Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Doug]

Ukraine pulled off an extraordinary covert assault deep inside Russia. 

The attack took out 41 strategic bombers at four different airfields.

Explosions also took out bridges and cut off railroads.

This was apparently in the planning for over a year.

 

How will Putin respond?    

Edited Sunday at 03:20 PM by Doug
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[trottigy]

2 hours ago, Doug said:

Ukraine pulled off an extraordinary covert assault deep inside Russia. 

The attack took out 41 strategic bombers at four different airfields.

Explosions also took out bridges and cut off railroads.

This was apparently in the planning for over a year.

 

How will Putin respond?    

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cgrg7kelk45t

 

Just so there is a link to a news article

 

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Sources say the SBU's first smuggled FPV drones into Russia, followed later by mobile wooden cabins.

 

Once on Russian territory, the drones were hidden under the roofs of these cabins, which had been placed on to trucks. At the time of the attack, the roofs were remotely opened, allowing the drones to take off and hit the nearby airbases.

 

Video has emerged showing drones emerging from the roof of one of the vehicles involved. Ukraine estimates the damage caused by the attacks at over $2bn (£1.5bn).

 

The targets hit included TU-95s (the large strategic bomber known as “Bear”), TU-22M3s (supersonic long-range bomber) and A-50 (early warning and control aircraft).

 

[Dustparticle]

Multiple news mentions this attack. https://www.axios.com/2025/06/01/ukraine-drone-strikes-russia

[johnnyjw01]

Things could escalate quickly… 

[Cool.As.Ice]

1 hour ago, johnnyjw01 said:

Things could escalate quickly… 

Violence begets violence

[Old]

2 hours ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

Violence begets violence

One would think that a war was going on.

[Desert Dan]

On 5/31/2025 at 2:55 PM, Áine said:

I’m 65 and extremely active I can assure you that I have a lot more years to live Lol 

 

60’s is the new 40’s I enjoy my life far more now than I ever have before

 

That is good my sister, I am not too far behind you and myself and others are happy that your life is enjoyable at this time and better than ever.   However, it must be understood (and with a bit more sensitivity please) that not everyone is enjoying life so much right now, no matter what the age.  For some, being in their 40's is no simple task and they may feel like they are in their 60's.   It all depends how we grew up, what we have had to endure in life and also current challenges or the stress and anticipation of an upcoming trial.   Not sure if it translates, but it is not "rosy" for all brothers and sisters.  The more stories I hear from brothers (including elder's personal struggles), things are tough and almost unbearable at times for many.   We can tell people to "hang in there and rely on Jehovah" but life still has many challenges, some suddenly unexpected too.  Of course, worshipping Jehovah brings up happiness with a hope for a better future.

 

I doubt anyone can "assure" that they have a lot more years to live.   If so, please "spill the beans" and let me know, I'm listening.

Edited Monday at 04:19 AM by Desert Dan

[cme]

The culprit behind all this chaos is Satan.  He has his players on the stage scene but, soon they will all be taken down.  The Great Tribulation is fast approaching as we see world events unwind and governments hanging on by threads.

 

They have no clue who is driving this madness.  War or no war.  Who will do what?  Do we care?  No.  Jehovah has all things under control.

[Tortuga]

1 hour ago, cme said:

The culprit behind all this chaos is Satan.  He has his players on the stage scene but, soon they will all be taken down.  The Great Tribulation is fast approaching as we see world events unwind and governments hanging on by threads.

 

They have no clue who is driving this madness.  War or no war.  Who will do what?  Do we care?  No.  Jehovah has all things under control.

If you have ever had one of your favorite books made into a movie, you know how I feel.

The movie may be a little different than the story in the book and adds a few details and a little excitement, but you have already read the book so you know how the movie ends. That's how I feel about world events. They are details in the movie of the world but I already read the book, I know what happens next and how the movie will end. 

[vern]

I.m 55 and i feel 75 or.older...😑

[Áine]

I’m sure that this is significant

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-peace-talks-russia-putin-trump-zelenskyy-istanbul-latest-live-12541713

[Dustparticle]

1 hour ago, Áine said:

I’m sure that this is significant

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-peace-talks-russia-putin-trump-zelenskyy-istanbul-latest-live-12541713

 

Really? Isaiah 48:22.

[Áine]

4 hours ago, Dustparticle said:

 

Really? Isaiah 48:22.

