Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[cme]

  On 4/9/2025 at 11:08 AM, Dages said:

https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/donald-trump-tariff-live-updates-china-india-us-asian-market-global-markets/3802671/

84%?

Daniel 11 at full volume

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How so David?  Daniel 11 and what vs.  most of it is fulfilled already at least up till 11:45.

[Michał]

  On 4/9/2025 at 11:25 AM, cme said:

How so David?  Daniel 11 and what vs.  most of it is fulfilled already at least up till 11:45.

84% was about tariffs. Such high number makes Daniel 11 fully fulfilled.


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[BlaqueCalalilly]

  On 4/9/2025 at 6:33 AM, Miss Bea said:

It just the two of us. We used to plant corn, tomatoes, (several varieties, one of our favorites, heirloom tomatoes) cucumbers, regular and round ones, peppers, jalapeños, (we used them when we can smoked salmon, along with garlic) green beans, potatoes, and, yes, kale. Onions.
We ended up with too much, and was basically having a big garden, mainly to share. Lots of work, and yes fun.

I’m in my eighties, and my husband a few years behind me. In reality, it got to be too much for just two of us. 
We narrowed it down to corn and tomatoes. We still share, mainly the tomatoes. 
This year, I’ve ordered Amish seeds for the corn. Tomatoes. We just can’t help ourselves. We’ve went from 10 or 12 plants, to about six. 
I want to do more this year, because, well because…

i want bush green beans, tomatoes, corn, cucumbers. 
We have raspberries that I have trimmed and fed, and they look beautiful.

 We also have two apple trees. Fuji apples.

Used to have wonderful cherries, until the cherry maggots came visiting. We buy our cherries now. 
Plus, you don’t want to get me started on flowers. We really enjoy them, too. 
Jehovah has been kind to us. 
We live rural, no neighbors. Wildlife can be a problem. (A deer stuck his nose in through our yard fence, and, ungraciously helped his or her self to one of my most favorite Asiatic Lilies). It has been two years, and it will bloom this year. 
Oh, I forgot our hymalian blackberries. All over the place. Invasive. But we mostly keep them at bay. I have to correct my attitude about them, and make my husband a pie out of the things…

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Sounds almost like paradise already....☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️

[BlaqueCalalilly]

  On 4/8/2025 at 2:53 PM, Shawnster said:

I don't care. I see and hear too many Christians who claim they are neutral make commentary that they are influenced by only one side of the media spin. 

 

Are times tough? Yes. The Bible said these are critical times. Are the times easier or harder depending on who is in office? Maybe. Depends on who you are and where you live. Every administration is harder on someone. That's what makes neutrality hard. 

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Yep....This is why I truly appreciate the mute button on the remote.🤔

[Shawnster]

  On 4/9/2025 at 12:38 PM, Michał said:

Such high number makes Daniel 11 fully fulfilled.

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Is this really our place to say? 

 

Especially when these 2 verses are in chapter 11?

 

(Daniel 11:44) 44 “But reports out of the east and out of the north will disturb him, and he will go out in a great rage to annihilate and to devote many to destruction. 45 And he will plant his royal tents between the grand sea and the holy mountain of Decoration; and he will come all the way to his end, and there will be no helper for him.

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&pub=nwtsty&srctype=wol&bible=27011045&srcid=share

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[Michał]

  On 4/9/2025 at 2:06 PM, Shawnster said:

Is this really our place to say? 
 
Especially when these 2 verses are in chapter 11?
 
(Daniel 11:44) 44 “But reports out of the east and out of the north will disturb him, and he will go out in a great rage to annihilate and to devote many to destruction. 45 And he will plant his royal tents between the grand sea and the holy mountain of Decoration; and he will come all the way to his end, and there will be no helper for him.
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&pub=nwtsty&srctype=wol&bible=27011045&srcid=share

It wasn’t that I intended to say. I meant - like Dages I think- that tariff fights show fulfillment of Daniel 11’s struggle between Kots and Kotn in a full scope.

Sorry for the confusion.


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[Dages]

I would not say it's "fulfilled", it's more about "looks DIRECTLY related to".
And it's more about the money so I surmise we are more in Daniel 11:43 territory  

Edited Wednesday at 03:29 PM by Dages

[cme]

Hmmm. there is a video that summarizes the Daniel prophecy in Chapter 11.  Its all been fulfilled.    We are waiting for Chapter 12 of Daniel to be fulfilled.  "Michael will stand up......"  although he has been standing.

