Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Julsey]

11 hours ago, Timl1980 said:

I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place to drop this link, but seeing as how this particular aspect now seems to be potentially involved in maybe possibly  bringing about some of these world events, I thought I would add this: 

 

Did you know that the organization was talking about Artificial Intelligence...back in 1988?? (Keep in mind, half the world didn't even have PC's back then!)

 

I had no idea, but here's the article: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101988485?q=artificial+intelligence&p=par

Star Trek was talking about it in 1968! 
The Ultimate Computer

[JennyM]

These peace talks (with no peace) by these nations are like drop of waters. Soon, the real thing will happen. 

 

[Doug]

7 hours ago, Dhanyel said:

It will be interesting if this trilateral meeting between Trump, Putin, and Zelensky takes place; it will attract worldwide attention.

 

If it leads to an agreement, it could even get a comment during the Annual Meeting.

[Áine]

5 hours ago, Sackedbysapp said:

Should this happen before authority is given to the wild beast?

We’ve no reason to think otherwise. 
Have you seen anything to the contrary? 

[Áine]

They’re going for bilateral first Zelenskyy and Putin and then trilateral afterwards to include Trump 

 

The security looks to be boots on the ground and air policing but mostly money from NATO to help the Ukrainian forces train….

 

 They reckon that Ukraine will hand over 21% of their country

 

 We will see. 

Edited Tuesday at 06:40 AM by Áine

[Shawnster]

Thanks. I found an article that mentioned how Trump got Putin on the phone while Zelensky was at the White House and that this was hoped to lead to Putin meeting in person later. 

[Áine]

28 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Thanks. I found an article that mentioned how Trump got Putin on the phone while Zelensky was at the White House and that this was hoped to lead to Putin meeting in person later. 

I think the actual trilateral meeting will be in a few weeks

[cme]

On 6/25/2025 at 7:44 PM, Dhanyel said:

Today I'm having one of those desperate days, waiting for the Kingdom. That feeling of anguish, that deep longing for everything bad to come to an end. I feel heartbroken, I feel sad. How I wish I were already in the New World with my brothers, with all of you... picking strawberries, cooking, singing, building, welcoming resurrected friends, praising Jehovah even more. How much longer will we have to wait?

I love you guys!

Interesting.  I have one of those days today.  Fervent prayer to Jehovah gave me comfort.  Wondering how long now.  It is tiresome and it weighs heavy on our hearts.  Jehovah knows.  He will not let this system go on a minute longer.

 

Hang tight!

[shali]

I have to say, I'm a little astonished at how fast these meetings are happening.  You usually have one meeting and then don't meet again for months.  Trump was able to get all of Europes leaders to the White House with just a couple of days notice (I heard on the news he was calling them from Air Force One right after meeting with Putin).  I guess Trump is serious about wanting to be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

[Mike047]

Of course, you can always Trump others at the Kingdom Hall by the amount you Putin, eh?

[molnarj]

2 hours ago, shali said:

I have to say, I'm a little astonished at how fast these meetings are happening.  You usually have one meeting and then don't meet again for months.  Trump was able to get all of Europes leaders to the White House with just a couple of days notice (I heard on the news he was calling them from Air Force One right after meeting with Putin).  I guess Trump is serious about wanting to be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

At some point in time Jehovah will begin to 'put it into their hearts to carry out his thought'. The Nations, divided as they are, suddenly will speak with one tongue. In a way that even we will be surprised about what is happening. So maybe these are the first signs of that happening?

[Áine]

55 minutes ago, molnarj said:

At some point in time Jehovah will begin to 'put it into their hearts to carry out his thought'. The Nations, divided as they are, suddenly will speak with one tongue. In a way that even we will be surprised about what is happening. So maybe these are the first signs of that happening?

This 💯

[grain of mustard]

On 16/08/2025 at 02:17, lord21 said:

11. Descrevendo o período que antecedeu a Primeira Guerra Mundial , Daniel 11:27, 28 diz que o rei do norte e o rei do sul se sentariam à mesma mesa, falando mentiras. Também diz que o rei do norte acumularia uma grande quantidade de bens. Novamente, foi isso que aconteceu. A Alemanha e a Grã-Bretanha disseram uma à outra que queriam a paz, mas essas declarações provaram ser mentiras quando a guerra eclodiu em 1914. E nas décadas anteriores a 1914, a Alemanha enriqueceu, tornando-se a segunda maior economia do mundo. Então, em cumprimento de Daniel 11:29 e da primeira parte do versículo 30, a Alemanha lutou com o rei do sul, mas foi derrotada.

 

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2020400#h=56

 

Caros editores, tenham cuidado.

Primeiro verifique como os versículos bíblicos são explicados nas publicações e busque informações na Biblioteca Online antes de fazer comentários, especialmente em relação ao cumprimento de certas profecias.

