fermented products. The fermentation process destroys the toxins. Tofu comes from the pressed “curds” of the soybean. The rest is thrown out – and the bad stuff along with it.

Compare this with the industrial processes that go into making soy milk: washing the beans in alkaline or boiling them in a petroleum-based solvent; bleaching, deodorizing and pumping them full of additives; heat-blasting and crushing them into flakes; and then mixing them with water to make “milk.”

This only adds more dangerous chemicals without removing any of soy’s natural toxins. This is NOT a “dietary staple” in China, Indonesia, or any other country. And it shouldn’t be here, either.

Claim: “Also, interest in soy is rising because scientists have discovered that a soy component called isoflavone appears to reduce the risk of certain diseases.”

Fact: The opposite is true. Recent science suggests soy “isoflavones” are dangerous to your health.

Isoflavone isn’t actually a single substance, but a category of substances. Isoflavones include “phyto-estrogens,” plant-based compounds that mimic the female hormone. Eat enough of these and you’ll upset your body’s hormonal balance.

The young are especially vulnerable: research published just last year found that soy-based phyto-estrogens can cause “precocious puberty.” The study focused on a four-and-a-half year old girl who had developed breasts because her parents fed her too much soy formula.

Clinical research also links two of these phyto-estrogens, genistein and daidzein, to childhood leukemia and breast cancer.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/soy-health_b_1822466.html

http://www.care2.com/greenliving/the-myths-and-facts-about-soy-milk.html

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2006/12/14/soy-milk-is-unhealthy.aspx

I love ya sis, and just want you to have the best health! Hugs!!

[kejedo]

Good thread on nutrition and some varied approaches. A group of sisters and myself are starting a 'healthy way' club this week (it will probably take a few weeks to get off the ground). People will be doing their own weigh-ins (should they choose) and keep their own records. We want to keep each other encouraged to become healthier through better food choices, regular exercise, and adequate hydration. Sisters will be using their own personal food plan. I have a few to recommend (having worked as a Nutritional Specialist in the past). We will be doing a resistance band exercise together and keep up our own exercises through out the week. Does anyone know of a downloadable food diary? 

[MizPeg]

Read that article it claims saturated fats like butter are not bad for you and have nothing to do with your Cholesterol or triglycerides. 

 

Read the article.

For good nutrition you must take in amino acids, which some are found in butter. 

[Witness1970]

Good thread on nutrition and some varied approaches. A group of sisters and myself are starting a 'healthy way' club this week (it will probably take a few weeks to get off the ground). People will be doing their own weigh-ins (should they choose) and keep their own records. We want to keep each other encouraged to become healthier through better food choices, regular exercise, and adequate hydration. Sisters will be using their own personal food plan. I have a few to recommend (having worked as a Nutritional Specialist in the past). We will be doing a resistance band exercise together and keep up our own exercises through out the week. Does anyone know of a downloadable food diary?

There are different food diaries at http://www.personal-nutrition-guide.com/. You can choose one of those or find differet ones by typing 'food diary journal' into google search.

[Witness1970]

For good nutrition you must take in amino acids, which some are found in butter.

Amino acids may not be as necessary as once thought. Humans, unlike a lot of animals have something called a protein recycle. Proteins, such as from dead cells, are broken down into amino acids and recycled back to be used by the body. A long time ago a lot of tests were done on rats to determine the protein needs of humans. But rats do not recycle protein and therefore need far more protein in their diet.

[Raindrop]

The problem with "findings", I always feel like this is the truth "now" promoting whatever they are promoting - may it be a diet, a medication or whatever. Then it changes down the road. Yet for everything they say, the claim is that it is backed up with research... So who/what to believe?

 

The butter thing: that is how people long ago lived! It was one of the staples in the house (like in Quebec here in Canada).

So at one time it was what people did and were they not OK? They had less cancer than now for sure.

So what made them change it? Why did their study show it was bad?

 

*feelinglost* too much info out there and it looks to me that is all about money in the end.

[kejedo]

I did not find current trackers that are downloadable. Every current site I found wants you to track online. I have a Weight Watcher tracker from the 60s (exchange program) that is printable. We will make our own adjustments. I also have a diabetic exchange list. I know we have a different thread (on this site) re: Low Carb. Some sisters may be using this approach. We have a few other options to try. Journaling is an effective tool.  

[Witness1970]

I did not find current trackers that are downloadable. Every current site I found wants you to track online. I have a Weight Watcher tracker from the 60s (exchange program) that is printable. We will make our own adjustments. I also have a diabetic exchange list. I know we have a different thread (on this site) re: Low Carb. Some sisters may be using this approach. We have a few other options to try. Journaling is an effective tool.

