Finnish study finds ‘practically no’ evidence for man-made climate change

[New World Explorer]

A new study conducted by a Finnish research team has found little evidence to support the idea of man-made climate change. The results of the study were soon corroborated by researchers in Japan.

Given the evidence presented in the study, the Finnish team rounded out the paper by concluding “we have practically no anthropogenic climate change,” adding that “the low clouds control mainly the global temperature.”

https://www.rt.com/news/464051-finnish-study-no-evidence-warming/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS

 

I'll stick with this

THE EARTH IS BEING RUINED The Bible states that God will “bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” (Revelation 11:18) In what ways would people be ruining the earth? The time period when Noah lived was described in a similar way: “The earth had become ruined in the sight of the true God, and the earth was filled with violence. Yes, God looked upon the earth, and it was ruined.” So God said of that corrupt society: “I am bringing them to ruin.” (Genesis 6:11-13) Have you noticed the mounting evidence that the earth is becoming filled with violence? Additionally, humans have arrived at a unique point in history: They have the potential literally to ruin the earth by wiping out all human life on it. They have the weaponry in their hands. And the earth is being ruined in another way. The systems that support life on earth—the air we breathe, the animal and plant ecosystems, the oceans—are steadily being degraded because of human mismanagement. W15 5/1

 

“Human-made greenhouse gases have brought the Earth’s climate close to critical tipping points, with potentially dangerous consequences for the planet.”—NASA, Goddard Institute for Space Studies.

W 08 8/1

Edited July 12, 2019 by New World Explorer

[Bek]

It seems strange that the "research" has not been reported by major media outlets. 

 

Here is some food for thought:

Russia’s RT and Sputnik barred from UK conference on media freedom

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The Foreign Office has banned Russia’s RT and Sputnik news organisations from attending a global conference on media freedom in London because of their “active role in spreading disinformation”

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/09/russia-rt-sputnik-barred-conference-media-freedom

 

Putin says climate change is not man-made and we should adapt to it, not try to stop it

https://amp.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/2083650/trump-vladimir-putin-says-climate-change-not-man-made

 

Russia relies mostly on extraction and export of fossil fuel for economic growth. So no surprises there. 

 

Climate change is only a part of environmental problems caused by humans. There are numerous other issues as seen on the list:

 

https://www.appropedia.org/List_of_environmental_issues

 

So even if we assume that the "research" is true, we can take climate change out of the equation and see that humans are still ruining the earth. 

 

[BenJepthah]

On 7/13/2019 at 1:32 AM, Hun said:

assume that the "research" is true, we can take climate change out of the equation and see that humans are still ruining the earth. 

This last part, I find, is the most important point of all.  We need not rely on proof of any one thing to demonstrate that humanity is ruining the earth. Hinting so much on Human greenhouse gas is like hanging our understanding of the Scripture upon a lot of hot air.

[Shawnster]

 

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Putin says... we should adapt to it, not try to stop it

From a worldly standpoint, this option should be considered. If humans cannot stop the climate change, then humans should learn to adapt to the changes.  Actually, from a practical, physical standpoint, both choices should be explored. Try to stop it but be prepared to adapt. 

 

How fortunate we are to know the truth.  Jehovah will soon eliminate all the environmental harm man has caused. There will be no damage that Jehovah cannot reverse. 

[Bek]

I have found a report from last month on an agreement the Republicans and Democrats reached on the anthropogenic causes of the  global warming. However, a few days ago, another bipartisan panel, in the words of a Republican senator, has declared that humans are not to blame for climate change.  So it is really confusing. We should also remember that Trump is Putin's ideological buddy.

 

The strange thing is that major media organisations are still silent on this.  

