Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Áine]

A cease fire https://news.sky.com/story/iran-trump-us-strikes-israel-tehran-netanyahu-nuclear-fordow-latest-13382979?postid=9780305#liveblog-body

Edited Monday at 10:27 PM by Áine

[New World Explorer]

3 minutes ago, Áine said:

A cease fire https://news.sky.com/story/iran-trump-us-strikes-israel-tehran-netanyahu-nuclear-fordow-latest-13382979?postid=9780305#liveblog-body

If this is true and confirmed later .. I would say “that’s a very sudden and surprising change” Edited: it’s on major outlets like CNN as well … wow. 

Edited Monday at 10:31 PM by New World Explorer

[SteveAus]

20 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

If this is true and confirmed later .. I would say “that’s a very sudden and surprising change” Edited: it’s on major outlets like CNN as well … wow. 

 

 

And Trump posted on Truth Social “God bless Israel, God bless Iran, God bless the Middle East, God bless the United States of America, and GOD BLESS THE WORLD!”
wow, just wow

Edited Monday at 10:50 PM by SteveAus

[Shawnster]

23 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

If this is true and confirmed later .. I would say “that’s a very sudden and surprising change” Edited: it’s on major outlets like CNN as well … wow. 

Sky is a major news outlet too

[Timl1980]

Complete and utter ceasefire announced between Israel and Iran?

 

https://share.google/0Yqb9o0iwyAakcvT6

[SteveAus]

6 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Sky is a major news outlet too

 

It's on all news outlets, Reuters, AP etc. And as I posted above, this part blows me away in his follow up post on Truth Social

“God bless Israel, God bless Iran, God bless the Middle East, God bless the United States of America, and GOD BLESS THE WORLD!”"

Edited Monday at 10:59 PM by SteveAus

[Hope]

54 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

If this is true and confirmed later .. I would say “that’s a very sudden and surprising change” Edited: it’s on major outlets like CNN as well … wow. 

 

Quote from AP:  "The Israeli military declined to comment on Trump's statement. Iranian state media had no word on what response Tehran had to the ceasefire."

 

https://apnews.com/live/iran-israel-war-updates-6-23-2025

 

 

Edited Monday at 11:25 PM by Hope

[Dhanyel]

Aljazeera

LIVE: US President Trump says Israel and Iran agreed to ceasefire

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/6/23/live-iran-vows-to-respond-to-us-attacks-trump-hints-at-regime-change

[Old]

2 hours ago, jdcarlson said:

 

The U.S. had that for many years. Many brothers spent as much as three years in prison over it. We had two brothers in our Congregation why were in prison because of that. My Uncle (live story in December 1, 1992 WT) also went to prison over that.

 

Candidly, I am thankful it is gone. I would not want brothers in the U.S. to have to go through what many of us older ones went through.

 

Thanks,

 

Jim

That wasn't a manditory military requirement. That was dubbed selective servicr and anvolved a selection of draftees based on their classification, 1-A was most eligible, 2-A only slightly less. I was 3-A and was differed due to having dependents.

[Jwanon]

new article

 

https://www.jw.org/en/library/series/more-topics/war-middle-east-bible-say/

[Qapla]

Yes, the US draft was not "mandatory service" as Jerry pointed out above. There were classifications in the draft. Most 18-year-old males in the US were 1-A ... that means they were drafted into the Army. As the numbers went up, the draft eligibility dropped. 4-F was a category of guys who were not drafted due to physical/medical reasons. 4-D was for "ministers". Females were exempt.

 

During the late 1960's and early 1970's most 18-year-old males in the US were drafted and sent to Vietnam unless they could get a "deferment" or reclassified in the "4" category. Some males got a student deferment because they were in college. Others got a hardship deferment due to essential trade or family hardship. This was a time when many young brothers went to jail if they could not get a "deferment" as a conscientious objector or get classified 4-D.

 

All you had to do to get a 4-D was be appointed as a regular pioneer, preferably, before you turned 18 and fill out the required paperwork.

 

This is not hearsay or something I heard about.

 

Some in our congregation were able to get the conscientious objector deferment after multiple hearings before the Draft Board having to defend their beliefs under severe questioning. Some went to jail because they either could not defend the Truth well enough to sound convincing or because they barely went in service.  My brother was able to get the deferment. I was 4-D since I started pioneering when I was 17. I was the only one in our KH to get the 4-D since none of the other young brothers qualified at the time. I never had to appear before the Board, nor did I have to report for a physical examination.

 

Edited yesterday at 12:52 AM by Qapla

[MChill14]

51 minutes ago, Jwanon said:

new article

 

https://www.jw.org/en/library/series/more-topics/war-middle-east-bible-say/

The Faithful Slave is ever reliable. They’re helping us to keep on the watch, stay in tune with what the scriptures are saying, and to keep calm and trust Jehovah. 🙏🙏

[New World Explorer]

8 hours ago, Shawnster said:

Sky is a major news outlet too

Of course my dear friend, I was just seeking more of verification as news these days are all over the places.  

[Percy]

16 hours ago, Dhanyel said:

Nuclear warheads 💣
 
🇷🇺 Russia: 5580
🇺🇸 US: 5044
🇨🇳 China: 500
🇫🇷 France: 290
🇬🇧 UK: 225
🇮🇳 India: 172
🇵🇰 Pakistan: 170
🇮🇱 Israel: 90
🇰🇵 North Korea: 50

Looks like chips in a poker game.

