Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Mykyl]

5 hours ago, CHecker said:

This is shocking. Peace is really being pointed to. 

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Yep. “ man made miracle… brings peace to the holy land…. It’s biblical. “ 

 

We shall see I guess. 

[Dustparticle]

 Over 70,000 innocent people have died and many Arabs coming back with nowhere to live, facing illnesses and hunger. This is typical during and after a war.

[Dhanyel]

I’m happy that, while the world is intensely talking about peace and the end of war, our JW website has been challenging the nations on the front page for a few days, showing that true peace and security will come through God’s Kingdom

[Dhanyel]

China detains dozens of underground church pastors in crackdown

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-detains-dozens-underground-church-pastors-crackdown-2025-10-13/

[Friend of Peace]

I would like to ask, what does the “instant destruction” come upon after “peace and security” has been made? Is it upon the people who have said this or upon false religion?

[LeolaRootStew]

9 minutes ago, Friend of Peace said:

I would like to ask, what does the “instant destruction” come upon after “peace and security” has been made? Is it upon the people who have said this or upon false religion?

 

Someone explained it me before that the "sudden destruction" starts with the destruction of BtG to being the GT and ends with the destruction of the rest of Satan's system at Armageddon.

[Dhanyel]

39 minutes ago, Friend of Peace said:

I would like to ask, what does the “instant destruction” come upon after “peace and security” has been made? Is it upon the people who have said this or upon false religion?

It falls upon the entire world system that supports false religion, including its institutions and organizations, starting with Babylon the Great itself.

 

[shali]

I thought it was interesting that there were 25 world leaders or more at this summit and it also included the head of the United Nations and European Counsil.  

[Tronora]

17 hours ago, Friend of Peace said:

I would like to ask, what does the “instant destruction” come upon after “peace and security” has been made? Is it upon the people who have said this or upon false religion?

 

Disclaimer: This is my speculation, not in line with our recent understanding, so I put it in a spoiler 😅

Spoiler

My take: The sudden destruction comes upon Gog of Magog (the coalition trying to wipe out JWs). Why? Zech 2:8 "‘Whoever touches you touches the pupil of my eye." (Calls for a swift response)

 

Okay, I'm probably wrong! See?   & security 

[Dhanyel]

23 minutes ago, Tronora said:

 

Disclaimer: This is my speculation, not in line with our recent understanding, so I put it in a spoiler 😅

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My take: The sudden destruction comes upon Gog of Magog (the coalition trying to wipe out JWs). Why? Zech 2:8 "‘Whoever touches you touches the pupil of my eye." (Calls for a swift response)

 

Okay, I'm probably wrong! See?   & security 

In this case it will be in the last phase of the great tribulation, the first phase is about Babylon the great and her organizations.

[mtpraise]

On 10/7/2025 at 2:15 AM, Shawnster said:

This is a wonderful observation. Thank you. 

I agree

 

[mtpraise]

On 10/9/2025 at 12:40 PM, New World Explorer said:

one proclamation or a series of announcements

That's also a possibility that there might be a proclamation of series of announcements since wars are everywhere and today one proclamation

of  peace and tomorrow another.

[Godskingdomrules]

I feel we are so close, weeks, months, years i don't know. But anything to do with the Israel Gaza conflict, well hamas must disarm and i don't know if that will happen since they are very religious and well as the the most high says man has dominated man to to his injury. We are waiting on what hamas decides to do, and it will surprise me if they will lay down there guns.

President Trump said that hamas must disarm or 'we will disarm them' so  depending on hamas the fighting can still go on.

[undeserved]

6 hours ago, Tronora said:

 

Disclaimer: This is my speculation, not in line with our recent understanding, so I put it in a spoiler 😅

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My take: The sudden destruction comes upon Gog of Magog (the coalition trying to wipe out JWs). Why? Zech 2:8 "‘Whoever touches you touches the pupil of my eye." (Calls for a swift response)

 

Okay, I'm probably wrong! See?   & security 

I tend to agree. Especially considering the context of this QFR not even mentioning 1Thessalonians 5:3.

I SPECULATE that the destruction/fall of BTG isn’t as abrupt/catastrophic as we might have expected before. 
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2025646&srcid=share

[Sofia]

23 hours ago, Friend of Peace said:

what does the “instant destruction” come upon after “peace and security” has been made? Is it upon the people who have said this

The instant destruction comes upon the ones who say “peace and security “ or in another words are feeling really safe and secure.

since the beginning of destruction starts with False religion destruction, the Slave teaches us that it’s possible that the religious leaders join the announcement made. 

[jrnievas]

4 hours ago, mtpraise said:

That's also a possibility that there might be a proclamation of series of announcements since wars are everywhere and today one proclamation

of  peace and tomorrow another.

 

I remember this article, par. 11

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2012681&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=11

 

[Áine]

9 hours ago, undeserved said:

I tend to agree. Especially considering the context of this QFR not even mentioning 1Thessalonians 5:3.

I SPECULATE that the destruction/fall of BTG isn’t as abrupt/catastrophic as we might have expected before. 
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2025646&srcid=share

I’m not sure that’s the case as it says that it will be quick… as a grinding stone pitched into the sea

Rev 21:18 

[onBoard17]

We've been watching the follwing video in light of current events:

 

2018 Annual Meeting: A. Morris "This Is It"

2022 Annual Meeting: G. Jackson "Be Alert, Be Decisive"

2024 Annual Meeting: G. Jackson "Don't Be Suprised by Sudden Changes"

 

Also from the w20 April pg 2, par 2 "Bible prophecies are often best understood when they are undergoing fulfillment or after they have been fulfilled."

[SUNRAY]

14 hours ago, undeserved said:

Especially considering the context of this QFR not even mentioning 1Thessalonians 5:3

True..my thought..but the article does mention 1 Thessalonians 5:6. This QFR is putting more emphasis on Jehovah putting his one thought in the minds of the political leaders than the cry, saying or decloration of 'peace abd security' by political and religious entities.