Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[GodlyDevotion]

Oh dear. This could grow into a long text.
 

One of the talks I am currently working on involves the events that happened in 66 C.E. I only recently realized how strongly Matthew draws parallels between those events and Jesus’ prophecy about the “last days.”

 

In Luke 19, Jesus openly weeps over Jerusalem. He sees the future destruction of the city, and in that moment he pronounces a prophecy against it.

However, just a couple of days later, Jesus was back in Jerusalem with his disciples. He noticed the poor widow contributing her two small coins, and the disciples began marveling at the temple and its beauty.

 

It seems clear that they did not fully grasp what Jesus had meant earlier when the crowds tried to make him king. So Jesus repeated the prophecy again; this time in the temple itself. This leads directly into the scene preserved especially vividly in Matthew 24. However, it seems that the occasion is somewhat different from Matthew’s perspective. 

 

To him, he wrote When Jesus sat on the Mount of Olives, his disciples approached him privately and asked:

 

“Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?” But Luke says, “When will these things actually be, and what will be the sign when these things are to occur.”

 

Here, “when will these things be?” clearly refers to the destruction of Jerusalem.

 

The disciples seem to be trying to understand why Jesus wept over the city, and why he repeated the warning at the temple. They were curious and confused.

 

But then they asked two more questions:

the sign of his presence and the conclusion of the system of things.

 

This is significant.

Jesus’ answer blends the destruction of Jerusalem with the sign of his future presence. Why? Because the disciples asked about both, and Jesus gave an answer that addressed their time and ours.

There are indeed strong parallels between the experience of early Christians and the conditions Jesus said would mark his presence.

 

Here is what I deduced:

 

The “sign” and the “conclusion” appear to be two distinct phases.

 

In Matthew 24:6, Jesus said that “these things” — the signs — must occur, but the end is not yet (Luke 21:9).

If we follow that, then most, if not all, major features of the sign have already appeared.

 

So we are either near the conclusion or in the final part of the sign of Jesus’ presence.

 

Another important detail:

Jesus said that when Jerusalem was surrounded by armies, its desolation was near. That surrounding was the final sealing of the prophecy, marking the beginning of the end for the city.

 

In our time, the proclamation of “peace and security” seems to act as a similar final marker, an event that signals the beginning of the end.

 

My personal opinion — and I acknowledge it could be wrong — is that the proclamation of “peace and security” may overlap with the destruction of Babylon the Great.

 

Here is why:

In 66 C.E., various Jewish factions overthrew the Roman fortresses, killed High Priest Ananias, and drove the Roman governor out of the city.

 

Then the Romans tried to capture Jerusalem not once, but twice. But the days for meting out justice started when they surrounded the nations in 66 C.E. And it triggered the beginning of the end. But the prophecy was fulfilled in 70 C.E.
 

So I think the cry of “peace and security” may be tied to the removal of false religion. And I think the cry of peace could happen in intervals too. I believe a series of peace and security could trigger a final assault on False Religion, which will lead the mission to be finally fulfilled. 

 

Since Jesus’ presence in 1914, we have seen the peace accord with the League of Nations, and the United Nations and countless peace accords. Maybe the finale of that peace and security is the end of the mother of the disgusting things (Babylon the Great) 

 

Again, I know I may be wrong, but I found this comparison interesting and worth exploring as part of my research.
 

Wow. I didn’t know this would be too long 

Edited Thursday at 01:21 PM by GodlyDevotion

[JennyM]

4 hours ago, stargazer said:

The talk about giving "more teeth".

No war no talk about peace... Theyre both relevant .. 

[Percy]

10 hours ago, GodlyDevotion said:

Since Jesus’ presence in 1914, we have seen the peace accord with the League of Nations, and the United Nations and countless peace accords. Maybe the finale of that peace and security is the end of the mother of the disgusting things (Babylon the Great) 

 

Again, I know I may be wrong, but I found this comparison interesting and worth exploring as part of my research.
 

Wow. I didn’t know this would be too long 

Beautiful and insightful.

One brother here mentioned this scripture over the Ukraine and Gaza talks: 

(Daniel 11:27) “As regards these two kings, their heart will be inclined to do what is bad, and they will sit at one table speaking lies to each other. But nothing will succeed, because the end is yet for the time appointed."

 

[Sofia]

21 hours ago, Percy said:

the end is yet for the time appointed."

The “end“ or the “time of the end” starts on verse 40.

that verse 27 was fullfilled decades ago

[Shawnster]

13 minutes ago, Sofia said:

The “end“ or the “time of the end” starts on verse 40.

that verse 27 was fullfilled decades ago

 

Does that verse describe only 1 fulfillment or does it describe a pattern of ongoing fulfillment? 

[Dustparticle]

The reason why I post this so the topic keeps on rolling.

[Dhanyel]

Will the broadcast of the annual meeting be available today? 

[mjcabz]

21 hours ago, Dhanyel said:

Will the broadcast of the annual meeting be available today? 

Gilead Graduation

[Dhanyel]

The Way People Will Be Then

Lovers of others, lovers of spiritual treasures, modest, humble, praisers of God, obedient to parents, thankful, loyal, having great affection for their families, open to agreement, always speaking well of others, self-controlled, mild, lovers of goodness, trustworthy, yielding, lowly in mind, lovers of God rather than lovers of pleasures, motivated by genuine godliness.