The king of the south and the king of the north today are not the same as they were during World War I or World War II. Back then, they pushed each other and lied to each other. Since it's part of their nature, their hearts, it's to be expected that they continue to push each other today, even if it's disguised as sitting at the same table. I understand that the slave was referring to a specific greeting, but that doesn't mean that greeting is the only one.  

[chuck83]

4 hours ago, Mike047 said:

Of course, you can always Trump others at the Kingdom Hall by the amount you Putin, eh?

If you're Putin 💨 at the Kingdom Hall, it'll Trump my ability to be in-person and will Zoom in! Thank you. 

[Tortuga]

1 hour ago, chuck83 said:

If you're Putin 💨 at the Kingdom Hall, it'll Trump my ability to be in-person and will Zoom in! Thank you. 

Ukraine do that if you want...

[Dark King]

Looking 👀 interesting 🤔 

 

Senior mediator spells out Gaza ceasefire proposal agreed to by Hamas; Israel is yet to respond https://share.google/085cF54yxtVfLPLeO

 

[Dustparticle]

1 hour ago, Dark King said:

Looking 👀 interesting 🤔 

 

Senior mediator spells out Gaza ceasefire proposal agreed to by Hamas; Israel is yet to respond https://share.google/085cF54yxtVfLPLeO

 

DO NOT let these peace agreements fool you and others.

[chuck83]

2 hours ago, Tortuga said:

Ukraine do that if you want...

 

Well I certainly won't be Russian for a seat. 🤣

[Tortuga]

16 minutes ago, chuck83 said:

 

Well I certainly won't be Russian for a seat. 🤣

Seat or bed? I thought you were Himalayan...

[Dages]

10 hours ago, shali said:

I have to say, I'm a little astonished at how fast these meetings are happening.  You usually have one meeting and then don't meet again for months.  Trump was able to get all of Europes leaders to the White House with just a couple of days notice (I heard on the news he was calling them from Air Force One right after meeting with Putin).  I guess Trump is serious about wanting to be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Really a good training for Rev 17:17

[jrnievas]

I think, it's Jehovah maneuvering things right now, to make Peace and Security happen. (Prov. 21:1)

 

When Trump wasn’t assassinated, my “theory” was maybe he has a role to play in the Great Tribulation.

How has he performed, or is performing, on the world stage?

• Trump meets Kim Jong Un in the past

• Just recently, he bombed Iran

• Trump meets Putin again for peace talks

• Trump meets other leaders

What if… through Jehovah’s maneuvering, these peace talks are leading toward what we’ve been waiting for?

[Dages]

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-november-2025/questions-from-readers/

Edited Wednesday at 02:06 AM by Dages

[JennyM]

48 minutes ago, jrnievas said:

I think, it's Jehovah maneuvering things right now, to make Peace and Security happen. (Prov. 21:1)

 

When Trump wasn’t assassinated, my “theory” was maybe he has a role to play in the Great Tribulation.

How has he performed, or is performing, on the world stage?

• Trump meets Kim Jong Un in the past

• Just recently, he bombed Iran

• Trump meets Putin again for peace talks

• Trump meets other leaders

What if… through Jehovah’s maneuvering, these peace talks are leading toward what we’ve been waiting for?

then time's left is reduced.  as @Dages posted. it will come suddenly.. How sudden? Like the covid pandemic, we were lockdown  in just one  day  for almost 3 yrs. 

 

We will be  carrying  our daily lives then suddenly, one day, the end will come. We need to prepare each day and hopefully more people will be warned and listen to good news. 

[jrnievas]

6 minutes ago, JennyM said:

then time's left is reduced.  as @Dages posted. it will come suddenly.. How sudden? Like the covid pandemic, we were lockdown  in just one  day  for almost 3 yrs. 

 

We will be  carrying  our daily lives then suddenly, one day, the end will come. We need to prepare each day and hopefully more people will be warned and listen to good news. 

 

We will soon see in the headlines that religious leaders will participate in Trump’s campaign about Peace and Security. They will stand with this leader to proclaim “Peace and Security.”

 

And as I heard in the convention, the next events that will follow, they will have no control over, because Jehovah is the one maneuvering things.

 

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Lets wait, watch, and see...

 

[ChrisC]

On 8/18/2025 at 4:22 PM, Timl1980 said:

I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place to drop this link, but seeing as how this particular aspect now seems to be potentially involved in maybe possibly  bringing about some of these world events, I thought I would add this: 

 

Did you know that the organization was talking about Artificial Intelligence...back in 1988?? (Keep in mind, half the world didn't even have PC's back then!)

 

I had no idea, but here's the article: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101988485?q=artificial+intelligence&p=par

 

I read in a computer magazine in 1981 that Japan had initiated a plan to crack AI in ten years. So I was expecting a personal robot in the 1990’s! (Also a manned Mars landing.)

 

The future is hard to predict, but we know the important things and what we should be doing - unlike people of the world.