Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Doug]

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres' tenure ends December 31, 2026.  About his 10-year appointment, one person said "The former socialist prime minister of Portugal's tenure has been beset with major wars and crises that have led to accusations of bias against him, especially when it comes to Israel".

 

With just over a year to go for the selection of the next Secretary-General, member states have begun to nominate candidates who best fit their national interests.  Sounds like a dis-United Nations, doesn't it?

It's reported that there's an appetite to appoint a woman next time.

 

The election of the next SG is described as a "three-ring circus" of an irrelevant and unmanageable organization.

 

It's rather amazing that this election of a new leader at the UN falls smack-dab in the middle of Trump's second term (Trump could have had two consecutive terms as president without this UN election ever coming up on his watch, but NO, that's not what happened), AND following the new understanding of Rev 17:17.

 

I think we are in for a very interesting year!  

[vern]

5 hours ago, Ali Duce said:

death will no longer have power over God's people.

anointed = after they get their heavenly bodies.

Earthly class need to pass the final test after the 1000 years.

[Sofia]

9 hours ago, Doug said:

It's rather amazing that this election of a new leader at the UN falls smack-dab in the middle of Trump's second term (Trump could have had two consecutive terms as president without this UN election ever coming up on his watch, but NO, that's not what happened), AND following the new understanding of Rev 17:17.

I have realized that as well

thats interesting in deed 😁

[eliakem]

14 hours ago, Ali Duce said:

Hi everyone,

I have a question regarding when exactly death will no longer have power over God's people.

Does this happen as soon as the Great Tribulation starts, or is it only after we enter the New World?

Thanks for your thoughts."

After the thousand year reign of Christ 

[Sun]

Something that is not new but stands out for being simple and also significant is the fact that the king of the North has always agreed that the headquarters of the United Nations should be located in the territory of his arch-enemy, the king of the South, demonstrating the "unity" that exists among the nations to carry out a "single thought."

[Doug]

1 hour ago, Sun said:

Something that is not new but significant is the fact that the king of the North has always agreed that the headquarters of the United Nations should be located in the territory of his arch-enemy, the king of the South

 

  .   .    a perfect scenario to infiltrate , spy,  on one's arch-enemy ??

[Sun]

4 hours ago, Doug said:

 

  ... ¿un escenario perfecto para infiltrarse, espiar, a su archienemigo?

It could also be espionage, but in the end, it is still something that is shaping the pieces that move on the same board. 

[Dhanyel]

Ukraine to share revised peace plan with US on Tuesday, Zelenskiy says

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/zelenskiy-european-leaders-convene-london-amid-us-peace-push-2025-12-08/

 

 

Today ?

Edited 17 hours ago by Dhanyel

[Dolce vita]

51 minutes ago, Dhanyel said:

Ukraine to share revised peace plan with US on Tuesday, Zelenskiy says

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/zelenskiy-european-leaders-convene-london-amid-us-peace-push-2025-12-08/

 

 

Today ?

Today, Dhanyel.

The information was the day before : " LONDON/KYIV, Dec 8 (Reuters) - Ukraine will share a revised peace plan with the U.S. on Tuesday that is aimed at ending Russia's war, after talks in London between President Volodymyr Zelenskiy and the leaders of France, Germany and Britain."

[vern]

The movie is broken and skipping...... need more popcorn....

[New World Explorer]

3 hours ago, Dolce vita said:

Zelenskiy and the leaders of France, Germany and Britain."

UK is strongly allied with France and Germany. 
Is duel ANGLO-AMERICAN WORLD POWER, a thing? Because in my eyes it does not exist anymore 

Unless is a very temporary slump… Possible that identity of KOTS has changed? 

[Shawnster]

1 hour ago, New World Explorer said:

UK is strongly allied with France and Germany. 
Is duel ANGLO-AMERICAN WORLD POWER, a thing? Because in my eyes it does not exist anymore 

Unless is a very temporary slump… Possible that identity of KOTS has changed? 

 

Why do you conclude this? Is there a major world event right now that the US and UK are on opposite sides of. 

 

Why do you mention France and Germany?  Are those countries not also US allies? I'm afraid I don't follow. 

[Dustparticle]

1 hour ago, New World Explorer said:

UK is strongly allied with France and Germany. 
Is duel ANGLO-AMERICAN WORLD POWER, a thing? Because in my eyes it does not exist anymore 

Unless is a very temporary slump… Possible that identity of KOTS has changed? 

 Nothing has changed. Anglo- American Power will last until the end comes. Daniel 2:44

[Dolce vita]

2 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

UK is strongly allied with France and Germany. 
Is duel ANGLO-AMERICAN WORLD POWER, a thing? Because in my eyes it does not exist anymore 

Unless is a very temporary slump… Possible that identity of KOTS has changed? 

A personal opinion : you're right Greg,@New World Explorer. It's true that in France, the GB/Germany/France trio is presented by the media as an indivisible counterweight to the emergence and establishment of far-right regimes and leaders around the world, but this formation is artificial. This trio, presenting a united front, seems to have consolidated since the Russian-Ukrainian conflict. Nevertheless, behind the scenes, nothing has changed, at least for now. Anglo-American power still has the same face, and the King of the North is still not friend with the King of the South, regardless of the honeymoon that their leaders sometimes display.

 

 

[feebee]

3 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

UK is strongly allied with France and Germany. 
Is duel ANGLO-AMERICAN WORLD POWER, a thing? Because in my eyes it does not exist anymore 

Unless is a very temporary slump… Possible that identity of KOTS has changed? 