[Michał]

Yes, in the Book of Revelationish it is written:

 

Quote

By the time this topic reaches 1000 pages the end will have come. 
 

Therefore post often and encourage one another.

 

I’m coming quickly and bringing chocolate donuts.

 

So, let’s move this topic forward!

 

What kind of recent adjustments (in understanding the Scriptures or organizational) make you realize the end is near?

Edited 20 hours ago by Michał
Grammar

[Dhanyel]

1 hour ago, Michał said:

Yes, in the Book of Revelationish it is written:

 

 

So, let’s move this topic forward!

 

What kind of recent adjustments (in understanding the Scriptures or organizational) make you realize the end is near?

I am amazed by the number of brothers and sisters we have at the assemblies and conventions; there is always a lack of space, and all the events are packed. The mountain of Jehovah's house is very high, and that is incredible. Evidence of the end times, where many will run to the arms of Jehovah. 

[Dhanyel]

Kremlin says no compromise reached during US-Russia talks on Ukraine

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/trump-ukraine-russia-venezuela-12-02-2025

 

 

[Dustparticle]

2 hours ago, Dhanyel said:

Kremlin says no compromise reached during US-Russia talks on Ukraine

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/trump-ukraine-russia-venezuela-12-02-2025

 

 

 

  That is it! We all going to die! Embalm my body with chocolate and cover my body with Judge Rutherford’s Rainbow books. A few The Finished Mystery books will be OK with the Rainbow books. 
 

 I hope I’m not asking much?

Edited 3 hours ago by Dustparticle

[JennyM]

On 11/27/2025 at 9:16 PM, GodlyDevotion said:

Oh dear. This could grow into a long text.
 

One of the talks I am currently working on involves the events that happened in 66 C.E. I only recently realized how strongly Matthew draws parallels between those events and Jesus’ prophecy about the “last days.”

 

In Luke 19, Jesus openly weeps over Jerusalem. He sees the future destruction of the city, and in that moment he pronounces a prophecy against it.

However, just a couple of days later, Jesus was back in Jerusalem with his disciples. He noticed the poor widow contributing her two small coins, and the disciples began marveling at the temple and its beauty.

 

It seems clear that they did not fully grasp what Jesus had meant earlier when the crowds tried to make him king. So Jesus repeated the prophecy again; this time in the temple itself. This leads directly into the scene preserved especially vividly in Matthew 24. However, it seems that the occasion is somewhat different from Matthew’s perspective. 

 

To him, he wrote When Jesus sat on the Mount of Olives, his disciples approached him privately and asked:

 

“Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?” But Luke says, “When will these things actually be, and what will be the sign when these things are to occur.”

 

Here, “when will these things be?” clearly refers to the destruction of Jerusalem.

 

The disciples seem to be trying to understand why Jesus wept over the city, and why he repeated the warning at the temple. They were curious and confused.

 

But then they asked two more questions:

the sign of his presence and the conclusion of the system of things.

 

This is significant.

Jesus’ answer blends the destruction of Jerusalem with the sign of his future presence. Why? Because the disciples asked about both, and Jesus gave an answer that addressed their time and ours.

There are indeed strong parallels between the experience of early Christians and the conditions Jesus said would mark his presence.

 

Here is what I deduced:

 

The “sign” and the “conclusion” appear to be two distinct phases.

 

In Matthew 24:6, Jesus said that “these things” — the signs — must occur, but the end is not yet (Luke 21:9).

If we follow that, then most, if not all, major features of the sign have already appeared.

 

So we are either near the conclusion or in the final part of the sign of Jesus’ presence.

 

Another important detail:

Jesus said that when Jerusalem was surrounded by armies, its desolation was near. That surrounding was the final sealing of the prophecy, marking the beginning of the end for the city.

 

In our time, the proclamation of “peace and security” seems to act as a similar final marker, an event that signals the beginning of the end.

 

My personal opinion — and I acknowledge it could be wrong — is that the proclamation of “peace and security” may overlap with the destruction of Babylon the Great.

 

Here is why:

In 66 C.E., various Jewish factions overthrew the Roman fortresses, killed High Priest Ananias, and drove the Roman governor out of the city.

 

Then the Romans tried to capture Jerusalem not once, but twice. But the days for meting out justice started when they surrounded the nations in 66 C.E. And it triggered the beginning of the end. But the prophecy was fulfilled in 70 C.E.
 

So I think the cry of “peace and security” may be tied to the removal of false religion. And I think the cry of peace could happen in intervals too. I believe a series of peace and security could trigger a final assault on False Religion, which will lead the mission to be finally fulfilled. 

 

Since Jesus’ presence in 1914, we have seen the peace accord with the League of Nations, and the United Nations and countless peace accords. Maybe the finale of that peace and security is the end of the mother of the disgusting things (Babylon the Great) 

 

Again, I know I may be wrong, but I found this comparison interesting and worth exploring as part of my research.
 

Wow. I didn’t know this would be too long 

All I can say is "Come quickly Jesus"... No righteous person like to be here in this system.