Gunman arrested over conspiracy theory -DC

[trottigy]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-dc-pizzeria-gunman-conspiracy-theory-20161204-story.html

 

A North Carolina man was arrested Sunday after he walked into a popular pizza restaurant in northwest Washington, D.C., carrying an assault rifle and fired one or more shots, D.C. police said.

The man told police he had come to the restaurant to investigate "PizzaGate," a false conspiracy theory related to Hillary Clinton that spread online during her presidential campaign.

Why do people believe these crazy conspiracy theories. They only look crazy themselves.  

 

 

[Tortuga]

1 minute ago, trottigy said:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-dc-pizzeria-gunman-conspiracy-theory-20161204-story.html

 

A North Carolina man was arrested Sunday after he walked into a popular pizza restaurant in northwest Washington, D.C., carrying an assault rifle and fired one or more shots, D.C. police said.

The man told police he had come to the restaurant to investigate "PizzaGate," a false conspiracy theory related to Hillary Clinton that spread online during her presidential campaign.

Why do people believe these crazy conspiracy theories. They only look crazy themselves.  

 

 

I'd like to get to the bottom of that theory!

Pass the cheese please....

[trottigy]

The theory was the Clintons were running a child prostitution ring out of the Pizzeria.

 

Who believes this stuff?

 

From the story:

The restaurant's owner and employees were threatened on social media in the days before the election after fake news stories circulated claiming that then-Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and her campaign chief were running a child sex ring from the restaurant's back rooms.

Even Michael Flynn, a retired general who President-elect Donald Trump has tapped to advise him on national security, shared the stories. None of them were true.

Edited December 5, 2016 by trottigy

[Tortuga]

1 minute ago, trottigy said:

The theory was the Clintons were running a child prostitution ring out of the Pizzeria.

 

Who believes this stuff?

Amazing. Uh, are you going to eat that last slice?

[carlos]

Once again a great story ruined by common sense!

[ChocoBro]

You can say what you want about this scandal but one thing is for sure, people at the top have a tendency to go bizarre with their morals. Recently a pedophile ring was busted in Norway and there were politicians and attorneys involved. Think of the Marc Dutroux scandal and the allegations of the Franklin cover-up. In Germany, we had the Edathy cover up where the police requested political immunity be removed for child pornography investigations, the suspect in parliament was tipped off and whoops! lost his work laptop. Some of the (twitter?) posts made by comet before this whole thing became viral are so bizarre it's creepy, and the fact that there is such an intense connection between these pizzerias and politics is also kind of awkward, don't you think? Definitely something fishy went on there. Some other alternative media outlets have voiced the opinion that the pizzerias are a drug front. A lot of politicians are also heavily into drugs.

 

 

[Mykyl]

Shows how spreading conspiracies should not be part of a Christians speech. Better to be safe than potentially a slanderer.

 

This article shows where this story originated. 

The saga of 'Pizzagate': The fake story that shows how conspiracy theories spread

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-38156985

[trottigy]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/06/us/politics/michael-flynn-son-trump.html

 

It looks like one of the people spreading this conspiracy just got fired for it. Even the world sees spreading these "fake news" items should be disciplined - interesting.

 

It just reaffirms what the slave has told us,

 

"That is why it is important to be cautious about repeating or forwarding unverifiedaccounts. We surely would not want to repeat “godless myths,” or “false stories which violate what is holy.” (1 Timothy 4:7; New International Version) Since we also have an obligation to speak truthfully to one another, we are acting wisely by avoiding anything that would cause us even unwittingly to spread untruths.—Ephesians 4:25."

2002 Sept 15 Watchtower

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002684?q=unverified+stories&p=par

 

We need to speak the truth not pass on "conspiracies" as if they are true.

[ChocoBro]

9 hours ago, trottigy said:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/06/us/politics/michael-flynn-son-trump.html

 

It looks like one of the people spreading this conspiracy just got fired for it. Even the world sees spreading these "fake news" items should be disciplined - interesting.

 

It just reaffirms what the slave has told us,

 

"That is why it is important to be cautious about repeating or forwarding unverifiedaccounts. We surely would not want to repeat “godless myths,” or “false stories which violate what is holy.” (1 Timothy 4:7; New International Version) Since we also have an obligation to speak truthfully to one another, we are acting wisely by avoiding anything that would cause us even unwittingly to spread untruths.—Ephesians 4:25."