Would one of these help?

Daily Food Diary http://www.personal-nutrition-guide.com/free-food-diary.html

This food journal has space to keep track of the time you eat, what you eat, how much you eat, and calories. In addition, there's one blank column to keep track of another nutrient if you want to (grams protein, grams sugar, grams fiber, mg. sodium etc.) There's room to keep track of exercise and water intake as well.

Daily Food Log with Nutritional Balance http://www.personal-nutrition-guide.com/printable-food-diary.html

This printable food diary has space to keep track of 6 meals/day.

In addition, you can assess of how nutritionally balanced your diet is by checking off the appropriate food groups. For example, when you eat a piece of fruit, check off the "pear" column.

You can also tally calories and one additional nutrient of your choice using the blank column.

At the bottom of the daily food diary, keep track of how many hours of sleep you get, number of glasses of water you drink, energy level and exercise and fitness routines.

"Plan Meals In Advance" Daily Food Journal http://www.personal-nutrition-guide.com/printable-food-journal.html

This daily food journal has space to plan what you'll eat in advance. You can then record what you actually eat, and compare the two. Keeping a food log in this way helps make eating intentional ..the way it should be!

Weekly Food Journal http://personal-nutrition-guide.com/weekly-food-diary.html

This food journal and calorie tracker allows you to keep track of what you eat at all meals and snacks for an entire week. You can record exercise and water intake too.

Using a weekly food journal makes it easy to see trends in your eating patterns.

Food and Mood Daily Food Journal http://www.personal-nutrition-guide.com/food-diary-template.html

What you eat affects your mood, and your mood, in turn, affects your next choice of food. Food and mood are connected in a continuous cycle.

This daily food journal will help you get a handle on your patterns.

Printable Workout Log http://www.personal-nutrition-guide.com/printable-workout-log.html

This daily exercise journal has space to keep track of an extensive weight routine as well as cardiovascular activity and stretching routines.

I hope this works right. I copied the page but the links did not show up. Si I went back and edited the post to include the links. Again, I hope it works.

Edited April 28, 2015 by Witness1970

[Witness1970]

Randall, the Atkins diet sounds interesting. But must a person starve themselves in a sense on that diet?

And as far as sweetners for food is concerned, have you or anyone ever tried Agave? Delicious! Good for anything a person would normally white sugar for. Actually, it's less expensive than raw sugar, and it's from the agave plant. (umm, but you figured that right?

I made the statement earlier about Agave that was incorrect. My wife had told me aboput Agave and I quoted what she said.

Agave is manufactured from the Agave plant. I have recently read that the manufacturing process breaks the healthful fructans into unhealthy fructose. I cannot verify that right now but I am researching more.

Stevia is a sweetener that many claim is a natural. It is made from the Stevia plant by grinding up the leaves. Is everything that comes from a plant necessarily healthy? Stevia has the same taste, to me, as Aspartame and Saccharin. My wife seems to be the only person I can find that actually does not dislike Stevia. Everyone else says it tastes like artificial sweeteners.

Splenda is made from sugar. They use chloride to break the hydroxy bonds in sugar. Sugar is made up of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen in various ratios. (There are many different kinds of sugar made by changing the ration of carbonoxygenhydrogen (COH). Splenda tastes like sugar and so far I have found no negative reports about Splenda from a source I can verify. The chloride scares some people off but those same people use salt which is Sodium Chloride.

At present my wife and I agree in honey. I prefer Splenda and she prefers Stevia. I have given up drinking tea because of the Stevia she uses and the awful artificial sweetener taste.

Edited April 28, 2015 by Witness1970

[pnutts]

Oh, and did i mention yogurt and soy milk? Lots of it!! And fruits especially bananas for the potassium, oranges for the vitamin C, and berries for the antioxidants.

And just a side note about soy. It's good for menopause for hot flashes as it either eliminates them or lessens them.

Soy is also good for the prostate as in prostate cancer.

Do the research.

Sorry but the research with soy was with Fermented Soy, which the marketers forget.

60 years ago the food industry ignored the 100+ research papers on hazards of hydrogenated oil-transfats.

Heart disease abounds.

Edited April 30, 2015 by pnutts

[pnutts]

Splenda tastes like sugar and so far I have found no negative reports about Splenda from a source I can verify

I had a source but have sooo much to look through to find it.

You will find that a former Sec. of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, when a lobbyist, got it approved, even though the FDA had rejected it before.

It is supposed to be a failed military experiment.