 

New Bipartisan Agreement on Climate Change Only Goes So Far

Republicans and Democrats agree that the world is warming, and it’s our fault. 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-11/new-bipartisan-agreement-on-climate-change-only-goes-so-far

 

CONGRESSMAN BROOKS: BIPARTISAN PANEL OF SCIENTISTS CONFIRMS HUMANS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR PAST 20,000 YEARS OF GLOBAL WARMING

https://brooks.house.gov/media-center/news-releases/congressman-brooks-bipartisan-panel-scientists-confirms-humans-are-not

 

 

 

[Qapla]

5 hours ago, Shawnster said:

How fortunate we are to know the truth.  Jehovah will soon eliminate all the environmental harm man has caused. There will be no damage that Jehovah cannot reverse.

 

I will be interesting to see what changes He reverses and which ones He does NOT reverse. Just because we may think a "change" is wrong, it may not be.

 

We may be surprised when we look around at who is there, who is NOT there, what technology will be discontinued and what technology will still be in use ... the same with the buildings, transportation, food and many more things.

[Shawnster]

2 hours ago, Qapla said:

 

I will be interesting to see what changes He reverses and which ones He does NOT reverse. Just because we may think a "change" is wrong, it may not be.

 

 

Some of humans "ruining" the earth is simply encroaching where they should not.  New Orleans is built below sea level. Miami is built on a swamp. Maybe it was only a matter of time before nature reclaimed those areas. 

 

One report i saw mentioned how tall skyscrapers in New Orleans and other areas act as barriers that slow these hurricanes and storms. When these storms are slowed, they swirl and get worse since the energy is being prohibited from releasing. 

[Bek]

Here is what I have found on the "research" paper. So it seems my suspicions were right. 

 

Climate Deniers Are Spreading a Totally Unscientific "Paper" With No Basis in Reality 

 

https://www.sciencealert.com/climate-deniers-are-spreading-a-totally-unscientific-paper-that-has-no-basis-in-reality

[BenJepthah]

8 hours ago, Hun said:

Here is what I have found on the "research" paper. So it seems my suspicions were right. 

 

Climate Deniers Are Spreading a Totally Unscientific "Paper" With No Basis in Reality 

 

https://www.sciencealert.com/climate-deniers-are-spreading-a-totally-unscientific-paper-that-has-no-basis-in-reality

I read the actual paper and found that it established a “ correlation “ but not a True Causality. And one I already knew.  Greater cloud cover ( water vapor) has an insulating effect and DOES hold heat nearer to the surface .   Yet this does not establish causality. If , in fact the ground level temperatures are higher on average then the water cycle accelerated and results in increased water vapor, cloud cover, and precipitation. Which then creates a feedback loop and preserves that warmer condition ( for a time).  

    With human activity removed from the equation this feedback loop occurs naturally and results in periods of glaciation and interglacial periods ( warming and cooling). It is NOT human dependent.BUT

     Human contributions, however small by percentage, have the effect ( perhaps ) of CAUSing cloud cover artificially. This has been demonstrated by temperature measurements in Urban vs Rural areas under similar or the same conditions. Water vapor is contributed to the atmosphere over cities via air traffic to a significant degree that we can see from the ground. The more air travel: the greater the greenhouse effect over urban areas with resulting higher and lower temperatures than the surrounding regions. ( it works each end of the spectrum). 

    Co2 contributions ( again quite small) still have a non zero influence. And drive greening and reforestation when married with increased precipitation. Increased reforestation means an increase in the speed of the water cycle and thus increased cloud cover and increased lower atmospheric average temperatures . 

     So humans do have an effect but cloud cove r is not causal just correlated. And I’m not convinced that humans causing a preexisting natural cycle can be rightly called “ ruining the earth “ but it will make a lot of people have to rethink where and how they live as they adapt to the changes somewhat faster than they would otherwise. 

Edited July 16, 2019 by BenJepthah

[Bek]

That is interesting, Br. David. It does make sense, but I think the research paper is being used misleadingly by right-wing politicians and climate deniers to promote their own radical views. The climate change has become a huge political issue these days. So let's wait and see what well-established international organisations and especially the UN's IPCC have to say.