Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[LeolaRootStew]

4 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

It seems to me that it would need to be a bigger issue before that would happen, however, since Jehovah puts in in their hearts, any event could precede or trigger it.  

 

A bigger issue than oil prices collapsing the world economy?

[Tortuga]

5 minutes ago, LeolaRootStew said:

 

A bigger issue than oil prices collapsing the world economy?

Yes

[Shawnster]

1 hour ago, Tortuga said:

however, since Jehovah puts in in their hearts, any event could precede or trigger it.  

 

Would there even need to be an event? Does Jehovah need to wait on an event before putting his one thought into their hearts? 

[Tortuga]

3 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

 

Would there even need to be an event? Does Jehovah need to wait on an event before putting his one thought into their hearts? 

Exactly. I meant to include that in my comment 😁

[Tortuga]

I think its interesting that the League of Nations was established after WW1. The United Nations was established after WW2. It seems that the world leaders are more reactive than proactive, so we could assume that the nations would give their power and authority to the UN after a major world event. However, Jehovah starts his Day and it may come completely unexpected. His Day may not come before or after a major world event and may not be triggered by any economic or religious instability. It happens when Jehovah purposes it to happen.

Edited Friday at 04:35 PM by Tortuga

[Doug]

29 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

I think its interesting that the League of Nations was established after WW1. The United Nations was established after WW2. It seems that the world leaders are more reactive than proactive, so we could assume that the nations would give their power and authority to the UN after a major world event. 

 

This is rational.  WE KNOW  that it's Jehovah.  But THEY DON'T KNOW.  Consequently, for all the nations to make this unprecedented decision, there must be a reason in their minds.  It must seem to them that it's their only option.  But WHY?  Why would it be their only option?  We don't know why, but that will be Jehovah's way of getting them to do it.

It will be their decision (free will exercised) , but they will see no other choice.

 

At least that's what I think  .    .   

[Todd komaniak]

And again this is only my opinion but when they claim that they've achieved peace and security I think that somehow the religions of the world will somehow mess with that peace somehow and it will justify in their own heads to get rid of religion

[Tortuga]

30 minutes ago, Todd komaniak said:

And again this is only my opinion but when they claim that they've achieved peace and security I think that somehow the religions of the world will somehow mess with that peace somehow and it will justify in their own heads to get rid of religion

I think one of these days we will look back at what happened and realize it all made perfect sense...😁

[vern]

Jesus said that a house divided falls so Satan wouldn't get rid of his cherished nurtured lies with religion.

 

The wild beast hates the harlot so won't care when it is attacked.

 

take away many reasons for division: religion: nationality borders with the new greater power of the "image" of the beast; that isn't the individual beast heads.

 

Will the world look like its unified?

 

will AI have some role?  they are spending trillions of dollars on it for some odd reason that to me makes no sense as they already have enough resources for the internet.

 

makes sense to me that the cry can happen after some events. shrug....

[Áine]

3 hours ago, Tortuga said:

I think one of these days we will look back at what happened and realize it all made perfect sense...😁

I also think that we will fairly soon look back and realise that we didn’t know it was that close

[Tortuga]

56 minutes ago, Áine said:

I also think that we will fairly soon look back and realise that we didn’t know it was that close

Yup, 2033, 2000 years after Jesus saved mankind...😁

[Sofia]

18 hours ago, Tortuga said:

Yup, 2033, 2000 years after Jesus saved mankind...😁

Or 2029, 2000 years after Jesus was anointed 😏

🤪

[Michał]

16 hours ago, Sofia said:

Or 2029, 2000 years after Jesus was anointed 😏

🤪

⬆️ better this than 144 years after Establishing Gods kingdom 😅😂🤣😉

[JennyM]

Super El Nino has begun. 

[Áine]

It looks like they have reached their peace deal which surprisingly includes Lebanon, Israel etc 

this is a memorandum with more to come

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-us-reveals-details-of-deal-terms-as-iranian-attack-drones-shot-down-near-strait-of-hormuz-13509565

Edited 19 hours ago by Áine

[Dages]

 

Hohoho  

Edited 12 hours ago by Dages

[JennyM]

7 hours ago, Áine said:

It looks like they have reached their peace deal which surprisingly includes Lebanon, Israel etc 

this is a memorandum with more to come

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-us-reveals-details-of-deal-terms-as-iranian-attack-drones-shot-down-near-strait-of-hormuz-13509565

False peace for sure  

Edited 12 hours ago by Dages

[Dages]

7 minutes ago, JennyM said:

False peace for sure  

Of course it is... but it's nice to see them speak about P&S verbatim

[Áine]

1 hour ago, Dages said:

Of course it is... but it's nice to see them speak about P&S verbatim

Yes! Plus Thessalonians says that wherever it is that they are SAYING peace and security… not shouting or crying out

 

 It could very well be this… BTG etc could happen fairly quickly afterwards and it would be very easy to miss this saying of Peace, we just need to stay very alert and follow the slaves directions.

 

 

[JennyM]

21 minutes ago, Áine said:

Yes! Plus Thessalonians says that wherever it is that they are SAYING peace and security… not shouting or crying out

 

 It could very well be this… BTG etc could happen fairly quickly afterwards and it would be very easy to miss this saying of Peace, we just need to stay very alert and follow the slaves directions.

 

 

Or more work to be done in the ministry. 

[Áine]

We simply don’t know if it will come before our after the destruction of false religion, it really is a wait and see

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2026285?q=peace+and+security&p=par

[JennyM]

4 hours ago, Áine said:

We simply don’t know if it will come before our after the destruction of false religion, it really is a wait and see

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2026285?q=peace+and+security&p=par

Jehovah will be the one putting into their hearts.. 

 

The signal is nations will surrender their power to the UN.. Other than that, lets wait and see.

[Sofia]

11 hours ago, Dages said:

 

Hohoho  

Now let’s see if Ukraine comes next