Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[LeslieDean]

Thank you. I did set up my AI to reflect clearly ONLY JW publications and official site is to be used--NO SECULAR/OUTSIDE SOURCE TO BE REFERENCED! NO CONTAMINATION! Unfortunately I did not set up only most  recent understandings to be used. 

[Jim Jam]

40 minutes ago, Qapla said:

 

The same sentiments were expressed back in the 1980's about using computers to keep congregation records or Bible publications - even keeping track of time spent in the ministry.

 

More recently, the same sentiments were expressed as to using a Bible on an electronic device. Some even using the expression, "I want to use a real Bible" - meaning a book with paper because they felt using an electronic Bible was not proper.

 

Tools are tools - the tool is not the problem; it is how we use it.

 

Computers simply keep records, they can't make mistakes since the input comes from a human.

 

An AI is different. It can and will give completely wrong answers. 

[LeslieDean]

16 minutes ago, Jim Jam said:

 

Computers simply keep records, they can't make mistakes since the input comes from a human.

 

An AI is different. It can and will give completely wrong answers. 

I don't understand your statement. I hope it is because I'm sick with high fever and flu and not just dumb. Should it read can instead of can't? And second paragraph sounded like sci-fic to me.. sounded like information is installed to actually mislead. Please expound.

[LeolaRootStew]

3 minutes ago, LeslieDean said:

I don't understand your statement. I hope it is because I'm sick with high fever and flu and not just dumb. Should it read can instead of can't? And second paragraph sounded like sci-fic to me.. sounded like information is installed to actually mislead. Please expound.

 

AI is programmed by people to push certain agendas. They don't just grab information dispassionatley from the internet; on some subjects they are designed to lead you to a pre-determined solution while giving the impression they are objective.

[ChrisW]

1 hour ago, Qapla said:

Tools are tools - the tool is not the problem; it is how we use it.

True. If the tool is unreliable then it's use would be limited. 

[dljbsp]

3 hours ago, Shawnster said:

Right now thar is all it is - an overpowered search engine.

 

Currently without all the ads. Your searches aren't being sold to third-party companies. And you don't see any new ads based on your searches. I love it as a search engine.

 

Edited 16 hours ago by dljbsp

[eliakem]

16 hours ago, LeslieDean said:

I will have to stop and let my mind settle. Sometimes the longer I try to sort things out I become more confused. It begins to sound contradictory and I can't separate it. I will look again tomorrow and appreciate your input. 

Please if you want to use  AI, you have to tell it to assume a role or it will give you garbage. E.g Assume the role of a Jehovahs witness ( aske what you want)

[Qapla]

1 hour ago, ChrisW said:

True. If the tool is unreliable then it's use would be limited. 

 

A commonly sold tool is a multi-meter.

 

If someone who doesn't really understand all the features on a multi-meter tries to use one and gets unexpected results - the tool may be determined to be unreliable.

 

However, in the hands of a skilled person, they are incredible tools capable of all sorts of diagnostics.

 

The same holds true of many tools and devices that are used today. Sometimes it could be an unreliable tool but more often it is simply user-error.

[Jim Jam]

1 hour ago, LeslieDean said:

I don't understand your statement. I hope it is because I'm sick with high fever and flu and not just dumb. Should it read can instead of can't? And second paragraph sounded like sci-fic to me.. sounded like information is installed to actually mislead. Please expound.

 

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination_(artificial_intelligence)

[stargazer]

I had to take a second look at the title to see if I were on the right thread.😄

[Sofia]

4 hours ago, Bruceq said:

Gog is the one who fights against Jesus and Jehovah’s people at Armageddon].

Rev. 17:14 These will battle with the Lamb, but because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those with him who are called and chosen and faithful will do so.”

[Doug]

6 hours ago, Bruceq said:

Gog is said to be the leader of the coalition of nations, the King of the North. But they will all apparently work together under the banner of a newly empowered Global Government of the United Nations, United Earth. So, it is possible that the United Nations becomes Gog of Magog since Gog is comprised of the Kings of the North and South

Armageddon is against ALL nations under the banner of the U.N. in conjunction with the unclean inspired expression of the puppet master Satan the Devil. [Verses 44 and 45 of Dan. 11 may be for the U.N. and not just King of the North].

