TikTok Plans Immediate US Shutdown on Sunday

[Sheep]

2 hours ago, Jwanon said:

My personnal view is that every method to spread the good news is a good method

 

Any difficulty a publisher may face during his ministry will be his own challenge to overcome

 

Some other apologists have that view too. But personally I think putting anything on the Internet looks like inviting challenges to come along and pick us off. I wouldn't do it.

[LeolaRootStew]

4 hours ago, Jwanon said:

 

My personnal view is that every method to spread the good news is a good method

 

Any difficulty a publisher may face during his ministry will be his own challenge to overcome

 

5 hours ago, Jwanon said:

 

Paul preached in public open spaces and in front of large crowds, I personally don't see the difference

 

Also the host would kick out the guests that were rude or argumentative

 

The GB is in charge of how we preach and they have repeatedly decried situations like this where the comments section can easily attract apostates.

[Cool.As.Ice]

I don’t think the slave has ever sanctioned using social media for religious debates. If I’m wrong, please show me a publication from our Bible-based literature that I can look up.

 

Otherwise, this is just our opinion/personal preference here.

[Shawnster]

5 hours ago, Jwanon said:

 

Also the host would kick out the guests that were rude or argumentative

 

Unless you are the host, there is no way any of us can know this with 100%confidence. 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Jwanon said:

 

My personnal view is that every method to spread the good news is a good method

 

If this is really a good idea we would see encouragement and proper direction on how to do this. 

 

 

(Isaiah 5:21) 21 Woe to those wise in their own eyes and discreet even in front of their own faces!

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&pub=Rbi8&srctype=wol&bible=23005021&srcid=share

 

8 minutes ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

I don’t think the slave has ever sanctioned using social media for religious debates. 

 

The Slave does not sanction religious debates in any format. 

 

*** w01 5/15 p. 29 ‘By Wisdom Our Days Will Become Many’ ***

In our endeavor to reach honesthearted ones with the Kingdom good news, may we be careful not to get involved in debates and arguments with ridiculers. Christ Jesus instructed his disciples: “When you are entering into the house, greet the household; and if the house is deserving, let the peace you wish it come upon it; but if it is not deserving, let the peace from you return upon you. Wherever anyone does not take you in or listen to your words, on going out of that house or that city shake the dust off your feet.”—Matthew 10:12-14.

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2001367&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=15

[Tortuga]

7 hours ago, Jwanon said:

 

My personnal view is that every method to spread the good news is a good method

 

Any difficulty a publisher may face during his ministry will be his own challenge to overcome

That sounds good but ask your local elders and see if they agree with you. 

Jehovah's organization teaches us what to do and how to do it. If we want to go beyond what Jehovah's organization has arranged and we don't discuss it with the shepherds within the organization first, then we may be developing a haughty and presumptuous attitude. 

[Dages]

7 hours ago, Jwanon said:

My personnal view is that every method to spread the good news is a good method

Every method that is openly encouraged (for which we have literature, training) by the Slave is a good method.

Everything else is... let's be charitable... a conscience matter at best.

[Tortuga]

1 hour ago, Dages said:

Everything else is... let's be charitable... a conscience matter at best.

Unfortunately, some people need help with their conscience, wisdom and discernment. I remember a story of a brother that felt the poor women in a strip club needed to hear the good news despite everyone telling him it was a bad idea to go into the club. I don't think the situation ended well..

[Brandon]

1 hour ago, Tortuga said:

a brother that felt the poor women in a strip club needed to hear the good news

Please tell me this is a joke 😬

[Tortuga]

57 minutes ago, Brandon said:

Please tell me this is a joke 😬

I'm sure he felt it was a conscience matter...

[Jwanon]

7 hours ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

I don’t think the slave has ever sanctioned using social media for religious debates

 

I agree, debates are a waste of time

[Tsheppar]

7 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

The GB is in charge of how we preach and they have repeatedly decried situations like this where the comments section can easily attract apostates.

 

4 hours ago, Tortuga said:

That sounds good but ask your local elders and see if they agree with you. 

Just a little reality check.

 

Im pretty sure the GB decries site's like JW talk. 

 

And my local elders would have a fit if I told them I was on a site called Jwtalk.

 

 My conscience standing before Jehovah allows it. 

 

The vast majority of our brothers find sites like this offensive. So lets not get too judgy. 

 

Im just sayin. Im just sayin.

 Its a fine line. 

[Jwanon]

4 hours ago, Tortuga said:

That sounds good but ask your local elders and see if they agree with you.

 

They already know, they don't disagree

 

7 hours ago, Shawnster said:

Unless you are the host, there is no way any of us can know this with 100%confidence. 

 

What do you mean? I watched the live

 

7 hours ago, Shawnster said:

The Slave does not sanction religious debates in any format. 

 

I never mentioned debates

[Shawnster]

6 hours ago, Jwanon said:

What do you mean? I watched the live

Unless we are the host, we have no way to know how the host will always act in preventing trouble. Even if we are the host, we cannot guarantee we will always be 100% vigilant in preventing trouble. 

 

Since you watched the live, I take it from the way you worded this that it might have been a one time attempt or was only accessible for a limited time. Perhaps they will do this again. Perhaps it will become a regularly scheduled event. Perhaps others will follow their example and set up their own tik toks. With each new event, the opportunity for trouble increases. With each event, the opportunity for growing lax in preventing troubles increases. With each new content creator following this format, the possibility for less diligent administrators increases. In the end, an apostate copycat is almost a certainty. 

 

 

[Shawnster]

6 hours ago, Jwanon said:

 

I never mentioned debates

And I did not quote you when I replied about debates. 

 

On the other hand, it's the internet. The format is open to all. Debate is all but assured. 

[trottigy]

Downloading our publications from anywhere but jw.org is potentially dangerous. Jehovah has entrusted the responsibility of providing spiritual food to “the faithful and discreet slave” alone. (Matt. 24:45) That “slave” uses only its official websites to publish spiritual food—www.jw.org, tv.jw.org, and wol.jw.org. And we have only three official apps for mobile devices—JW Language^®, JW Library^®, and JW Library Sign Language^®. We can trust these products to be free of advertisements or contamination by Satan’s world. If the spiritual food passes through other channels, there is no guarantee that it has not been altered or contaminated.—Ps. 18:26; 19:8.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2018364#h=1:0-23:0

 

Those types of sites usually just invite debates. That is not how we handle our ministry. Even at the carts - we are not there to encourage debates. Instead we are there to direct them to jw.org or to have a free home bible study AND if someone is there and just wants to argue or debate we LEAVE. Online invites for debates are usually traps set up by apostates hoping to do as the article says "sow doubts." I'd avoid them and and encourage others to do the same. 

[Tortuga]

On 4/17/2025 at 4:32 AM, Jwanon said:

I saw yesterday there's a live tiktok channel where brothers and sisters invite someone to discuss and ask questions about our faith

Have you joined it?

[Jwanon]

2 hours ago, Tortuga said:

Have you joined it?

 

No I just watched