all things star trek

[Julsey]

9 hours ago, computerwiz said:

 

You're too strict!!  Missing out on all kinds of goodness...

You don’t know how many times I’ve tried watching it!!! I can take about 10 minutes and that’s it. I have sat through a few eps of Voyager, though, and all of Enterprise!

[Julsey]

12 hours ago, ImSoFluffy said:

I don't know if I want to see beyond that. The new "Section 31" movie looks a bit iffy

“Iffy” might be an understatement. Think what’s her name eats an eyeball at one point, and isn’t that just what GR would have wanted???

 

Speaking of Gene, I wonder if he’ll show up in the new world… 😉

[Qapla]

I remember when Star Trek first aired on TV (it wasn't referred to as "TOS" back then). Since there were no other programs like Star Trek, it got compared to westerns and current shows that were not SciFi.

 

I also remember when STNG first aired. During the first year, people constantly kept comparing STNG with TOS and pointing out what "just wasn't right" instead of letting it stand on its own. When the comparisons finally started to die down, STNG was able to stand on its own and developed into a good Star Trek franchise.

 

The same thing happened when Voyager first aired only the comparisons were with STNG instead of TOS.

 

It doesn't matter what any subsequent series, movies, stories and/or timelines are written/created - people will always compare them to their "favorite" and, usually, those comparisons will always be negative towards the new.

 

Edited May 1 by Qapla

[Michał]

6 hours ago, Julsey said:

Speaking of Gene, I wonder if he’ll show up in the new world… 😉

Why not? Although he was a womanizer and an atheist it doesn’t mean he can’t change. As far as I know he really dreamt of united human race. His dream will come true so he can very well accept it - even though it comes from God and not from humans. 
 

Btw, despite being an atheist he came up with a godlike character Q. 

Edited May 1 by Michał

[feather]

On 4/23/2025 at 9:33 PM, Julsey said:

I am guessing it was because it would have dropped a very big issue into what was meant to be a mostly lighthearted movie. That said, I didn’t care for inclusion of that scene in STIII. It didn’t make any sense, as Spock would have been far too young for it to occur. In the series, it didn’t strike until he was well into adulthood (36?). 

 

Wonder if the pon farr scene in ST3 was because the Genesis planet was rapidly aging

     and Spock was connected to the planet

  therefore, HE was rapidly aging...

so instead of facing this at 36 it came upon him at 17

 

This is the only way I could make sense that it came upon him so early 

[Qapla]

My impression of the Pon Farr at the young age is that it is like puberty ... a change that is not necessarily followed by "mating/sex" - although it may constitute "bonding" ... more than an engagement but less than a marriage

 

Considering pon farr occurs every seven years, and Spock was aging rapidly, it's possible that Saavik aided Spock through his pon farr more than once ... the first time depicted in the movie may have been just the initial bonding without any mating. Any actual mating occurred when Spok was much older and off camera.

[JudyO]

On 4/24/2025 at 7:56 PM, Julsey said:

Jeremy…no, no, no, no, no, lol.

OH, yes, yes yes! Can't wait for Season 3 in the next few months!

[Julsey]

16 hours ago, Michał said:

Why not? Although he was a womanizer and an atheist it doesn’t mean he can’t change. As far as I know he really dreamt of united human race. His dream will come true so he can very well accept it - even though it comes from God and not from humans. 
 

Btw, despite being an atheist he came up with a godlike character Q. 

I always try to imagine what people could be (or could have been) if their lives had been different. From what I recall, GR was very ill as a child, and then was in WWII. For all we know, he was turned off religion/God by the blessing of the troops (then dropping bombs on people) or whatever he went through as a young person. My Father was a difficult person (understatement of the century), but when he got Alzheimer’s, he lost that part of his personality and became like a little boy again.

 

58 minutes ago, Qapla said:

My impression of the Pon Farr at the young age is that it is like puberty ... a change that is not necessarily followed by "mating/sex" - although it may constitute "bonding" ... more than an engagement but less than a marriage

 

Considering pon farr occurs every seven years, and Spock was aging rapidly, it's possible that Saavik aided Spock through his pon farr more than once ... the first time depicted in the movie may have been just the initial bonding without any mating. Any actual mating occurred when Spok was much older and off camera.

Oh, I hadn’t thought of that. Good point!

[Julsey]

6 hours ago, feather said:

Wonder if the pon farr scene in ST3 was because the Genesis planet was rapidly aging

     and Spock was connected to the planet

  therefore, HE was rapidly aging...

so instead of facing this at 36 it came upon him at 17

 

This is the only way I could make sense that it came upon him so early 

See Qapla’s comment. I had never considered his thought before, but it makes a lot of sense.