Yes Really !!!! I’m aware of that scripture… no need for the reminder, I also know that we are keeping on the watch and at some point in the future the nations will be saying peace and security when in fact there is not…

 

All of these world events, peace talks etc are relevant in order to build the bigger picture… we keep watching and waiting instead of burying our heads in the sand

[New World Explorer]

5 hours ago, Dustparticle said:

 

Really? Isaiah 48:22.

Is it possible that this will be realized in the near future? Possible? (I am open to that possibility or we might go straight to Rev 17:17... but at this stage ..we simply don't know) 

 

In the near future, God’s opposers will in some sense declare: “Peace and security!” (1 Thess. 5:3) Demon-inspired propaganda will fill the earth, misleading most. (Rev. 16:13, 14) What about us? We will not be fooled if we “make sure of [or, “test”] all things.” (Read 1 Thessalonians 5:21; see study notes.) W23 June

Edited Monday at 10:12 PM by New World Explorer

[Dustparticle]

54 minutes ago, Áine said:

 no need for the reminder, I also know that we are keeping on the watch and at some point in the future the nations will be saying peace and security when in fact there is not…

 

All of these world events, peace talks etc are relevant in order to build the bigger picture… we keep watching and waiting instead of burying our heads in the sand

 Here is my point, for many years I have seen many peace agreements on the news and many friends have jump the ball on this saying P&S!!, P&S!! and this is not the event foretold in the Bible.
 

I’m not saying it not wrong to keep on the watch of world events, yet our heads can be in the sand when we jump ahead on certain events that is not in the Bible and that is why we need clarifications at times to readjustment on certain scriptures.

Edited Monday at 10:27 PM by Dustparticle

[Dustparticle]

7 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

In the near future, God’s opposers will in some sense declare: “Peace and security!” (1 Thess. 5:3) Demon-inspired propaganda will fill the earth, misleading most. (Rev. 16:13, 14) What about us? We will not be fooled if we “make sure of [or, “test”] all things.”

Many friends have been fooled of certain events in the Bible  that has not happen yet, and left. The events of the scriptures that you have mentioned has not happen yet. Many times when  friends jump on a scripture that pertains the las day and saying it has been fulfilled and the end is here, yet it has not can lead to disappointment. 

[Shawnster]

At some point the Ukraine war will end. 

[Tortuga]

4 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

At some point the Ukraine war will end. 

At some point all wars will end. 

[New World Explorer]

55 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

Many friends have been fooled of certain events in the Bible  that has not happen yet, and left. The events of the scriptures that you have mentioned has not happen yet. Many times when  friends jump on a scripture that pertains the las day and saying it has been fulfilled and the end is here, yet it has not can lead to disappointment. 

Don’t focus what I said … but what do you think about the article from the Watchtower? 

26 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

At some point all wars will end. 

At some point all comments about end of all wars will end … 

[New World Explorer]

58 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

Many friends have been fooled of certain events in the Bible  that has not happen yet, and left.

Did they serve with a date in time or because they love Jehovah? Looks like their relationship with our Heavenly Father wasn’t strong enough. 

[Dustparticle]

1 minute ago, New World Explorer said:

Did they serve with a date in time or because they love Jehovah? Looks like their relationship with our Heavenly Father wasn’t strong enough. 

 

 That has not always been the case. In the past, we taught about a closer end and it did not happen. Stick to clarifications about the time we’re are living in.

[New World Explorer]

1 minute ago, Dustparticle said:

 

 That has not always been the case. In the past, we taught about a closer end and it did not happen. Stick to clarifications about the time we’re are living in.

I don't know what you mean about "sticking to clarifications" 

[Dustparticle]

2 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

I don't know what you mean about "sticking to clarifications" 

 Look in the past publications and see how we viewed different times were are living in. Take for instance, we were taught in the past that those who were around 1914 would see the end, but 11-1-95 WT clarified this. Sad to say several friends have left the truth because of this.

[New World Explorer]

3 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

 Look in the past publications and see how we viewed different times were are living in. Take for instance, we were taught in the past that those who were around 1914 would see the end, but 11-1-95 WT clarified this. Sad to say several friends have left the truth because of this.

Are you saying that we should not pay attention to the current Watchtower publications based on what was published in the past? (Because that's how I understand your comment) 

[Dustparticle]

11 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

Are you saying that we should not pay attention to the current Watchtower publications based on what was published in the past? (Because that's how I understand your comment) 

 My point is stick to the current publications and we should add speculations that can lead to disappointment.