2002 Sept 15 Watchtower

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002684?q=unverified+stories&p=par

 

We need to speak the truth not pass on "conspiracies" as if they are true.

 

Having said that, we should not repeat stuff that professional media outlets put out there either. They have also been caught out lying or exaggerating time and again - they also have an agenda.

[Shawnster]

20 minutes ago, ChocoBro said:

 

Having said that, we should not repeat stuff that professional media outlets put out there either. They have also been caught out lying or exaggerating time and again - they also have an agenda.

It's one thing to report factual news - Wild Fires in Southeastern USA, for example, and quite another to repeat false reports.

 

It should be easy to spot the differences and respond accordingly.

 

 

[ChocoBro]

29 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

It's one thing to report factual news - Wild Fires in Southeastern USA, for example, and quite another to repeat false reports.

 

It should be easy to spot the differences and respond accordingly.

 

 

Depends on what you consider "factual". A lot of news outlets are claiming the fires in Israel are a form of "Intifadah". Could be true, could be propaganda. The reports that there are fires in Israel are likely true, of course. Just as an example

[trottigy]

3 hours ago, ChocoBro said:

Depends on what you consider "factual". A lot of news outlets are claiming the fires in Israel are a form of "Intifadah". Could be true, could be propaganda. The reports that there are fires in Israel are likely true, of course. Just as an example

This is where it becomes easy to tell the difference. When we tell of the fires - that's factual "there are fires". When we say unproven reasons WHY or impute motivates into others - then we have gone beyond facts and into get into opinions.

 

As an example, the 2 towers came down on 911. Fact. Trying to say "this one did it for this reasons", etc gets into opinion.

[ChocoBro]

6 hours ago, trottigy said:

etc gets into opinion.

...or, sometimes referred to as "fake news" ;)

[trottigy]

News used to be more about reporting facts. They would get into trouble if they went off into opinion - unless it was clearly stated "this is opinion" or during a segment that was for opinions.

 

Now, too much of news is - opinions and less facts.

[Cushi]

This guy must feel like an idiot after finding out that the conspiracy wasn't even true... 

[ChocoBro]

1 hour ago, Brother Jack said:

This guy must feel like an idiot after finding out that the conspiracy wasn't even true... 

What makes you think he found anything out at all except for the fact they have a bunch of empty rooms in the basement? 

[Cushi]

5 minutes ago, ChocoBro said:

What makes you think he found anything out at all except for the fact they have a bunch of empty rooms in the basement? 

Since the media in the US has been saying that the conspiracy theory wasn't even true, I'm sure that since he's been arrested he's heard it somehow. 

[ChocoBro]

13 minutes ago, Brother Jack said:

Since the media in the US has been saying that the conspiracy theory wasn't even true, I'm sure that since he's been arrested he's heard it somehow. 

And you know you can believe the "media in the US" that "the conspiracy theory wasn't even true"? And even if some cop told him "Dude, you know it's not true right?" What makes you think he believed that? Just saying.

[carlos]

Nah, a conspiracy believer will never admit his conspiracy was false. Rather he will blame a bigger conspiracy to hide the previous one.

[rocket]

Usually conspiracy theorist and those who support it have an agenda of their own.  Take for instance those that believe the 'Sandy Hook conspiracy,' that it didn't really happen.  It is a conspiracy the gun lobbyist/supporters dreamed up to turn peoples attention away from gun control.  They are just as sick in the head as the person that killed those poor children.  I think the gun lobbyist/supporters are also behind the OP's conspiracy but I could be wrong.

[Shawnster]

3 minutes ago, rocket said:

 I think the gun lobbyist/supporters are also behind the OP's conspiracy but I could be wrong.

 

Only if they could have known how it would play out.  I don't think anyone foresaw that "the Clintons are molesting children in this pizzeria's basement" would end in "gunman storms pizzeria to take matters into his own hands."

 

Law of unintended consequences.

[Cushi]

16 hours ago, ChocoBro said:

And you know you can believe the "media in the US" that "the conspiracy theory wasn't even true"? And even if some cop told him "Dude, you know it's not true right?" What makes you think he believed that? Just saying.

I was thinking the same thing. I started to say in my post the he's probably so deluded that he won't believe it if anyone tells him it wasn't true.