Maybe being outside of the US we have a different perspective. The US does seem to be isolating itself on the world stage and there are many news articles about the changing order. But we trust the prophecy that the Anglo American World Power will only cease to exist because it's crushed by God's Kingdom.

[New World Explorer]

5 hours ago, Dolce vita said:

A personal opinion : you're right Greg,@New World Explorer. It's true that in France, the GB/Germany/France trio is presented by the media as an indivisible counterweight to the emergence and establishment of far-right regimes and leaders around the world, but this formation is artificial. This trio, presenting a united front, seems to have consolidated since the Russian-Ukrainian conflict. Nevertheless, behind the scenes, nothing has changed, at least for now. Anglo-American power still has the same face, and the King of the North is still not friend with the King of the South, regardless of the honeymoon that their leaders sometimes display.

 

 

Although there is a lot of "noise" about USA and UK recently ... (and looks like USA and UK do not share the same view on Ukraine's conflict) 

Tom Homan, President Donald Trump’s border czar, said he no longer considers the United Kingdom a reliable U.S. ally after reports that it halted the sharing of intelligence on suspected drug-smuggling vessels in the Caribbean over concerns about the legality of recent military strikes.

Homan told reporters when asked about the reports, first published by CNN: "I don't think the UK is a friend to this country and friend of the president. I don't think there's skepticism."

He went on to say, "I'm not in my lane. I'm a border guy, that's a question for Pete Hegseth or the Secretary of State."https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-border-czar-says-uk-not-us-friend-venezuela-11050636

Homan: "I don't think the UK is a friend to this country and friend of the president"

[New World Explorer]

6 hours ago, Shawnster said:

 

Why do you conclude this? Is there a major world event right now that the US and UK are on opposite sides of. 

 

Why do you mention France and Germany?  Are those countries not also US allies? I'm afraid I don't follow. 

Shawn: It seems that USA and UK are not aligned together anymore like before .. just look at differing actions and opinions on how to end the war in Ukraine. 

Also recently published Security official document of White House is closely aligned with Russia , not the UK . 

 Russia has welcomed US President Donald Trump's new National Security Strategy, calling it "largely consistent" with Moscow's vision.https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpvd01g2kwwo

 

So it looks like Trump's administration and KOTN are cozing to each other, while at the same time UK is sticking closer to France and Germany in relation to Ukraine conflict. 

Does UK and USA have the same line of thought in relation to Ukraine, the answer is "No" 

Maybe, technically in principle on paper they are "aligned" but definitely they are drifting apart buddies, when it comes to real decisions and real actions ..

[Doug]

The perception of a nation as an 'ally' is complex. Is the relationship based on formal treaties, economic necessity or shared geopolitical interests (ex: anti-West, anti-Communist).

Also, nations form alliances based on shared threats rather than shared values. The saying goes "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".

 

Nations bound to the KotS by legally binding treaties are:

Canada

UK

France 

Germany

Italy

Poland and 23 other members of the NATO alliance.

 

Asia-Pacific Treaty Allies:

Japan

South Korea

Australia

Philippines

 

Major non-NATO Allies:

Israel

Egypt

Jordan

Brazil

Argentina

 

It's safe to say that the USA has differences of some kind with virtually every ally at some point in time.

 

From what I read about the UK, it's really struggling since BREXIT.  I remember a cousin from Northern Ireland saying they don't need Brussels telling them what they can or can't do.

Today's UK has a high degree of public dissatisfaction and intense pressure on the Labour government to deliver quick results on inflation, NHS and immigration.

As with the USA, voters in the UK shift to the opposition party in hopes of solutions.

 

Despite their problems, however, the UK still has more in common with the USA than any other ally.  KotS !

[New World Explorer]

13 minutes ago, Doug said:

shared threats rather than shared values.

In the security policy document (NSS few days ago) Current US administration identifies Drug Cartels as enemies - not Russia. 

The U.S., which has been an interventionist power globally since the end of the Second World War, is shifting its focus to the Western hemisphere, according to the document — which Peskov noted does not refer to Russia as an adversary, unlike previous iterations.

The document also casts doubt on whether some European nations are reliable long-term members of NATO. The alliance was forged between the U.S. and European nations to counter an expansionist Soviet Union at the end of the 1940s.

 

UK's enemy is Russia.. those two approaches do not align. 

Putin regards the UK as Russia’s most implacable adversary. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/russia-war-putin-war-hybrid-cyber-b2880798.html

 

Allies act together and have same enemy. Something does not add up. 

[Godskingdomrules]

2 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

Although there is a lot of "noise" about USA and UK recently ... (and looks like USA and UK do not share the same view on Ukraine's conflict) 

Tom Homan, President Donald Trump’s border czar, said he no longer considers the United Kingdom a reliable U.S. ally after reports that it halted the sharing of intelligence on suspected drug-smuggling vessels in the Caribbean over concerns about the legality of recent military strikes.

Homan told reporters when asked about the reports, first published by CNN: "I don't think the UK is a friend to this country and friend of the president. I don't think there's skepticism."

He went on to say, "I'm not in my lane. I'm a border guy, that's a question for Pete Hegseth or the Secretary of State."https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-border-czar-says-uk-not-us-friend-venezuela-11050636

I Feel it's only because of the Trump administration that this is the case, i remember his last term he caused a stir with a few country's also trying to withholding money for the United Nations, he does many things that you think how does that fit in with bible prophecy both for and against.

I think once the Trump administration term has ended then everything will more go back to normal with the Uk and allies.

[Osprey]

2 hours ago, Godskingdomrules said:

I think once the Trump administration term has ended then everything will more go back to normal with the Uk and allies.

 

Not if for example someone like JD Vance is elected? Interesting to watch.