[GoldAussieGirl]

I really don't know what to think about the whole Israel / Iran / US war. I do really hope it leads into world leaders giving their power to the UN.....All in Jehovahs hands. It's definitely getting interesting. 

 

Looks like the ceasefire has already failed 

Edited 22 hours ago by GoldAussieGirl

[jdcarlson]

13 hours ago, Qapla said:

I never had to appear before the Board, nor did I have to report for a physical examination.

 

Your Draft Board apparently paid attention to Selective Service System regulations and direction.

 

I had to do both. They sent me for physical examination and found me "fit as a fiddle and ready to be played."

 

The "local" Draft Board (althogh by then it was 400 miles away) would not recognize my IV-D classification. I requested a personal appearance. They still denied my IV-D classification. There was another brother my same age who had his personal appearance the same day as mine.

 

Both of us had to make written appeal to the Selective Service System. Finally we received our IV-D classification. 

 

Every year after that I had to request a letter from the Society that I was still a pioneer.

 

The III-A classification (student) was a deferral, not an exemption. The deferral meant that one's exposure was extended from age 27 to age 35. The length of extra exposure had no relationship to the time of the deferral. Because of a "paperwork problem" with my "local" Board, I was in class III-A for a few months. That extended my personal exposure from age 27 to age 25.

 

It was intimidating facing the Selective Service System while the U.S. had 400,000+ troops in Viet Nam. When they instituted the "lottery" system based on one's date of birth, my lottery number was 26. I knew if I came off of the pioneer list I would be the 26th person they called.

 

I started pioneering in January, 1962 (the second semester of my senior year of high school). 

 

I got married in August, 1963, and moved to Pensacola.

 

Thankfully, I received a III-C classification for parental exemption before President Nixon announced there would be no more parental exemptions (that happened in January, 1970).

 

Thanks,

 

Jim

[Dark King]

King of the South and King of the North looking at each other 

 

CENTCOM nominee says U.S. must 'pay attention to' collaboration among Iran, Russia, China and North Korea via - https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/live-blog/live-updates-iran-israel-trump-ceasefire-rcna214671/rcrd83509?canonicalCard=true

[Dustparticle]

38 minutes ago, Dark King said:

King of the South and King of the North looking at each other 

 

 Like all nations, they are looking at me. I'm overloaded withe Rutherford's Rainbow books and overloaded with chocolate too. We all on Red Alert. It is all about shifting ones eyes. Who will do it first when starting a war?

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=shifting+on+the+eyes+of+dog+simpons&sca_esv=ccb8066356fd07b7&ei=_c1aaMu7DtuGptQP7Pn0iQE&ved=0ahUKEwiLrpWNuYqOAxVbg4kEHew8PREQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=shifting+on+the+eyes+of+dog+simpons&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiI3NoaWZ0aW5nIG9uIHRoZSBleWVzIG9mIGRvZyBzaW1wb25zMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgQQIRgKMgUQIRifBTIFECEYnwUyBRAhGJ8FMgUQIRifBUiqnQFQ4BFYjZoBcAJ4AJABAJgBf6AB_RKqAQQzLjE5uAEDyAEA-AEBmAIYoAL_E8ICCxAAGLADGKIEGIkFwgILEAAYgAQYsAMYogTCAggQABiwAxjvBcICChAhGKABGMMEGArCAggQIRigARjDBMICBRAhGKABwgIFECEYqwKYAwCIBgGQBgOSBwQ1LjE5oAfKhAGyBwQzLjE5uAf6E8IHBjAuNy4xN8gHXg&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:4e689ee0,vid:T55ArHjeR1c,st:0

 

[Hope]

7 hours ago, GoldAussieGirl said:

I really don't know what to think about the whole Israel / Iran / US war. I do really hope it leads into world leaders giving their power to the UN.....All in Jehovahs hands. It's definitely getting interesting. 

 

Looks like the ceasefire has already failed 

 

Didn't see that coming.. 😕 

[Tortuga]

23 minutes ago, Hope said:

 

Didn't see that coming.. 😕 

You know what they say on the battlefield, "cease fire!"

[Dark King]

Trump is looking for 🌎 peace at the summit 

[Dark King]

Looks like Trump wants real human peace ✌🏾 🕊️ in the Middle East. 

 

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/Gsv0IK7iHmQ?si=4oc70W39twmeYORs

[Dhanyel]

Exclusive: Early US intel assessment suggests strikes on Iran did not destroy nuclear sites, sources say

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites

 

 

Will you try again ? 👀

[Dark King]

6 minutes ago, Dhanyel said:

Exclusive: Early US intel assessment suggests strikes on Iran did not destroy nuclear sites, sources say

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites

I think 🧐 🤔 they just wanted to scare them and start the process of regime change. Regime change is what the world 🌎 wants, not a non-nuclear Iran. I think the world wants Iran to modernise with nuclear power plants and modern civilisation, so they can make more money off the oil and become a large consumer nation.

[Ahuvah]

11 hours ago, GoldAussieGirl said:

I really don't know what to think about the whole Israel / Iran / US war. I do really hope it leads into world leaders giving their power to the UN.....All in Jehovahs hands. It's definitely getting interesting. 

 

Looks like the ceasefire has already failed 

G'day Sis, 

That's what I'm watching for.