Edited Friday at 12:18 AM by Julsey

[Cool.As.Ice]

I don’t mean to go off topic, or to interrupt the flow of the conversation; but can someone explain to me in simple terms what the difference is between Star Trek and Star Wars? 
 

For example, what is the difference in how they are made, or produced? How is the plot line different? 

 

For a long time, I honestly thought that they were one and the same. Maybe I’m ignorant or something; anyway, if you wish, you can also send me a PM, that’s fine. Thnx

Edited Friday at 05:39 AM by Cool.As.Ice
Added a couple questions

[Michał]

2 hours ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

I don’t mean to go off topic, or to interrupt the flow of the conversation; but can someone explain to me in simple terms what the difference is between Star Trek and Star Wars? 
 

For example, what is the difference in how they are made, or produced? How is the plot line different? 

 

For a long time, I honestly thought that they were one and the same. Maybe I’m ignorant or something; anyway, if you wish, you can also send me a PM, that’s fine. Thnx

Star Wars started as movies. Star Trek started as Tv series. 
 

Star Wars is a kind of medieval fantasy in space. You have duels with light saber as knights would do. You have magic called force. It’s set in a distant galaxy with no direct relation to our reality. Its premise is the fight between good and evil. 
 

Star Trek is science fiction (at least it tries 😉). It takes part mostly in the future: 23rd century and later and describes space exploration of human race, contact with alien races and forming a federation that unites them. It premise is space exploration and all the issues we can face when we encounter new inventions, social phenomena, alien technology.

 

Thats a very concise (and incomplete) summary. 

[Witness1970]

11 hours ago, Julsey said:

I always try to imagine what people could be (or could have been) if their lives had been different. From what I recall, GR was very ill as a child, and then was in WWII. For all we know, he was turned off religion/God by the blessing of the troops (then dropping bombs on people) or whatever he went through as a young person. My Father was a difficult person (understatement of the century), but when he got Alzheimer’s, he lost that part of his personality and became like a little boy again.

I can see where someone who wants peace but does not believe in God could have a problem.  He might have desired peace but saw the hypocrisy of religion and that caused him to doubt God's existence.  In the future that person may see the peace that he had longed for brought about, not by humans, but by God's Kingdom.  This could definitely have an effect on some people and would change their attitudes.  On the other hand, others might remain as skeptical as they ever were before.

[Qapla]

In simple terms:

• Star Trek is about the journey and the various people on the journey. It was dubbed "Wagon train to the stars"
• Star Wars is a space drama that could be labeled as a "boy and his dog" (a story term) since it centers around Luke Skywalker and R2D2

 

[Michał]

As a follow-up:

 

[Shawnster]

On 4/29/2025 at 10:53 AM, computerwiz said:

What's wrong with that? 

It was dumb. 

 

But if you enjoyed it, that is great. IDIC. 

[Shawnster]

On 5/2/2025 at 1:37 AM, Cool.As.Ice said:

I don’t mean to go off topic, or to interrupt the flow of the conversation; but can someone explain to me in simple terms what the difference is between Star Trek and Star Wars? 
 

 

 

*Star Wars* is a space fantasy epic focused on mythic storytelling, heroic archetypes, and a battle between good and evil in a distant galaxy, often using mystical elements like the Force. *Star Trek*, by contrast, is a science fiction franchise rooted in exploration, diplomacy, and speculative science, portraying a future where humanity and its allies work together to understand the universe and uphold shared ideals through reason and cooperation.
 

[Qapla]

[Shawnster]

2 hours ago, Qapla said:

That's what chatgtp can do for you 

[feather]

Did anyone read Leonard Nimoy's autobiography "I Am Not Spock"

   and the one to follow since the first one was misunderstood "I Am Spock"  ?

[Qapla]

I haven't read them, but I did hear him talk about them in a video I saw

[dljbsp]

2 hours ago, feather said:

I Am Not Spock

Yes, I actually did read I Am Not Spock—though it’s been a while, so I don’t remember all the details. But I do recall it gave a really personal look into Leonard Nimoy’s life growing up in Boston, his Jewish background, and the different jobs he held before making it in Hollywood. What stood out to me was how he explained the difference between himself and the character of Spock. He respected Spock deeply—even said Spock had values and standards that he himself didn’t always live up to—but he still wanted to protect the character’s consistency and integrity. The title often gets misunderstood like he was rejecting the role, but really, he was just drawing a line between the actor and the role. You could tell he cared a lot about how Spock was portrayed.

Gives you a different perspective on Len.

LLAP