 

 

The recently adopted Pact for the Future is an effort to reorganize and be better prepared for a global crisis.  It gives standing authority to the Secretary-General to convene essential departments (WHO, IMF, WORLD BANK etc) when a crisis meets a specific criteria of a global shock.

 

This reorganization seems to be conducive to the Rev 17:17 prophesy.  When Jehovah gives them his 'one thought', they may think "This is what we voted for. It's time to pull the fire alarm and execute the Emergency Platform".

 

With all that, its remarkable that the UN will have a new Secretary-General in 12 months.  The new guy or gal will be eager to show the world what an effective leader they are!

[feebee]

1 hour ago, Doug said:

 

The recently adopted Pact for the Future is an effort to reorganize and be better prepared for a global crisis.  It gives standing authority to the Secretary-General to convene essential departments (WHO, IMF, WORLD BANK etc) when a crisis meets a specific criteria of a global shock.

 

This reorganization seems to be conducive to the Rev 17:17 prophesy.  When Jehovah gives them his 'one thought', they may think "This is what we voted for. It's time to pull the fire alarm and execute the Emergency Platform".

 

With all that, its remarkable that the UN will have a new Secretary-General in 12 months.  The new guy or gal will be eager to show the world what an effective leader they are!

With all the withdrawing from agreements etc, I'm surprised the US administration hasn't withdrawn from the Pact for the Future. Interesting.

[vern]

AI has no loyalty.  stick to facts.

[chuck83]

2 hours ago, Doug said:

The new guy or gal will be eager to show the world what an effective leader they are!

 

These are the nominations, 50/50 field:

 

Michelle Bachelet (Chile): Former President and UN Human Rights Commissioner.
Rebeca Grynspan (Costa Rica): Head of UNCTAD, former VP.
Rafael Grossi (Argentina): Director General of the IAEA.
David Choquehuanca (Bolivia): Former Foreign Minister, current VP. 

[ChrisW]

7 hours ago, Qapla said:

 

A commonly sold tool is a multi-meter.

 

If someone who doesn't really understand all the features on a multi-meter tries to use one and gets unexpected results - the tool may be determined to be unreliable.

 

However, in the hands of a skilled person, they are incredible tools capable of all sorts of diagnostics.

 

The same holds true of many tools and devices that are used today. Sometimes it could be an unreliable tool but more often it is simply user-error.

So true

[Doug]

4 hours ago, chuck83 said:

 

These are the nominations, 50/50 field:

 

Michelle Bachelet (Chile): Former President and UN Human Rights Commissioner.
Rebeca Grynspan (Costa Rica): Head of UNCTAD, former VP.
Rafael Grossi (Argentina): Director General of the IAEA.
David Choquehuanca (Bolivia): Former Foreign Minister, current VP. 

 

 

Here's how it works:

The Security Council is made up of 5 permanent members with veto power (France, Russia, China, UK, USA) and 10 non-permanent members without veto power.

The 10 non-permanent serve for two years.  Each year 5 of the 10 are rotated out and replaced. So at any given time, 5 members are coming on, while 5 members are mid-term. It's leap-frog. This is an important factor, because the nominees (candidates) will be circulated among the full SC over the months ahead, known as a 'straw poll', to see what the members think.  But, due to the rotation of 5 members, a candidate who looked favorable may suddenly lose favor with the new 5 members taking their places.

 

Any candidate can be vetoed by a permanent member.  Back in 1981, China cast 15 veto's against a third term for Kurt Waldheim.  One might question how a candidate that was already vetoed can be under consideration again, not to mention 15 times.  As we can imagine, there have been tit-for-tat veto's among the 5 permanent members.

 

So, the candidate must have all 5 of the permanent members plus at least 4 of the non-permanent members for a total of 9 out of 15 to be elected.  For the sake of an example:  A candidate may have 14 votes in favor, but it just takes one vote by a permanent member to defeat the candidate.  There have been deadlocks, mainly in 1950 and 1981.

 

It will be interesting to see how early, or late, the next one emerges.