 

Will get back to you on that.  Will look at it again.

[Cool.As.Ice]

He is waiting on God’s command to “go subduing in the midst of your enemies” (Psalm 110:2; Compare Revelation 19:15.)

[cme]

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/VODBibleAccounts/pub-jwb-080_10_VIDEO

 

 

This is the video I was referring to.

[Shawnster]

  On 4/9/2025 at 3:29 PM, Dages said:

I would not say it's "fulfilled", it's more about "looks DIRECTLY related to".
And it's more about the money so I surmise we are more in Daniel 11:43 territory  

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Do people view Daniel 11 as a timeline? As if it's a chronological list? 

 

Or is Daniel 11 Like 2 Timothy 3 where the description is more like a list of ingredients or experiences as a whole? 

[cme]

  On 4/9/2025 at 3:29 PM, Dages said:

I would not say it's "fulfilled", it's more about "looks DIRECTLY related to".
And it's more about the money so I surmise we are more in Daniel 11:43 territory  

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Ok.  Sometimes I look at things black or white, no gray area.  But, ok.  See your point.

Edited Wednesday at 05:50 PM by cme
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[cme]

  On 4/9/2025 at 5:46 PM, Shawnster said:

Do people view Daniel 11 as a timeline? As if it's a chronological list? 

 

Or is Daniel 11 Like 2 Timothy 3 where the description is more like a list of ingredients or experiences as a whole? 

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I would say the latter, ingredients or experience as a whole.

[Ysaias]

  On 4/9/2025 at 5:37 PM, cme said:

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/VODBibleAccounts/pub-jwb-080_10_VIDEO

 

 

This is the video I was referring to.

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I LOVE that video. Sadly, it jumps from Da 11:41, part A, to Da 12:1.

 

Thou, very soon we'll get more insight on the fulfillment of Da 11:41 B to 45, while we keep watching LIVE. 

[vern]

Hard not to get frustrated when theres been more then a few adjustments.

 

I still keep thinking Revelation quote about the things that shortly take place might have more meaning then we think.

[JennyM]

Our branch visit said that it doesnt matter when the end comes. what matters is what kind of person am I? 

 

Trump pauses tariffs in 90 days. 

 

 

We are living in the most critical time, polycrisis. 

[Sofia]

  On 4/9/2025 at 5:46 PM, Shawnster said:

Do people view Daniel 11 as a timeline? As if it's a chronological list? 

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Yep

[Dages]

  On 4/10/2025 at 6:13 AM, JennyM said:

Our branch visit said that it doesnt matter when the end comes. what matters is what kind of person am I? 

 

Trump pauses tariffs in 90 days. 

 

 

We are living in the most critical time, polycrisis. 

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pause tariff but for China  

[ChrisC]

  On 4/10/2025 at 7:25 AM, Dages said:

pause tariff but for China  

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This made me laugh:

 

[Tortuga]

  On 4/10/2025 at 10:06 AM, ChrisC said:

 

This made me laugh:

 

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#1 for the money

#2 for the show

#3 to get ready

#4 to go!

[chuck83]

  On 4/10/2025 at 10:06 AM, ChrisC said:

 

This made me laugh:

 

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I don't know that's a divinely complete document and it's like handwriting on the wall- USETHISONE, so we can usher in the GT.  😂

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[johnnyjw01]

  On 4/9/2025 at 9:32 PM, vern said:

Hard not to get frustrated when theres been more then a few adjustments.

 

I still keep thinking Revelation quote about the things that shortly take place might have more meaning then we think.

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Which quote?

[LeolaRootStew]

We desperately need a book on end-times prophecies.

[Tortuga]

  On 4/10/2025 at 4:41 PM, LeolaRootStew said:

We desperately need a book on end-times prophecies.

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I have been hoping for that for a long time. A book that collected and correlated all of the prophecies about the Last Days that haven't been fulfilled yet, I even had some titles I would like to see. 

[LeolaRootStew]

  On 4/10/2025 at 4:49 PM, Tortuga said:

I have been hoping for that for a long time. A book that collected and correlated all of the prophecies about the Last Days that haven't been fulfilled yet, I even had some titles I would like to see. 

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I would even settle for a completely digital book that can be updated easily. I want to be able to click on any verse and get our current understanding; even the Research Guide doesn't always help.